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Postby JBG » Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:27 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:This thread is a fuc.king joke, how can you people wish injuries on another player ?

This should be closed.

At last, a bit of sense.

Who wants a player's career to be ended? You only need to hear the stories of the personal problems David Speedie and Neil Webb had when their careers finished through injury, or worse again, Paul McGrath. Both Speedie and McGrath have descended into alcoholism as they cannot cope with being out of football and Webb ended up going from being the darling of Old Trafford to a postman who beat his wife.

The proper way to deal with Essien and the like is to hit him with lengthy bans, not have him chopped down and have his career ruined.
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Postby JC_81 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:09 pm

JBG wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:This thread is a fuc.king joke, how can you people wish injuries on another player ?

This should be closed.

At last, a bit of sense.

Who wants a player's career to be ended? You only need to hear the stories of the personal problems David Speedie and Neil Webb had when their careers finished through injury, or worse again, Paul McGrath. Both Speedie and McGrath have descended into alcoholism as they cannot cope with being out of football and Webb ended up going from being the darling of Old Trafford to a postman who beat his wife.

The proper way to deal with Essien and the like is to hit him with lengthy bans, not have him chopped down and have his career ruined.

I'm not saying I want the guy's career to be ended, but maybe if he gets snapped and spends a month or so injured he will think twice before he does the same to someone else.  And maybe Mourinho will think twice about deploying him specifically to do that to players.

It's all very well taking the moral high ground here JBG, but Essien deserved what he got, there is absolutely no doubt about that and I can't believe people are actually defending him after the horror challenges he's made this season.  Reo Coker's challenge looked bad, but you could also see he was late genuinely trying to play the ball, the same could not be said of Essien Vs Lauren, Essien Vs Ben Haim and Essien Vs Hamann.

I don't encourage bad challenges on players that are intended to inflict injury.  The fact is that Reo-Coker's wasn't.  But he happened to catch the man who above anyone in football at the moment deserved to be on the receiving end.
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:56 pm

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JBG wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:This thread is a fuc.king joke, how can you people wish injuries on another player ?

This should be closed.

At last, a bit of sense.

Who wants a player's career to be ended? You only need to hear the stories of the personal problems David Speedie and Neil Webb had when their careers finished through injury, or worse again, Paul McGrath. Both Speedie and McGrath have descended into alcoholism as they cannot cope with being out of football and Webb ended up going from being the darling of Old Trafford to a postman who beat his wife.

The proper way to deal with Essien and the like is to hit him with lengthy bans, not have him chopped down and have his career ruined.

I'm not saying I want the guy's career to be ended, but maybe if he gets snapped and spends a month or so injured he will think twice before he does the same to someone else.  And maybe Mourinho will think twice about deploying him specifically to do that to players.

It's all very well taking the moral high ground here JBG, but Essien deserved what he got, there is absolutely no doubt about that and I can't believe people are actually defending him after the horror challenges he's made this season.  Reo Coker's challenge looked bad, but you could also see he was late genuinely trying to play the ball, the same could not be said of Essien Vs Lauren, Essien Vs Ben Haim and Essien Vs Hamann.

I don't encourage bad challenges on players that are intended to inflict injury.  The fact is that Reo-Coker's wasn't.  But he happened to catch the man who above anyone in football at the moment deserved to be on the receiving end.

What are you smoking?

Two wrongs dont make a right, he needs educating in the English game, not subjecting to horror challenges until he stops.

If Re-Coker had done that to Stevie G, you would not be calling him a hero.

This thread is ludicrous, and people applauding Reo-Coker are clueless.
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Postby JC_81 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:12 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
john craig wrote:
JBG wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:This thread is a fuc.king joke, how can you people wish injuries on another player ?

This should be closed.

At last, a bit of sense.

Who wants a player's career to be ended? You only need to hear the stories of the personal problems David Speedie and Neil Webb had when their careers finished through injury, or worse again, Paul McGrath. Both Speedie and McGrath have descended into alcoholism as they cannot cope with being out of football and Webb ended up going from being the darling of Old Trafford to a postman who beat his wife.

