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bunglemark2 wrote:

Scottbot wrote:Very very disapointed with the performance today even if the result wasn't the end of the world. Roy's new Liverpool (so far) is a carbon copy of Rafa's 2009/10 Liverpool from what I can see.

I thought the personnel, set-up and substitutions were as lacking in ambition, verve or attakcing intent as anything Rafa threw out last time around.

- Didn't understand our midfield four at all. We played with two wreckers (not particularly good ones at that) in the middle with Lucas and Poulsen, the pedestrian Maxi on the right and Jovanovic (our best outfield player today) on the left. We sat VERY deep, invited them to press us, let them get the ball wide, fill the box and put crosses in to Jerome. When we did get it back our midfield were so far away from Gerrard/Torres and we lacked the wide players to carry it. It was obvious I thought?

- Baffled by the lack of substitutions. Rafa took stick for it (and rightly so) but Roy simply sat there and waited......and waited......and waited. Mereiles finally got on in the 75th minute to try and solve our dysfunctional midfield and Agger only came on as a forced substitute. The game finished 0-0 and Babel and Pachecho spent the 90 minutes picking splinters out of their a.s.s. We've got 5 points from 4 games with the mancs at trafford next weekend. Despite Birmingham's impressive home record, I fancy this was a game we should have been trying (a little harder) to win.

- Thank fook Joe Cole is available form here on in coz we desperately need him in the side. Would anyone really (deep down) be that upset if Lucas or Poulsen pulled a hammy (please spare me the usual response to this Benny) and had to sit it out for a few weeks? At least then we could avoid a repeat of these two manning the middle together again this season. They are an inept pairing.

- It's still early and perhaps Hodgson is going down the 'let's be tough to beat first and go from there approach' which I can understand and appreciate but it's got to get better. Hodgson remarked that our passing needs to improve, that our movement needs to get better but that will only happen if you get the right players in there. That means having at least one GENUINE wide player who offers a threat dribbling with the ball and playing someone with GENUINE passing ability and a bit of guille in the midfield two. We had neither today.

Agree with most of that but for a couple of observations.
Cole is not the Messiah. If we can't create a chance without him, we are stuffed. We are not Fulham - this "make sure we are not beaten" attitude does not win you the PL.
Would have loved to see either Pacheco or Babel have a run at Carr - he's not getting any younger and he has a short fuse...

neil wrote:lets face it, last season we would have lost this game.

Scottbot wrote:Very very disapointed with the performance today even if the result wasn't the end of the world. Roy's new Liverpool (so far) is a carbon copy of Rafa's 2009/10 Liverpool from what I can see.

I thought the personnel, set-up and substitutions were as lacking in ambition, verve or attakcing intent as anything Rafa threw out last time around.

- Didn't understand our midfield four at all. We played with two wreckers (not particularly good ones at that) in the middle with Lucas and Poulsen, the pedestrian Maxi on the right and Jovanovic (our best outfield player today) on the left. We sat VERY deep, invited them to press us, let them get the ball wide, fill the box and put crosses in to Jerome. When we did get it back our midfield were so far away from Gerrard/Torres and we lacked the wide players to carry it. It was obvious I thought?

- Baffled by the lack of substitutions. Rafa took stick for it (and rightly so) but Roy simply sat there and waited......and waited......and waited. Mereiles finally got on in the 75th minute to try and solve our dysfunctional midfield and Agger only came on as a forced substitute. The game finished 0-0 and Babel and Pachecho spent the 90 minutes picking splinters out of their a.s.s. We've got 5 points from 4 games with the mancs at trafford next weekend. Despite Birmingham's impressive home record, I fancy this was a game we should have been trying (a little harder) to win.

- Thank fook Joe Cole is available form here on in coz we desperately need him in the side. Would anyone really (deep down) be that upset if Lucas or Poulsen pulled a hammy (please spare me the usual response to this Benny) and had to sit it out for a few weeks? At least then we could avoid a repeat of these two manning the middle together again this season. They are an inept pairing.

- It's still early and perhaps Hodgson is going down the 'let's be tough to beat first and go from there approach' which I can understand and appreciate but it's got to get better. Hodgson remarked that our passing needs to improve, that our movement needs to get better but that will only happen if you get the right players in there. That means having at least one GENUINE wide player who offers a threat dribbling with the ball and playing someone with GENUINE passing ability and a bit of guille in the midfield two. We had neither today.

neil wrote:lets face it, last season we would have lost this game.

Stop talking shi'te you,the only reason we got anything was down to Pepe....the whole team was a mess,it did'nt work from start to finish...and last year is not relevant!

How ya doing anyway babe??  

Number 9 wrote:

neil wrote:lets face it, last season we would have lost this game.

Stop talking shi'te you,the only reason we got anything was down to Pepe....the whole team was a mess,it did'nt work from start to finish...and last year is not relevant!

How ya doing anyway babe??  

neil wrote:lets face it, last season we would have lost this game.

