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Postby In and Out » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:52 pm

Ive a feeling there will be more smiles on the field and around training, different vibe all round with a new regime installed and we will see the benefits in results in the coming weeks.


Agreed
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Postby shabelle50 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:52 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Surely this should be moved to another section as they both have nothing to do with the club . As for the content - it was to be expected tbh - some players don't get on with the way a person manages the team - it will happen in every club . Question is why sign a new contract last summer and why not stay when the previous manager that you didn't get on with has gone ?! Only Benayoun will know the answer to those questions . Either way he has left to a rival and is no longer a Liverpool player . The two things that really pis.s me off is 1. The statement of "Respect I deserve " - Benayoun it's not up to you to decide if you deserve respect - footballers need to earn respect and 2. He went to Bascome and NOTW - That's showing disrespect to the club  who helped him earn millions .

Benitez didn't get respect from a number of players because he treated them like s**** Benayoun being one of them.

Also when Benayoun signed that contract last summer it was on the basis that he wouldn't be told he was better as a sub and wouldn't be left out when he played well.

How much respect did Benitez recently show for LFC when he recently talked the press and the media about Purslow just before Hodgson was appointed?

The man would never have won the title at Anfield. Look at Torres recent comments that it was best for all concerned that he had left the club. The pity is he didn't resign after the 2-0 loss at Pompey - Hodgson coming in then or Kenny as caretaker might have got us back into fourth.

As for Benayoun well said mate and all the best for the rest of your career. Benitez didn't like you but some LFC fans do.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:54 pm

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Benny The Noon wrote:Also if players like Xabi , Crouch and Keane have not said a word about the previous manager then how do people know they had a problem with him personally ?!

Alonso - one of the best midfielders in the world. Benitez tried to sell him for 10m to part finance the purchase of the legendary ........Gareth Barry

keane - bought for 20m , rarely played, scored 2 goals in one game and then dropped for the next few games. Sold soon after for just 10m

Crouch- scored a lot but then dropped for Kuyt (who couldn't score in a brothel)

These players are your defense of a manager whe led us to  7th.

I hope Inter fail to win the league (won 5 in a row) and that will show up Benitez for the level of manager that he is.

The Alonso , Barry , Crouch , Keane debates have gone on for years and there is plenty of threads about them and they were all sold for reasons yet not one of them has come out and slated our ex manager - as for wanting him to fail elsewhere that is just petty and childish and just shows a pure hatred for a man who helped get us back among the elite in Europe
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:01 pm

shabelle50 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Surely this should be moved to another section as they both have nothing to do with the club . As for the content - it was to be expected tbh - some players don't get on with the way a person manages the team - it will happen in every club . Question is why sign a new contract last summer and why not stay when the previous manager that you didn't get on with has gone ?! Only Benayoun will know the answer to those questions . Either way he has left to a rival and is no longer a Liverpool player . The two things that really pis.s me off is 1. The statement of "Respect I deserve " - Benayoun it's not up to you to decide if you deserve respect - footballers need to earn respect and 2. He went to Bascome and NOTW - That's showing disrespect to the club  who helped him earn millions .

Benitez didn't get respect from a number of players because he treated them like s**** Benayoun being one of them.

Also when Benayoun signed that contract last summer it was on the basis that he wouldn't be told he was better as a sub and wouldn't be left out when he played well.

How much respect did Benitez recently show for LFC when he recently talked the press and the media about Purslow just before Hodgson was appointed?

The man would never have won the title at Anfield. Look at Torres recent comments that it was best for all concerned that he had left the club. The pity is he didn't resign after the 2-0 loss at Pompey - Hodgson coming in then or Kenny as caretaker might have got us back into fourth.

As for Benayoun well said mate and all the best for the rest of your career. Benitez didn't like you but some LFC fans do.

What exactly did Rafa say about Puslow and how did it show disrespect to LFC ?

As for wishing Benayoun all the best - F.uck that he has left for a big rival - I hope he fails badly

And saying well done for the words - those words do nothing but once again give the ub bad press - that is not good
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Postby In and Out » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:06 pm

As for wishing Benayoun all the best - F.uck that he has left for a big rival - I hope he fails badly


you just said hoping rafa fails is childish and only shows hatred, now check you out hoping yossi "fails badly" :laugh:
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:08 pm

In and Out wrote:
As for wishing Benayoun all the best - F.uck that he has left for a big rival - I hope he fails badly


you just said hoping rafa fails is childish and only shows hatred, now check you out hoping yossi "fails badly" :laugh:

Yep I know - rafa hasn't left to a rival and hasn't left slated the club and has kept a dignified silence throughout and hasn't tried to mask his leaving with an interview with a disgusting paper
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Postby TheLad » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:17 pm

An FORMER Liverpool player criticizing a FORMER Liverpool manager (and rightly so TBH), whom didn't get on well with each other.  Both are history, so what's the big issue? Both deserve a warm welcome when back to Anfield, as both tried their best during their spell at Liverpool. Neither are traitor or judas. Move on.
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Postby shabelle50 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:35 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Also if players like Xabi , Crouch and Keane have not said a word about the previous manager then how do people know they had a problem with him personally ?!

