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by **fivecups** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:22 pm

burjennio wrote:It dawned on me while posting in another thread that Hodgson probably didnt have 442 in mind this morning when he thought about how he was gonna set up, but Macheranos stunt kind of forced him into a corner so instead of thrusting Poulsen into a huge game for his prem league debut, when not match fit he went for a 442 with players who were reasonably experienced, and Jovanovic who has played a steady run of games.

You could well be right mate. Thing is, while a 4-5-1 variant was the right decision, I'm not entirely sure it would have made that much difference. Poulsen and Lucas would still have been battered in CM and while Gerrard may have been able to link-up better with the stiker if he was in the hole, it's hard to see us controlling the midfield. City just looked better than us in almost every position. Joe Hart looks in great form as well.

by **sgs** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:30 pm

The only positive from this game IMO is that perhaps, just perhaps it might bring everyone back down to reality...

The squad has only improved marginally, while on the bench we have gone backwards..

by **fivecups** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:31 pm

LFC2007 wrote:We flattered them. The goals were as much to do with our inability to keep the ball and our p!ss poor defending as anything else. All three were easily preventable. In attack, there was enough space there for us to exploit but we didn't make the right choices in our passing or with our runs, particularly first half.

Forced rather than unforced errors led to loss of possession though. They pressed the hell of us, made easier because we played 4-4-2. We only managed 41% possession, poor for a team chasing the game from early on.

by **bunglemark2** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:32 pm

fook me - i went off for an hour, came back, and it looks like all hell has broken loose....
(did yer man kill himself - anyone know ?)
i think i've calmed down a bit....-ish......but a few thoughts spring to mind:
a. 442 : eh, why ? any reason it would work for us and no other team on the planet ?
b. hate to say this, but i think Reina shoulda got the ball before tevez MISSED it and still got credited with the goal
c. agger was stuffed all night, and we could see it right from the start, so why did adam johnson have freedom to torment him all night ? it certainly won't do agger's confidence any good at all.
d. richards was an accident waiting to happen and we didn't capitalise on it.
e. they have a bloody good keeper at the moment, not least because he can keep the likes of given out of the team
f. we don't have a very good squad
and last of all
g. we were heartless and clueless there tonight

by **sgs** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:34 pm

fivecups wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:We flattered them. The goals were as much to do with our inability to keep the ball and our p!ss poor defending as anything else. All three were easily preventable. In attack, there was enough space there for us to exploit but we didn't make the right choices in our passing or with our runs, particularly first half.

Forced rather than unforced errors led to loss of possession though. They pressed the hell of us, made easier because we played 4-4-2. We only managed 41% possession, poor for a team chasing the game from early on.

By far our biggest failure IMO was not the inability to keep possession, but our lack of organization in the non-possession phase.

We had no organization out there...The sight of Ngog chasing around in MF had to be the most pathetic!

by **Lando_Griffin** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:38 pm

mistyred wrote:FACT Rafa spent alot of money on absolute rubbish, Fact he didn't replace Alonso, Fact in nearly 6yrs he has bought ONE world class striker.

How the hell Roy Hodgson is gonna get them out of the defensive drab crappy football Benitez played on a regular basis is beyond me, he will never be given half the money Benitez was, that man has left this team in tatters and then he gets a job at inter he should have gone to Rushden and Diamonds do me a favour.

Carra has no legs anymore,Skertal is good but not great,Johnson is ok, no left back of any note apart from Aurelio.

Kuyt is a load of and should go home to daddy, Lucas is absolute toilet paper (Happy shopper at that).

TBH Roy is gonna have to work wonders and he's gonna need all the help he can get, i for one wish you well cos ur gonna need it son.

Ah, so it's no longer the case that we have the players to challenge?

by **rocky29** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:39 pm

forget about being top four were in the bottom four. Now with have no mash no aqua no joe cole for another two games. And a really tricky tie in turkey with a slender 1-0 lead. Why have we let everything go to the last minute as in loaning and selling players its an absolute shambles.

by **burjennio** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:41 pm

rocky29 wrote:forget about being top four were in the bottom four. Now with have no mash no aqua no joe cole for another two games. And a really tricky tie in turkey with a slender 1-0 lead. Why have we let everything go to the last minute as in loaning and selling players its an absolute shambles.

WE HAVE NO MONEY

by **Dundalk** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:44 pm

Disappointed with the result tonight but as bad as we where City weren't much better.

We had more shots on target and more attempts then them but some of our play was just hopeless. Simple things like first touch and easy passes let us down. Things will get better with time

We move on

by **tubby** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:45 pm

Hang on a minute I thought last season we had the players but they were just not motivated enough.

by **zarababe** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:50 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
mistyred wrote:FACT Rafa spent alot of money on absolute rubbish, Fact he didn't replace Alonso, Fact in nearly 6yrs he has bought ONE world class striker.

How the hell Roy Hodgson is gonna get them out of the defensive drab crappy football Benitez played on a regular basis is beyond me, he will never be given half the money Benitez was, that man has left this team in tatters and then he gets a job at inter he should have gone to Rushden and Diamonds do me a favour.

Carra has no legs anymore,Skertal is good but not great,Johnson is ok, no left back of any note apart from Aurelio.

Kuyt is a load of and should go home to daddy, Lucas is absolute toilet paper (Happy shopper at that).

TBH Roy is gonna have to work wonders and he's gonna need all the help he can get, i for one wish you well cos ur gonna need it son.

Ah, so it's no longer the case that we have the players to challenge?

Mysty you shock me lad.. how can you slate Rafa so much .. really sad to read that.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:51 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
Fauxy wrote:Ciggy and many others should take a leaf out of your book

Im entitled to my opinion am I not, like all this shower on here wanted Rafa out, well Im saying my piece okay.

you're talking out of your ring peice more like. 2 games in and you're shouting "i told you so! I told you so! I told you so!"....dear oh dear

It's not your fault you can't take the truth.

It's not the other dickheads' fault, either.

But the fact remains, we were right and you silly f*ckers were wrong.

by **zarababe** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:52 pm

Dalglish wrote:I see the end of season "doom and gloom" which briefly lifted when Joe Cole signed for us has descended on the fan base again???

What do you expect ? Despite the fact we have got Torres to agree to "Return to work" (and thats all he has done btw) we are still a club under huge transition and I'm sorry to burst some fans bubbles but sadly there are going to be more games like tonight before we turn the corner...............

I took my 6 year old son to his very first game last Thursday and he embraced the club without reservation, recrimination or expectation. For him it was simply the thrill of being there watching his idols.

Some of us have forgotten what it's like to simply do that.

Walk on .............

Jus tell litte Jacob not to grace these pages Ian.. he'll go un-heard like his wise-ol dad.. :no

Hey but I'm listening.. and you are right - we need a lot of fiixing and it has to start in the hierarchy first

by **Lando_Griffin** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:54 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Why hhe f.uck are people blaming the previous manager ?!

For the same reason that their windows are covered in saliva.

by **Fowler_E7** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:56 pm

We look very short of class as a team, and i fear we could be in for a struggle this season. The lact of creative talent is alarming and we dont have any funds to do anything about it. Im hoping for a turn around once Cole, Gerrard and Torres start to click but the squad is far to thin on quality for my likeing.

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