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Postby tubby » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:59 pm

lakes10 wrote:
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bavlondon wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
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Emerald Red wrote:We're lucky to have him here.

I agreed with most of your post but got stuck on this line mate.

to be fair Saint Rafa was a fecking revelation when he first arrived

only in the CL

he did not understand english football or the history of the FA CUP.



AND TO SOME POINT I STILL THINK THASTS TRUE NOW.

That's a bit harsh lakes. Didn't we finish with a record points total in the league last year? And didn't we win the FA Cup a few years ago?

yes mate but what did he go on to do after that....sell the better players and buy player that dont fit into english football.

Well to be fair he had he eye on better players but how many times over the last few years has be been able to get his no 1 targets?

???

If he doesn't get his No. 1 choice, he settles for, errrr, the likes of Voronin ?

Sure as well as...

Pennant for Simao
Skrtel for Vidic
Johnson for Alves.. it's ironic we spent 17mil on Johnno when we only needed 12 for Alves and the owners wouldn't even stump up that at the time

I know Rafa has made some bad buys but he always has to sell to raise money.

59 players Bav............. 59........and we end up with the team we have now, thats got to tell you something mate, come on

And if he was allowed to spend 15-20 mil on a position he wouldn't have to buy cheap which is likely to be hit and miss.
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Postby Greavesie » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:59 pm

s@int wrote:Tactical genius :- We only ever play one formation with one striker, never makes a sub before 60 mins (usually like for like)..... god knows how the opposition know how to set up to draw against us :D

well he could have played N'Gog and.......oh wait  :D
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:59 pm

s@int wrote:god knows how the opposition know how to set up to draw against us :D

So Fowler is an informer now  :D
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Postby account deleted by request » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:02 pm

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bavlondon wrote:How can you say that when we finished 2nd last season and almost won the league? We made real progress last season. We :censored: up this season because we didn't replace the players who left with players of equal or better quality. I just don't see how you can blame Rafa on that. And don't say just Aquilani, there was plenty of other money he should have gotten too but didn't.

I got 4 numbers on the lottery one week.....I didn't get any the week after.

I had 4 once... that's like £35 right? nice!!!!  :p

Although I hope you are not advocating last season was a fluke?

No just that IF you get the momentum going you are always in with a chance. If you p!ss about in pre-season, buy players for important positions that can't play till Christmas, and go into a season with only one decent striker you may be tempting fate a bit.
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Postby bunglemark2 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:06 pm

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bavlondon wrote:How can you say that when we finished 2nd last season and almost won the league? We made real progress last season. We :censored: up this season because we didn't replace the players who left with players of equal or better quality. I just don't see how you can blame Rafa on that. And don't say just Aquilani, there was plenty of other money he should have gotten too but didn't.

I got 4 numbers on the lottery one week.....I didn't get any the week after.

I had 4 once... that's like £35 right? nice!!!!  :p

Although I hope you are not advocating last season was a fluke?

No just that IF you get the momentum going you are always in with a chance. If you p!ss about in pre-season, buy players for important positions that can't play till Christmas, and go into a season with only one decent striker you may be tempting fate a bit.

Well said. Pre-season was a farce. No backup for Torres is a farce. Sheesh, Bellamy was on fire today for Citeh and has been playing like a man possessed all season. Why the fook do we HAVE to play with just ONE up front anyway ? Of course we're gonna be stuffed if Torres gets injured - it's simple fookin' mathematics....
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Postby lakes10 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:07 pm

bavlondon wrote:And if he was allowed to spend 15-20 mil on a position he wouldn't have to buy cheap which is likely to be hit and miss.

we did mate, he spent it on a unfit player, he could have used it on another player that he was after at the same time, but he see spening 20mil on the unfit player.
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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:09 pm

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NANNY RED wrote:i STILL CANT BELIEVE THAT C.OCK AN BULL STORY . THAT Rafa is only gonna use Torres for the Europa cup.

On Thursay night did you not see in the game Fernando must of rubbed his knee about 50 times, Hes kneee was swelled up like a balloon when he came off, I am really angry with that Story YOU HAVE COME UP WITH LAKES ,

i did not, wrong poster Nan I THINK.

i said we will win the EL as he will play his best striker and that he gave him a rest today due to the EL games coming up, i did not say he will only play in the EL.

He never gave him a day off to rest him ,an thats what im angry with Fernando is Injured . fACT .

why else would he be seeing a specialist,  ???

A day out eh on Rafas orders . Have a rest lad but go an see the doc at the same time,
ILL SAY IT AGAIN HE DID NOT REST HIM , HE IS INJURED AND IS SEEING A SPECIALIST,
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Postby dawson99 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:10 pm

Nan, Rafa has fecked up time and time again, when you gonna see it?
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:12 pm

lakes10 wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
bunglemark2 wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Greavesie wrote:
s@int wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:We're lucky to have him here.

I agreed with most of your post but got stuck on this line mate.

to be fair Saint Rafa was a fecking revelation when he first arrived

only in the CL

he did not understand english football or the history of the FA CUP.



AND TO SOME POINT I STILL THINK THASTS TRUE NOW.

That's a bit harsh lakes. Didn't we finish with a record points total in the league last year? And didn't we win the FA Cup a few years ago?

yes mate but what did he go on to do after that....sell the better players and buy player that dont fit into english football.

Well to be fair he had he eye on better players but how many times over the last few years has be been able to get his no 1 targets?

???

If he doesn't get his No. 1 choice, he settles for, errrr, the likes of Voronin ?

Sure as well as...