Actually Keane was quoted as saying when he went back to Spurs that it "could have worked out at Liverpool with the right manager". If that isn't criticising Benitez you tell me what is?

Crouch may not have fallen out with Benitez but anyone who believes Alonso went to Real just because it was because of a "boyhood dream" is kidding themselves. Benitez wanted him out it all started in the summer of 07 because of Alonso spending time with his partner and baby.
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Postby shabelle50 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:39 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
shabelle50 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Surely this should be moved to another section as they both have nothing to do with the club . As for the content - it was to be expected tbh - some players don't get on with the way a person manages the team - it will happen in every club . Question is why sign a new contract last summer and why not stay when the previous manager that you didn't get on with has gone ?! Only Benayoun will know the answer to those questions . Either way he has left to a rival and is no longer a Liverpool player . The two things that really pis.s me off is 1. The statement of "Respect I deserve " - Benayoun it's not up to you to decide if you deserve respect - footballers need to earn respect and 2. He went to Bascome and NOTW - That's showing disrespect to the club  who helped him earn millions .

Benitez didn't get respect from a number of players because he treated them like s**** Benayoun being one of them.

Also when Benayoun signed that contract last summer it was on the basis that he wouldn't be told he was better as a sub and wouldn't be left out when he played well.

How much respect did Benitez recently show for LFC when he recently talked the press and the media about Purslow just before Hodgson was appointed?

The man would never have won the title at Anfield. Look at Torres recent comments that it was best for all concerned that he had left the club. The pity is he didn't resign after the 2-0 loss at Pompey - Hodgson coming in then or Kenny as caretaker might have got us back into fourth.

As for Benayoun well said mate and all the best for the rest of your career. Benitez didn't like you but some LFC fans do.

What exactly did Rafa say about Puslow and how did it show disrespect to LFC ?

As for wishing Benayoun all the best - F.uck that he has left for a big rival - I hope he fails badly

And saying well done for the words - those words do nothing but once again give the ub bad press - that is not good

Benitez's comments were disrespectful because they implied that Hodgson shouldn't consider Liverpool as a mangerial move.
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Postby bigmick » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:43 pm

A couple gave mentioned the previous manager and the fact he's gone to Inter and wondered how well he'll do. Like many who were involved in previous debates, I'll certainly be watching the situation with close interest (in some ways as we're almost certain to have a bit of a roller coaster season, it'll provide a bit of an interesting side show).

Such was the love that some had for the previous manager, that even people such as Mourinho were dismissed as potential replacements "because he can only do it when conditions are perfect/all in his favour/he's gor squillions to spend" etc etc. It'll be interesting now to see how Rafa goes on there. He takes over a club which has won five consecutive league titles and won the Champions League for the first time in 50 years last season. A club who has money to spend and obviously has a good team currently, a club where there are no issues with regards dodgy owners etc.

I'm not even going to go down the route of saying it's "childish" to hope he succeeds or fails, simply because I believe we might as well be honest with each other. Those who massively believed in the previous manager and mourned his loss like a kid who's ice cream has just melted and splatted on the pavement will be hoping Inter sweep all before them, just like they did under Mourinho. Those of us who think Roy will actually improve us from 7th in the league and no cup runs, will be sneakily hoping that perhaps another team wins the title in Italy this season.

It's going to be an interesting season and I can't wait for it. I can't wait to see how we get on, and I can't wait to see how Inter get on as well.
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Postby taff » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:55 pm

I dont care how Inter get on.  I like Rafa and wish him all the best but he is not at our clube anymore.

I then want Roy to win the league but I didnt care about him last year

Far from moaning about ice cream or whatever it seems you cant let the Rafa thing lie. 

He is gone.  I wish him success but generally Inter dont bother me unless we get them in a cup.

I do hope Napoli do well however, lovely city.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:32 pm

shabelle50 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
shabelle50 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Surely this should be moved to another section as they both have nothing to do with the club . As for the content - it was to be expected tbh - some players don't get on with the way a person manages the team - it will happen in every club . Question is why sign a new contract last summer and why not stay when the previous manager that you didn't get on with has gone ?! Only Benayoun will know the answer to those questions . Either way he has left to a rival and is no longer a Liverpool player . The two things that really pis.s me off is 1. The statement of "Respect I deserve " - Benayoun it's not up to you to decide if you deserve respect - footballers need to earn respect and 2. He went to Bascome and NOTW - That's showing disrespect to the club  who helped him earn millions .

