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[neil]

whats not to judge? poor results and bad attitude = sackedamundo

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RBG I think its only fair to offer the same courtesy to the both of them, neither should realistically be judged until they are able to mould their squads to fit their own styles but the truth is neither are going to be given that priviledge, Roy will be in the same position in 6 months time where Rafa is now and we all know it

I know Burj Lad ...but it doesn't stop it being right what I have just said    does it mate ?

[burjennio]

Im very confident that 2 years down the line both will be doing fine at other clubs. Neither are as terrible as people on here make out, in fact I go as far as to say they are both good coaches! I know that line of thinking doesnt fit in with the mantra of this place but Im sure both will prove themselves again in the future, just not at Anfield.

[maguskwt]

Average squad age Serie A 10/11

Serie A: Average Squad Age - Dec 2010
The average age of Italian Serie A squads.


24.11 - Palermo
25.09 - Cagliari
25.19 - Udinese
25.28 - Fiorentina
25.39 - Cesena
25.50 - Sampdoria
25.72 - Juventus
25.94 - Lecce
25.95 - Bologna
26.15 - Parma
26.24 - Genoa
26.36 - Bari
26.45 - Inter Milan
26.99 - Catania
27.00 - Chievo
27.82 - Brescia
27.84 - Lazio
28.42 - Napoli
28.92 - Roma
29.03 - AC Milan


Just to note this is whole squads and Inter have been trying to bring youth players through this season into the fringes as was stated in the Gabriel Marcotti interview posted in the Serie A thread

Oh riiiiiight it's like we can rely on players like shelvey, wilson and pacheco for the whole season right?

The fact is that 80% of Inter's key players are above 30 or near 30. Only Schneijder is 26. The rest are FRINGE players 18-19 years old! That's what makes Inter's average age low...

as you know stats can be read the way you want it... it's the FIRST TEAM average age that counts. 

[stmichael]

Im very confident that 2 years down the line both will be doing fine at other clubs. Neither are as terrible as people on here make out, in fact I go as far as to say they are both good coaches! I know that line of thinking doesnt fit in with the mantra of this place but Im sure both will prove themselves again in the future, just not at Anfield.

a mate of mine said yesterday said that he thought rafa would go to blackburn

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Rafa outside home
home.... the video

[maguskwt]

Anyway this is the only forum that has dumbasses still supporting an average english manager like Roy "The Owl" (oh wait is it "The Hamster?") Hodgson...whereas people with football knowledge knows what kind of manager Hodgson really is even before he signed for us... Now down we go with this man in charge... Merry X'mas and Happy New Year to all Roypologists... This is what  you get... a taste of your own bitter medicine for wanting Rafa out...  I'm gonna retire from this forum for a while... 

[burjennio]

Anyway this is the only forum that has dumbasses still supporting an average english manager like Roy "The Owl" (oh wait is it "The Hamster?") Hodgson...whereas people with football knowledge knows what kind of manager Hodgson realy is even before he signed for us... Now down we go with this man in charge... Merry X'mas and Happy New Year to all Roypologists...  I'm gonna retire from this forum for a while... 

We support him because he is the manager Mags lad, it has nowt to do with him being English and while he may not be doing a good job we have to believe he can turn it round and if he cant then his position will be reviewed at the end of the season.

[stmichael]

while he may not be doing a good job we have to believe he can turn it round

that's the problem.

i've seen nothing this season whatsoever, especially away from home to suggest he can turn it around.

it's at the stage now where i'll actually be glad if the boxing day game againt blackpool gets called off because i'm generally apprehensive about us going there and getting anything. that's how depressing things are at the moment.

the thought of hodgson having money to spend in january also scares me to death.

[Ben Patrick]

while he may not be doing a good job we have to believe he can turn it round

that's the problem.

i've seen nothing this season whatsoever, especially away from home to suggest he can turn it around.

it's at the stage now where i'll actually be glad if the boxing day game againt blackpool gets called off because i'm generally apprehensive about us going there and getting anything. that's how depressing things are at the moment.

the thought of hodgson having money to spend in january also scares me to death.

that's how i felt for the second half of last season.

