Youth development.... - reserve/youth team discussion

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Postby metalhead » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:45 pm

I watched LFC reserve vs NUFC reserve today on LFC TV(rerun), and I was impressed with some youngsters. Insua had a very good game, I would give him MOTM. That Nemeth looked really lively, especially his passes and he takes a defender with him to create some space. Brower, whats his name, big strong person, but I don't think he is good enough, has really poor first touch and squandered so many chances. Plessis looked ok, his passes are great but lazy at times, he can't be a*sed to follow the player to make the tackle. I would say Flynn is a workhorse, loses the ball but ends up getting it back, He just doesn't stop running.

Insua should start pushing for a first team place, he looks very consistant.
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Postby JoeTerp » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:28 pm

Insua played great was unlucky to score, in fact to get more attacking, they subbed off the LM to put on a RB in order for Insua to play higher up the pitch.  Brouwer is TERRIBLE and needs to go, I don't understand why he plays so much.  He has some use as a target man, but not much because he is useless in front of goal.  Was shocked that Nemeth didn't score, but based on his history, it seems like he was just unlucky, very unlucky.

Flynn was playing somewhat out of position because Spearing is out, although he is more than capable of playing central, when he usually plays for the reserves, its out wide.

Crowther the new 19 year old from stockport isn't up to the task either, luckily we have amoo moving up next year and Anderson maybe returning from his loan.
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Postby username » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:44 pm

nemeth highlights from the match http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4fh1w_mth-bacod_sport

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Postby Phil (moaning twat) » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:41 pm

get that nemeth in your team rafa, cant be worse than what you have now

got high hopes for panchencho, pinocchio, pacencho, whatever... an all, we've got some good kids in our youth these days i tell ya
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Postby hello_red » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:49 pm

Nemeth looks quality! I sometimes watch the reswerves on LFC TV and he does shine through. As someone said before the reserve league isnt great quality wise but if you look at what Nemeth does with the ball he looks quality either way.

I think he should be given a chance alongside Torres or Babel as I think he would be superb.

Havnt seen much of Patheco so cant comment but I do wanna Nemeth given a chance alongside Torres.
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Postby metalhead » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:34 pm

JoeTerp wrote:Insua played great was unlucky to score, in fact to get more attacking, they subbed off the LM to put on a RB in order for Insua to play higher up the pitch.  Brouwer is TERRIBLE and needs to go, I don't understand why he plays so much.  He has some use as a target man, but not much because he is useless in front of goal.  Was shocked that Nemeth didn't score, but based on his history, it seems like he was just unlucky, very unlucky.

Flynn was playing somewhat out of position because Spearing is out, although he is more than capable of playing central, when he usually plays for the reserves, its out wide.

Crowther the new 19 year old from stockport isn't up to the task either, luckily we have amoo moving up next year and Anderson maybe returning from his loan.

Yeh Brouwer should be dropped, I would like to see more of Gerard Bruna, there was this attack when he just dribbled past all the defenders but ended up losing the ball because of his decision making. If he can work on his decision making I think he can be a very good player for us.

Mikel Jan Jose is also another player to watch.
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Postby Torres25 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:47 pm

Daniel Pacheco
Elimano Insua
Gerardo Bruna
Mikel San Jose
Nemeth & Simmons
Ardjarevic
Nathan Eccelson
Marvin Pourie
David Amoo
Dean Bouzanis
Jay Spearing
Damien Plessis
Ronald Huth
Robeto Ayala
Martin Kelly

the futures bright, the futures Red :blues:
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Postby god_bless_john_houlding » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:51 pm

Add to that list, the youngsters already in the side, who'll help these kids settle in. Agger, Arbeloa, Mascheranho, Babel and Lucas. These 5, (7 if you include Reina and Skrtel) will be the spine of our side for a few good years, and it'll make bringing the kids in a little easier.
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Postby Torres25 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:51 pm

i read in afew internet articles afew months ago that were after this other spanish starlet whos the same age as pachecho & bruna

apparently hes thought of just as highly if not more.......i think were in the driving seat 2 sign him coz hes best m8s with both pachecho & bruna.......................he was mentioned on this forum aswell so if any1 could help me out with his name

i was talkin 2 my bro about him watchin the reserves & sayin imagine if they all came into the first time round 20 all potential world class all best m8s played together 4 years all attackin.......................we could call em the three amigos

just gettin that in stakin my claim 4 thier nicknames early :D

if it came true *drool* happy days

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Postby Torres25 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:55 pm

exactly GBJH thats why i have so much faith in Rafa & whenever people shout about what wengers done with his youth system i bring it up............theyll be comin through when the staduims up & runnin hopefully..thats when the revoloutin will trully start 4 me

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Postby god_bless_john_houlding » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:01 pm

Torres25 wrote:exactly GBJH thats why i have so much faith in Rafa & whenever people shout about what wengers done with his youth system i bring it up............theyll be comin through when the staduims up & runnin hopefully..thats when the revoloutin will trully start 4 me

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Problem is mate, we've been waiting to long to wait another 2/3 maybe even four years for these lads to break through. We need the success to start from next season.