The proper way to deal with Essien and the like is to hit him with lengthy bans, not have him chopped down and have his career ruined.

I'm not saying I want the guy's career to be ended, but maybe if he gets snapped and spends a month or so injured he will think twice before he does the same to someone else.  And maybe Mourinho will think twice about deploying him specifically to do that to players.

It's all very well taking the moral high ground here JBG, but Essien deserved what he got, there is absolutely no doubt about that and I can't believe people are actually defending him after the horror challenges he's made this season.  Reo Coker's challenge looked bad, but you could also see he was late genuinely trying to play the ball, the same could not be said of Essien Vs Lauren, Essien Vs Ben Haim and Essien Vs Hamann.

I don't encourage bad challenges on players that are intended to inflict injury.  The fact is that Reo-Coker's wasn't.  But he happened to catch the man who above anyone in football at the moment deserved to be on the receiving end.

What are you smoking?

Two wrongs dont make a right, he needs educating in the English game, not subjecting to horror challenges until he stops.

If Re-Coker had done that to Stevie G, you would not be calling him a hero.

This thread is ludicrous, and people applauding Reo-Coker are clueless.

You're completely missing the point here Leon.

Reo-Coker didn't intentionally do that to Essien so it's not a case of 2 wrongs, you could see he was stretching before the ball but Essien got there first.  If Reo-Coker did that to Gerrard, then yes I'd be frustrated if it injured him, but not angry at Reo-Coker because I don't believe he meant it.  And when did I call him a hero?

My point is that Essien has got away with a string of challenges where he made no effort to play the ball and he knew exactly what he was doing.  Am I supposed to now sympathise with Essien?  Wise up mate, maybe Essien won't be so quick to snap other people now.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:12 pm

JBG wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:This thread is a fuc.king joke, how can you people wish injuries on another player ?

This should be closed.

At last, a bit of sense.

Who wants a player's career to be ended? You only need to hear the stories of the personal problems David Speedie and Neil Webb had when their careers finished through injury, or worse again, Paul McGrath. Both Speedie and McGrath have descended into alcoholism as they cannot cope with being out of football and Webb ended up going from being the darling of Old Trafford to a postman who beat his wife.

The proper way to deal with Essien and the like is to hit him with lengthy bans, not have him chopped down and have his career ruined.

wasnt magrath an alky when he was still playing? i know he had a lengthy career even though he had injuries and the drink problem.


just a question, does anone know whay happened to wayne harrison, the lad we signed from oldham who then got injured?


on the essien front, its not right to wish injuries but i can see why people are pleased that he has been on the recieving end, with the way he plays he was always going to get done at some point but that doesnt make it right, but its understandable
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Postby JBG » Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:54 pm

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JBG wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:This thread is a fuc.king joke, how can you people wish injuries on another player ?

This should be closed.

At last, a bit of sense.

Who wants a player's career to be ended? You only need to hear the stories of the personal problems David Speedie and Neil Webb had when their careers finished through injury, or worse again, Paul McGrath. Both Speedie and McGrath have descended into alcoholism as they cannot cope with being out of football and Webb ended up going from being the darling of Old Trafford to a postman who beat his wife.

The proper way to deal with Essien and the like is to hit him with lengthy bans, not have him chopped down and have his career ruined.

wasnt magrath an alky when he was still playing? i know he had a lengthy career even though he had injuries and the drink problem.


just a question, does anone know whay happened to wayne harrison, the lad we signed from oldham who then got injured?


on the essien front, its not right to wish injuries but i can see why people are pleased that he has been on the recieving end, with the way he plays he was always going to get done at some point but that doesnt make it right, but its understandable

Yes, McGrath was an alcoholic when he played, but he got much worse when he retired, saying that he couldn't cope without being in football.

My point is that you cannot wish anyone's livelihood to be taken away. I'm not defending Essien, just saying that he should be dealt with by the authorities, not by a wild tackle.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:07 pm

i'm sorry but if essien was playing when the likes of tommy smith was playing he wouldn't be aloud to play the way he does ,he would have been sorted straight away no messin around,footballs a hard game ,but not for cowards ,he got what he deserves and he may think twice agout doing it in future imho
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:22 pm

Sean wrote:How long will Essien be out for ?