Benitez didn't get respect from a number of players because he treated them like s**** Benayoun being one of them.

Also when Benayoun signed that contract last summer it was on the basis that he wouldn't be told he was better as a sub and wouldn't be left out when he played well.

How much respect did Benitez recently show for LFC when he recently talked the press and the media about Purslow just before Hodgson was appointed?

The man would never have won the title at Anfield. Look at Torres recent comments that it was best for all concerned that he had left the club. The pity is he didn't resign after the 2-0 loss at Pompey - Hodgson coming in then or Kenny as caretaker might have got us back into fourth.

As for Benayoun well said mate and all the best for the rest of your career. Benitez didn't like you but some LFC fans do.

What exactly did Rafa say about Puslow and how did it show disrespect to LFC ?

As for wishing Benayoun all the best - F.uck that he has left for a big rival - I hope he fails badly

And saying well done for the words - those words do nothing but once again give the ub bad press - that is not good

Benitez's comments were disrespectful because they implied that Hodgson shouldn't consider Liverpool as a mangerial move.

What exactly did rafa say and please point me in the direction of the article where he has said anything
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Postby bigmick » Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:42 pm

taff wrote:Far from moaning about ice cream or whatever it seems you cant let the Rafa thing lie. 

:laugh: Don't be daft Taff, read the forum for the last two weeks before you give it all that. I was banned for six weeks (for nothing to do with the manager) but resolved to not get involved in debates about the previous manager when I came back, and by and large I haven't. Some people are obsessed with the subject, but I to be totally honest find it all a bit boring now.

Those that loved him still love him, anmd those that don't still don't. I don't really care about Inter either, but I've been on the forum long enough to know that if they sweep all before them then will be a certain amount of crowing going on. I don't even mind it one bit, I expect it and think it's absolutely fair enough. Similarly, if they bomb out and the previous manager gets sacked after six months, then it would be naiive in the extreme to think it won't cause debate/arguement.

However the previous manager goes at his new club, people on different sides of the debate which went on will see it as either vindication of their point of view, or as (enter excuse as to why he's won everything or feck all here).

As to the here and now though, to describe me as not being able to let it lie is bonkers and miles off. I've been saying nothing else for two weeks other than lets talk about THIS season coming, how we're going to improve, who we're going to sign/sell, what we're going to do.

Still, if that's what you think then fair enough, no bother either way.
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Postby taff » Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:12 pm

:D Should have gone for the no bother option and saved yourself some typing  :D

Oh well heres to this season  :wwww
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Postby shabelle50 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 3:32 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
shabelle50 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
shabelle50 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Surely this should be moved to another section as they both have nothing to do with the club . As for the content - it was to be expected tbh - some players don't get on with the way a person manages the team - it will happen in every club . Question is why sign a new contract last summer and why not stay when the previous manager that you didn't get on with has gone ?! Only Benayoun will know the answer to those questions . Either way he has left to a rival and is no longer a Liverpool player . The two things that really pis.s me off is 1. The statement of "Respect I deserve " - Benayoun it's not up to you to decide if you deserve respect - footballers need to earn respect and 2. He went to Bascome and NOTW - That's showing disrespect to the club  who helped him earn millions .

Benitez didn't get respect from a number of players because he treated them like s**** Benayoun being one of them.

Also when Benayoun signed that contract last summer it was on the basis that he wouldn't be told he was better as a sub and wouldn't be left out when he played well.

How much respect did Benitez recently show for LFC when he recently talked the press and the media about Purslow just before Hodgson was appointed?

The man would never have won the title at Anfield. Look at Torres recent comments that it was best for all concerned that he had left the club. The pity is he didn't resign after the 2-0 loss at Pompey - Hodgson coming in then or Kenny as caretaker might have got us back into fourth.

As for Benayoun well said mate and all the best for the rest of your career. Benitez didn't like you but some LFC fans do.

What exactly did Rafa say about Puslow and how did it show disrespect to LFC ?

As for wishing Benayoun all the best - F.uck that he has left for a big rival - I hope he fails badly

And saying well done for the words - those words do nothing but once again give the ub bad press - that is not good

Benitez's comments were disrespectful because they implied that Hodgson shouldn't consider Liverpool as a mangerial move.

What exactly did rafa say and please point me in the direction of the article where he has said anything

http://www.mk-news.co.uk/Sport/F1-Red-Bull-Racing/Benitez-unimpressed-by-Purslow-46995.xnf?BodyFormat=0&
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