Pennant for Simao
Skrtel for Vidic
Johnson for Alves.. it's ironic we spent 17mil on Johnno when we only needed 12 for Alves and the owners wouldn't even stump up that at the time

I know Rafa has made some bad buys but he always has to sell to raise money.

59 players Bav............. 59........and we end up with the team we have now, thats got to tell you something mate, come on

59 players which are not bought as filler or first team. Sure some turned out duds, but that's normal for any manager anywhere in any league. Benitez has mostly had to adopt a buy to sell, sell to buy policy. His net spend has been zero in two years since the Yanks gained complete control over this club, and next season he's going to have to sell more player to raise funds? At Liverpool FC, one of the biggest clubs in the world supposedly? Seriously?

Our problems began in the summer when we pushed United to the brink (and should have won it if not for Torres being injured for half the season) within 4 points. It was then the Yanks had the opportunity to capitalize by either investing by strengthening the squad where it was needed by giving the manager the funds to go and get a David Villa, Silva or players of that elk, players which we desperately needed to kick on, but they failed us and the manager. Then was the time to strengthen us, then find a viable buyer on the premise that we were on the verge of pushing for major honours in the coming season to potential buyers by making us look like a decent prospect to buy into due to the overall quality of the squad, which could have been challenging on all competitions if the quality was there. They didn't. Instead they gave the manager f*ck all, forcing Rafa to sell Xabi to Madrid, money which could have been used to strengthen in other areas had they put their hand in their pockets. Most other top sides with smart owners that own a team on the verge, or having just become champions don't sit back while the squad becomes depleted and others around them strengthen. Unfortunately we have owners who do not have a f*cking clue. We either get rid of these parasites or we settle for hoping to challenge for the league once, maybe, in the foreseeable future while they are here.
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Postby dawson99 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:14 pm

Emerald... yet we had the mney to blow on Keane, Johnson, Aquilani, we coudla sold Babel to get funds... we have had so many players that Rafa has just got shot off. Id be scared to give him money meself seeing how he blows it mate... yeah the owners are kunts, but the manager has to take the blame for all of his many many mistakes in the transfer market and on the pitch
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Postby account deleted by request » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:14 pm

dawson99 wrote:Nan, Rafa has fecked up time and time again, when you gonna see it?

She knows it mate, she just won't admit it. The heads nodding while the heart is screaming no.
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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:14 pm

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Emerald Red wrote:Told you all about 5 weeks ago fourth was gone. Probably thought I was talkin balls then too, but even me being the optimist to say that wasn't a clue enough? Some of you still actually thought we'd qualify? We haven't won five on the trot all season. Get some perspective on the reality.

On the game, I can't fault the performance, and you'd either have to be kind of w"nker to say we played bad, or that the team wasn't trying or well capable of winning. Some games in the season you'll get a day like this when a team will just come and park the bus and hope for a draw at best. That's what Fulham did and they got what they were after. MOTM - their keeper. Had a stormer. Says it all.

no mate it dont say it all.


I dont give a :censored: that we looked good, we had a manager they did not put the right team out, it now seems that our best player was not left out due to a bad knee, put your radio put your tv on. it seems Rafa is just resting him for the EL games and sticking two fingers up at the paying liverpool fans.

Rafa is just trying to big up his own profile in the EL, he had a bad bit of press the other weeks a few teams turned their backs on him for talks. if he wins the El HE WILL LOOK GOOD AGAIN.

What the point today of setting a tram out like that, we had the ball all the time.
as i said at half time its like having the best army and not giving them guns.

if you talk about the need to buy players then look at bought the ones that did not get the goals today and would you give him more money just to make the same mistake again.? ??? bloody hope not

There was feck all wrong with the team out today, An yes we did play well. Who got MOTM eh in my eyes it was that Schwatzer so what does that tell you,

and that is outrageous to say that Rafa left Torres out to rest him, His knee was shot to feck on Thursady night . He is injured full stop

And to those who think we lost 4th spot on that result today . Bullsh.it , We have lost fourth spot on not getting enough results away from home ,Full stop

I stiil cant believe that comment on hes resting Torres , So the next time hes gona play then is 22 April. Again bulls.hit

Do you honestly think that Rafa is saying f,uck you to us . YEH RIGHT

stop bullsh.iting - u think torres is not gonna play in Spain? you think hes so serious injured? do u think it is not all over for liv'pool?

its all over mate, live with that or heil rafa

an what the feck are you goin on about ,

I said he is injured and thats why he did not play today , He is not being rested , full stop
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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:18 pm

dawson99 wrote:Nan, Rafa has fecked up time and time again, when you gonna see it?

Daws what was wrong with that team today ,

An dont come back with we never won, That team out there today were morethan capable of beating Fulham,
Im not gonna argue with you about Rafa because its your view and i have mine, so lets respect each others views.
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Postby dawson99 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:19 pm

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dawson99 wrote:Nan, Rafa has fecked up time and time again, when you gonna see it?

Daws what was wrong with that team today ,

An dont come back with we never won, That team out there today were morethan capable of beating Fulham,
Im not gonna argue with you about Rafa because its your view and i have mine, so lets respect each others views.

How many strikers did we have? what changes did Rafa make when he saw they could read our formation like the Beano?
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Postby account deleted by request » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:19 pm

NANNY RED wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Nan, Rafa has fecked up time and time again, when you gonna see it?

Daws what was wrong with that team today ,

An dont come back with we never won, That team out there today were morethan capable of beating Fulham,
Im not gonna argue with you about Rafa because its your view and i have mine, so lets respect each others views.

We didn't have a good striker on Nan...... simple as that. Good goalkeepers save games, good strikers win games.
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