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by **Roger Red Hat** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:52 pm

you've still got a day or so to hand your notice in mate

by **ethanr** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:40 pm

Roger Red Hat wrote:you've still got a day or so to hand your notice in mate

by **devaney** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:21 pm

SouthCoastShankly wrote:So p!ssed off, just had a late business trip confirmed to Chicago. Flight 1615 on Sunday. Aaarrrrgggghhh

You should be alright it's on Sky !!!

by **devaney** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:24 pm

killerp wrote:What happens if the unthinkable occurs and we lose? Remember all those home games this season that we should have won, all those missed penalties. I hope it does not go to penalties.

Behave !!!

by **stmichael** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:57 pm

so what would everyone's starting lineup be then?

had this conversation with a few mates the other day and our starting eleven's were pretty much similar. 4-3-3. the defence picks itself. carroll, suarez and bellamy the front three with gerrard and adam in the centre, the only area of debate was whether spearing or henderson plays as the third man in the midfield three.

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:27 pm

devaney wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:So p!ssed off, just had a late business trip confirmed to Chicago. Flight 1615 on Sunday. Aaarrrrgggghhh

You should be alright it's on Sky !!!

Was that a really lame pun at flying in the Sky?

Otherwise I can tell you first hand that Sky TV do not broadcast to aircraft!! I wish they did.

by **Greavesie** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:02 pm

stmichael wrote:so what would everyone's starting lineup be then?

had this conversation with a few mates the other day and our starting eleven's were pretty much similar. 4-3-3. the defence picks itself. carroll, suarez and bellamy the front three with gerrard and adam in the centre, the only area of debate was whether spearing or henderson plays as the third man in the midfield three.

I think thats what I'd go with, I expect Cardiff to pack the midfield so having Spearing to hassle them and break up play might be the better option, wish Lucas was fit

by **aCe'** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:24 pm

stmichael wrote:so what would everyone's starting lineup be then?

had this conversation with a few mates the other day and our starting eleven's were pretty much similar. 4-3-3. the defence picks itself. carroll, suarez and bellamy the front three with gerrard and adam in the centre, the only area of debate was whether spearing or henderson plays as the third man in the midfield three.

How do you play Suarez, Carroll and Bellamy in a front 3 ?

I cant see us ever doing that tbh and it will most likely either be a 4-4-2 with Suarez and Carroll upfront or a 4-2-3-1 with one of Carroll/Suarez starting.

Personally, I'd bench Carroll for this one. The pace of Bellamy, linkup play of Kuyt and dribbling of Suarez would cause the Cardiff defense plenty of trouble. They dont have the quickest of defenders and I'm sure they'd much rather come up against Carroll than they would Suarez or Bellamy.

Another advantage of going 4-5-1 or 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3- ahead of the usual 4-4-2 is that our right midfield problem wouldnt come into play. Everytime we've played Henderson there he's had a bad game and none of our players seem comfortable playing the role.

I'd go with this.

Reina
Johnson Skrtel Agger Enrique

Spearing Adam

Kuyt Gerrard Bellamy

Suarez

If things arent working out from an attacking standpoint then we can change the game around by bringing on both Carroll AND Downing in a double sub and change to a more direct 4-4-2. Probably at the expense of Kuyt and Adam/Spearing.

No room for sentiments here. The best performers throughout the season for me dont include Carra, Henderson, Downing and Carroll

by **red till i die!!** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:38 pm

id like to see the following.
reina.
johnson skyrtel agger enrique.

adam.
bellamy downing.
gerrard.
carroll suarez.
a front 3 of gerrard carroll and luis with downing and bellamy providing the width.

by **stmichael** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:59 pm

aCe' wrote:How do you play Suarez, Carroll and Bellamy in a front 3 ?

suarez plays wide in a front three for uruguay. against brighton he did most of his best work from wider areas on the pitch. infact he probably pulled out wide more times during that game than any other game i've seen for us. bellamy has played wide for the best part of two years now on occasions, even for city and cardiff, who had chopra and bothroyd upfront.

by **woof woof !** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:46 pm

aCe' wrote:How do you play Suarez, Carroll and Bellamy in a front 3 ?

Not saying we should play 4-3-3, but to try and answer your question how about (off the top of my head).

. Reina

.Johnson Skrtl Agger Enrique

. Henderson Gerrard Adam

. Suarez Carrol Bellamy

No disrespect to Cardiff but I think they'd find it hard to contain that line up.

by **aCe'** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:06 am

I dont think theres any chance we'll ever see Suarez played as a wide player in a significant game. To be honest, its a waste of his talent. Asking our best attacking option to track back and significantly limiting his options in terms of runs/space doesnt make any sense to me.

Regarding what stmichael said about Uruguay, almost everytime I've seen him play for them he's played centrally which I found interesting. Cavani is usually played down the right wing and Forlan usually plays a more withdrawn second striker role. The only side I can see him playing a wide role for without detriment to the defensive side of things is perhaps Barcelona. And even then he'd be asked to press the ball non-stop higher up the pitch which again I'm not sure he'd do.

Regarding Woof's lineup, thats something we've tried more than once this season when Carroll and Suarez have both been on the pitch. On paper you might want to modify it to look like that but in reality what happens is that when the opposition is on the ball, Henderson drifts wider to cover the opposition leftback and we essentially end up with a 4-4-2 with Henderson and Bellamy the wide men.

I have no doubts Bellamy could do a job down the left, he has the work ethic for it and has experience playing the role for multiple clubs like st. mentioned but I dont see us trying Suarez there unless something drastic happens.

That said, I expect all 3 to start against Cardiff but in a 4-4-2.

by **ethanr** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:15 am

red till i die!! wrote:id like to see the following.
reina.
johnson skyrtel agger enrique.

adam.
bellamy downing.
gerrard.
carroll suarez.
a front 3 of gerrard carroll and luis with downing and bellamy providing the width.

That was the exact lineup I was thinking, expect possibly switching Bellamy and Downing from left to right, although either way works for me.

by **fivecups** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:51 am

ethanr wrote:
red till i die!! wrote:id like to see the following.
reina.
johnson skyrtel agger enrique.

adam.
bellamy downing.
gerrard.
carroll suarez.
a front 3 of gerrard carroll and luis with downing and bellamy providing the width.

That was the exact lineup I was thinking, expect possibly switching Bellamy and Downing from left to right, although either way works for me.

Well lads, I think the back five and the front three pick themselves, and I think we'll see a 4-4-2 for sure.

The interesting questions regard the last 3 positions.

RM - Hendo or Kuyt?
LM - Bellamy or Downing?
CM - Spearing or Adam?

None of those are easy. I'd not be too unhappy whatever Kenny decides. My vote would be for Kuyt - he's a big game player and links up well with Johnson. I think Adam just about shades Speaing although we may need someone to tidy up a the back. Adam's a classier player, with a better eye for the pass and better delivery. LM I'll side with Downing, just. He had a good match last week, although was awful against United. I think Bellamy will tire over 90 mins and will be useful as a sub anywhere from 45-60 minutes in if required. There was also some talk of him carrying an injury.

Looking forward to watching a Liverpool final - it's been quite a while!!

by **RedAnt** » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:25 am

Looks like being a nice weekend too

Me happy. Can't wait for this!

I'd certainly include both Carroll and Luis. Bellers on the bench for me. Not gonna be an easy game though, not at all.

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