Igor Zidane wrote:

Scottbot wrote:Very very disapointed with the performance today even if the result wasn't the end of the world. Roy's new Liverpool (so far) is a carbon copy of Rafa's 2009/10 Liverpool from what I can see.

I thought the personnel, set-up and substitutions were as lacking in ambition, verve or attakcing intent as anything Rafa threw out last time around.

- Didn't understand our midfield four at all. We played with two wreckers (not particularly good ones at that) in the middle with Lucas and Poulsen, the pedestrian Maxi on the right and Jovanovic (our best outfield player today) on the left. We sat VERY deep, invited them to press us, let them get the ball wide, fill the box and put crosses in to Jerome. When we did get it back our midfield were so far away from Gerrard/Torres and we lacked the wide players to carry it. It was obvious I thought?

- Baffled by the lack of substitutions. Rafa took stick for it (and rightly so) but Roy simply sat there and waited......and waited......and waited. Mereiles finally got on in the 75th minute to try and solve our dysfunctional midfield and Agger only came on as a forced substitute. The game finished 0-0 and Babel and Pachecho spent the 90 minutes picking splinters out of their a.s.s. We've got 5 points from 4 games with the mancs at trafford next weekend. Despite Birmingham's impressive home record, I fancy this was a game we should have been trying (a little harder) to win.

- Thank fook Joe Cole is available form here on in coz we desperately need him in the side. Would anyone really (deep down) be that upset if Lucas or Poulsen pulled a hammy (please spare me the usual response to this Benny) and had to sit it out for a few weeks? At least then we could avoid a repeat of these two manning the middle together again this season. They are an inept pairing.

- It's still early and perhaps Hodgson is going down the 'let's be tough to beat first and go from there approach' which I can understand and appreciate but it's got to get better. Hodgson remarked that our passing needs to improve, that our movement needs to get better but that will only happen if you get the right players in there. That means having at least one GENUINE wide player who offers a threat dribbling with the ball and playing someone with GENUINE passing ability and a bit of guille in the midfield two. We had neither today.

Spot on that scott,be careful though mate .You might be accused of wanting Roy sacked

Scottbot wrote:

Igor Zidane wrote:

Scottbot wrote:Very very disapointed with the performance today even if the result wasn't the end of the world. Roy's new Liverpool (so far) is a carbon copy of Rafa's 2009/10 Liverpool from what I can see.

I thought the personnel, set-up and substitutions were as lacking in ambition, verve or attakcing intent as anything Rafa threw out last time around.

- Didn't understand our midfield four at all. We played with two wreckers (not particularly good ones at that) in the middle with Lucas and Poulsen, the pedestrian Maxi on the right and Jovanovic (our best outfield player today) on the left. We sat VERY deep, invited them to press us, let them get the ball wide, fill the box and put crosses in to Jerome. When we did get it back our midfield were so far away from Gerrard/Torres and we lacked the wide players to carry it. It was obvious I thought?

- Baffled by the lack of substitutions. Rafa took stick for it (and rightly so) but Roy simply sat there and waited......and waited......and waited. Mereiles finally got on in the 75th minute to try and solve our dysfunctional midfield and Agger only came on as a forced substitute. The game finished 0-0 and Babel and Pachecho spent the 90 minutes picking splinters out of their a.s.s. We've got 5 points from 4 games with the mancs at trafford next weekend. Despite Birmingham's impressive home record, I fancy this was a game we should have been trying (a little harder) to win.

- Thank fook Joe Cole is available form here on in coz we desperately need him in the side. Would anyone really (deep down) be that upset if Lucas or Poulsen pulled a hammy (please spare me the usual response to this Benny) and had to sit it out for a few weeks? At least then we could avoid a repeat of these two manning the middle together again this season. They are an inept pairing.

- It's still early and perhaps Hodgson is going down the 'let's be tough to beat first and go from there approach' which I can understand and appreciate but it's got to get better. Hodgson remarked that our passing needs to improve, that our movement needs to get better but that will only happen if you get the right players in there. That means having at least one GENUINE wide player who offers a threat dribbling with the ball and playing someone with GENUINE passing ability and a bit of guille in the midfield two. We had neither today.

Spot on that scott,be careful though mate .You might be accused of wanting Roy sacked

Still early doors mate and like I said, perhaps Roy is looking to get us solid defensively first  (although I don't think we were solid today, far from it) before adding a bit of adventure to the side. I wanna see a bit of adventure in the side. It seems like it's been a such a long time since we've seen any.

Emerald Red wrote:

neil wrote:lets face it, last season we would have lost this game.

Let's fact it - we drew this game last season.

Ciggy wrote: Roy: "My expectations were not that high anyway. It would have been disappointing to lose but I'm not that disappointed to draw.''

Seriously WTF?

Ciggy wrote: Roy: "My expectations were not that high anyway. It would have been disappointing to lose but I'm not that disappointed to draw.''

Seriously WTF?

Igor Zidane wrote:The midfield will be much better once mereiles is played . We can't go on playing poulson and Lucas together. He will change that atleast.