Not long enough.

Personally I am glad the cheating b*stard has been crocked for a few weeks. He has been aloud to intentionally chop numerous players this season and get away with it (on the pitch, at least).

He's got a lot to answer for, and hopefully the dirty c*nt will sit back and reflect on his past indescretions before he either ends someones career, or gets a right f*cking-up by a true hardman of the game.

The blokes a coward. He hides behind his club and it's mouthpiece Moris, and knows that he can do virtually anything on the pitch because his sugar-daddy Roman can buy his way out of trouble.

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Postby 115-1073096938 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:35 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:
john craig wrote:
JBG wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:This thread is a fuc.king joke, how can you people wish injuries on another player ?

This should be closed.

At last, a bit of sense.

Who wants a player's career to be ended? You only need to hear the stories of the personal problems David Speedie and Neil Webb had when their careers finished through injury, or worse again, Paul McGrath. Both Speedie and McGrath have descended into alcoholism as they cannot cope with being out of football and Webb ended up going from being the darling of Old Trafford to a postman who beat his wife.

The proper way to deal with Essien and the like is to hit him with lengthy bans, not have him chopped down and have his career ruined.

I'm not saying I want the guy's career to be ended, but maybe if he gets snapped and spends a month or so injured he will think twice before he does the same to someone else.  And maybe Mourinho will think twice about deploying him specifically to do that to players.

It's all very well taking the moral high ground here JBG, but Essien deserved what he got, there is absolutely no doubt about that and I can't believe people are actually defending him after the horror challenges he's made this season.  Reo Coker's challenge looked bad, but you could also see he was late genuinely trying to play the ball, the same could not be said of Essien Vs Lauren, Essien Vs Ben Haim and Essien Vs Hamann.

I don't encourage bad challenges on players that are intended to inflict injury.  The fact is that Reo-Coker's wasn't.  But he happened to catch the man who above anyone in football at the moment deserved to be on the receiving end.

What are you smoking?

Two wrongs dont make a right, he needs educating in the English game, not subjecting to horror challenges until he stops.

If Re-Coker had done that to Stevie G, you would not be calling him a hero.

This thread is ludicrous, and people applauding Reo-Coker are clueless.

People applauding Reo-Coker aren't clueless at all.

They are people who believe in justice and the saying what goes around comes around.

I am quite frankly amused at this pathetic, politically correct attitude towards everything that this country is TRYING to get across. Its complete and utter :censored:.

People deserve to be treated how they treat others. I would expect someone to be happy and poilte with me if i'd punched them in the face. On the other hand i wouldn't expect someone to punch me in the face because i've smiled at them.

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Postby shanks » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:38 pm

nice 1` good to see some 1 getting what they deserve,   what you are saying stu_the_red is treat people how you want to be treated, yes i agree with that  :Oo:
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Postby supersub » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:48 pm

JBG wrote:I'm not defending Essien, just saying that he should be dealt with by the authorities, not by a wild tackle.

Hardly think Reo-Cocker had it in his mind to hand out a punishment.I can only assume he attempted to win the ball but Essien was a tad to early to the ball ,for once,and got caught.In my eyes a complete accident but obviously in the eyes of Moanio,who for once was watching,a foul.These things happen and I won't shed a tear for Essien.
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Postby mighty mo » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:08 pm

JBG wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:This thread is a fuc.king joke, how can you people wish injuries on another player ?

This should be closed.

At last, a bit of sense.

Who wants a player's career to be ended? You only need to hear the stories of the personal problems David Speedie and Neil Webb had when their careers finished through injury, or worse again, Paul McGrath. Both Speedie and McGrath have descended into alcoholism as they cannot cope with being out of football and Webb ended up going from being the darling of Old Trafford to a postman who beat his wife.

The proper way to deal with Essien and the like is to hit him with lengthy bans, not have him chopped down and have his career ruined.

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Postby seani.g » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:09 pm

well in supersub its really a case of essien getting his comeupance and his career is not over.
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Postby tubby » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:43 pm

Nice one Reo Coker although its very bad, but it was a good challenge. lol
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