I'm starting to firmly believe Benitez will be there next year, but if the form is anywhere near as bad as this year's he won't get that chance to bring these lads through. It needs to be between now and next season for Benitez and his youngsters to perform. Bring one or two into the starting 11 next year, who knows we could save ourselves a fortune. Rather than spend close to 10 million on Bridge, when we MAY have a much better player in Insua. Gotta give them a go, only way you'll find out if they're good enough.
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Postby Torres25 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:36 pm

i agree i think rafas gotta give Insua the chance 2 make LB his own next year

i think we can wait afew years 4 the 1s mentioned above aslong as we build on r first team aswell

but i do think are youth system has come along way in the last few years under rafa
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Postby JoeTerp » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:04 am

Torres25 wrote:i read in afew internet articles afew months ago that were after this other spanish starlet whos the same age as pachecho & bruna

apparently hes thought of just as highly if not more.......i think were in the driving seat 2 sign him coz hes best m8s with both pachecho & bruna.......................he was mentioned on this forum aswell so if any1 could help me out with his name

i was talkin 2 my bro about him watchin the reserves & sayin imagine if they all came into the first time round 20 all potential world class all best m8s played together 4 years all attackin.......................we could call em the three amigos

just gettin that in stakin my claim 4 thier nicknames early :D

if it came true *drool* happy days

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It wasn't Bojan wasn it? he is clearly a class above them despite being the same age. Spain is trying to cap him at the senior level already because he could also play for where his father was from can't remember where at the moment I think its Eastern Europe
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Postby JoeTerp » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:11 am

Torres25 wrote:Daniel Pacheco
Elimano Insua
Gerardo Bruna
Mikel San Jose
Nemeth & Simmons
Ardjarevic
Nathan Eccelson
Marvin Pourie
David Amoo
Dean Bouzanis
Jay Spearing
Damien Plessis
Ronald Huth
Robeto Ayala
Martin Kelly

the futures bright, the futures Red :blues:

Its Nemeth and Simon (and Simon has mostly been hurt so its too early for him on this list

Its spelt Astrit Ajdarevic

and its Daniel or Dani Ayala and he is too young and don't think he has played enough to tell if he should be on the list, same with Martin Kelly

Also don't forget about Hammill, Anderson, Guthrie, Antwi, and possibly Lindfield who can't stop scoring when he wears a red shirt but from what I have read hasn't impressed much on his loan spells.  but he is a POACHER and I don't see why he shouldn't be given a run out before selling him out, he has a knack for scoring so why not trying Craig Lindfield out?


But Brouwer NEEDS to go, he sucks and is wasting time in our system, same is prolly true for Leto, El Zhar, Crowther, and sadly Flynn and Putterill (even though the latter two play well, it seems like they have plateued)
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Postby JC_81 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:03 pm

I agree that Rafa has done a lot of work behind the scenes in recruiting young talent and it would be a shame for him not to see the fruits of that if he is sacked in the summer.  However, even if these players come through, that is no guarantee that we'd do better in the Premiership, because imo the problem lies with Benitez's tactics and rotation policy in the Premiership, moreso than a lack of quality in our 1st team.  I think United and Arsenal have better players than us, but with the squad we have we should still be a lot closer to them in the league and we should be ahead of Chelsea.  But that is for another thread.

On the subject of youth, I think we have some very good prospects.  I think Hobbs will come good and will provide CB cover next season.  Nemeth looks like a potential star to me.  Great eye for goal and some of his touches and movement really make him stand out at reserve level, I have high hopes he'll make the step up and I'd like him to get a chance in the 1st team sooner rather than later.  Insua is the other one who looks like he could play at a higher level.

In the youth team, Pourie looks like the star man, scores for fun.  Ajdarevic and Mackay-Steven also look like they've got potential, but to be honest judging how the youth players will develop is even harder than the current reserve guys.

Guys that I don't rate in the reserves include Leto and El Zhar.  Putterill and Spearing have the heart but not the skill to match it, they won't be LFC players.  I have yet to be convinced by any of the keepers who have turned out for our reserves this season and none of the defenders apart from Hobbs and Insua look like they'll make the step up to me.
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