[burjennio]

I dont see the point of getting rid of him until the summer, though I wouldnt be splashing alot of cash at this point either. I really would class this as a season of "steadying the ship" and then the board can decide the best way forward come the end of the season. It would be a huge ask to bring in 3-4 players and expect them to hit the ground running at a time when the side needs all the consistency available to it.

[worcester_red]

Do you know what's the  best thing... and at the same time the saddest about his sacking ... is those saying he wasn't a good enough manager will now never know  they can only speculate ,precisely the same posters who crank up give" Roy till the end of the season  ,its only half way yet " give him money for his own players..... can now only make presumptions about Benitez's time in Italy based on what they think would have happened ,and that must be considerably galling for the "I TOLD YOU SO " crowd .... and now the man is back in his home
right on our doorstep ..... careful what you wish for people ....

Sorry but 
the fact that he was sacked from a team which had just won the treble, i.e a bloody good team and squad, after just 6 months is all the proof I, and most sane people, will ever need to proove that he failed in SerieA and is not a patch on Maureen and most other top managers.

[shabelle50]

Rafa again wouldn't be the answer and I can't see it happening in a million years. The question will be though who should come in if Hodgson isn't a long terma appointment and my guess at the moment would still be Rijkaard/Hiddink/O'Neill.

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Do you know what's the  best thing... and at the same time the saddest about his sacking ... is those saying he wasn't a good enough manager will now never know  they can only speculate ,precisely the same posters who crank up give" Roy till the end of the season  ,its only half way yet " give him money for his own players..... can now only make presumptions about Benitez's time in Italy based on what they think would have happened ,and that must be considerably galling for the "I TOLD YOU SO " crowd .... and now the man is back in his home
right on our doorstep ..... careful what you wish for people ....

Sorry but 
the fact that he was sacked from a team which had just won the treble, i.e a bloody good team and squad, after just 6 months is all the proof I, and most sane people, will ever need to proove that he failed in SerieA and is not a patch on Maureen and most other top managers.

Like I said 6 months is only half the season ,so unless your the resident forum clairvoyant ,then you would be only speculating to how the Italian season as a whole would have panned out
Galling isn't it  ... now do you understand ?

[Masch79]

Do you know what's the  best thing... and at the same time the saddest about his sacking ... is those saying he wasn't a good enough manager will now never know  they can only speculate ,precisely the same posters who crank up give" Roy till the end of the season  ,its only half way yet " give him money for his own players..... can now only make presumptions about Benitez's time in Italy based on what they think would have happened ,and that must be considerably galling for the "I TOLD YOU SO " crowd .... and now the man is back in his home
right on our doorstep ..... careful what you wish for people ....

Sorry but 
the fact that he was sacked from a team which had just won the treble, i.e a bloody good team and squad, after just 6 months is all the proof I, and most sane people, will ever need to proove that he failed in SerieA and is not a patch on Maureen and most other top managers.

Sane people Haaaa!! You mean them who walk round with heads stuck up their .

From Rory Smith in an article about how Rafa divides opinion. It is actually a balanced piece talking about how the different fractions view Rafa.

"There is one point that all should be able to agree on, though, including Benitez himself. The biggest mistake he made this year, these 12 months he will long to forget, was agreeing to succeed Jose Mourinho in June. As one of his staff at San Siro remarked, the Inter job was “un caramello avellenato.” A poisoned sweet. Tasty from the outside, rotten at the core.

Being appointed manager of the most successful club side in the world may appear a sinecure, a matter simply of keeping things ticking over, but Inter, as of the end of the Champions League final seven months ago, were a side built for the past. Most of their first XI, the Mourinho stalwarts, were past their prime, exhausted from producing one final push to further the mystique surrounding the Portuguese. Massimo Moratti, Inter’s owner, was tired of spending money after 15 years of profligate dreaming. The club was sated. There was no hunger left. Into the end of the banquet walked Benitez, entirely famished. It was never likely to work."

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport....-divide

If Maureen ever came to us and worked his proven system he would ruin us because we would not have the cash to rebuild when after a couple of years, he cleared off leaving us with a set of aging has beens, just like Inter.

The level of ignorance in this place is astounding sometimes.