Would we really miss alonso? - Xabi swap deal

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Postby 112-1077774096 » Tue May 29, 2007 1:12 pm

i cant believe you are having to explain it again    :D
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Postby account deleted by request » Tue May 29, 2007 1:17 pm

peewee wrote:i cant believe you are having to explain it again    :D

There are none so blind as those that will not see  :D
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Tue May 29, 2007 1:25 pm

that saying, 'in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king' doesnt quite make sense, if its the land of the blind how can there be a one eyed man who can see, then it wouldnt be the land of the blind   ???
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Postby redtrader74 » Tue May 29, 2007 1:30 pm

s@int wrote:
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s@int wrote:I don't think anyone can argue that Lampard is a more prolific scorer than Gerrard because he is also a more selfish player , try including how many more shots Lampard has to Gerrard.If you want to cream your pants over Alonso you also have to face facts AS WELL, apart from all the unnoticed stuff that only certain members of the forum are blessed with the ability to see, he has only made one assist all season, and in the view of most respected critics including Alan Hansen, Tommy Smith etc he has had a poor season. Then again wtf would they know, what have they ever won!

Yes Lampard is more prolific a goal scorer and more prolific in assists to Gerrard. Therefore if you wish to state Xabi's assists as a negative then obviously you believe Fatty to be better than Gerrard? And if scoring goals is selfish, i couldn't give a shit, as i thought thats the ultimate point of football.

It is not about creaming pants over Alonso, it is about having a balanced view, something that is too difficult for you. Xabi's season has not been any worse than Gerrards yet as the home town boy he can't be criticised. If we follow your argument then lets sell Gerrard for £35-40m and buy TWO top goalscorers for £20m each.

The unnoticed work you mention is important, because without that, for example the stats would prove Lampard to be better than Gerrard which he is not imo.

If you believe that the opinions of Hansen, Smith et al to be the be all, then why don't you stop posting on here and when a topic starts just search the net for what they have said and post that.

You seem to have some problem with that grey matter between your ears mate, try using it instead of just picking at it with a pencil. We have five midfielders for 2 places, in a perfect world we would keep all five you moron, as its not a perfect world, and any world that has pathetic little :censored: like you in it can't be perfect, we may have to sell one of them to strengthen in other areas. I think the obvious candidate would be Alonso for the reasons I gave. You obviously don't because you are an idiot.

Is that too hard for that little brain of yours to understand moron. Why not take trip back to the retard school you came from I am sure they miss you. :censored:!

Too difficult for you to discuss so you resort to abuse, any idiot can do that, but to give a reasoned argument now that is hard and well out of your scope and level of intelligence.

I must congratulate you on being able to read and find articles in the paper to post here, obviously your only forte.

Now i could call you a thick cunt with a tiny penis but its not really my way, i come on to discuss using facts and my opinion. I'm sure one day you will have your own opinion when a pundit gives it to you.
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Postby account deleted by request » Tue May 29, 2007 1:31 pm

Technically most blind people can actually see, at least enough to differentiate light from dark, so I suppose in the land of the blind he has impaired vision, but is not so blind as the others in his one good eye. Then again it might just be B0LLOCKS :D
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Tue May 29, 2007 1:31 pm

look back through the thread, saint has already explained his opinion, also in the other thread.

why should people keep explaining because others cant be bothered to read back?
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Tue May 29, 2007 1:33 pm

s@int wrote:Technically most blind people can actually see, at least enough to differentiate light from dark, so I suppose in the land of the blind he has impaired vision, but is not so blind as the others in his one good eye. Then again it might just be B0LLOCKS :D

yeah i will go for B0LLOCKS mate    :D
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Postby redtrader74 » Tue May 29, 2007 1:34 pm

peewee wrote:look back through the thread, saint has already explained his opinion, also in the other thread.

why should people keep explaining because others cant be bothered to read back?

I've read it, its boring and illogical.
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Postby account deleted by request » Tue May 29, 2007 1:35 pm

redtrader74 wrote:
s@int wrote:
redtrader74 wrote:
s@int wrote:I don't think anyone can argue that Lampard is a more prolific scorer than Gerrard because he is also a more selfish player , try including how many more shots Lampard has to Gerrard.If you want to cream your pants over Alonso you also have to face facts AS WELL, apart from all the unnoticed stuff that only certain members of the forum are blessed with the ability to see, he has only made one assist all season, and in the view of most respected critics including Alan Hansen, Tommy Smith etc he has had a poor season. Then again wtf would they know, what have they ever won!

Yes Lampard is more prolific a goal scorer and more prolific in assists to Gerrard. Therefore if you wish to state Xabi's assists as a negative then obviously you believe Fatty to be better than Gerrard? And if scoring goals is selfish, i couldn't give a shit, as i thought thats the ultimate point of football.

It is not about creaming pants over Alonso, it is about having a balanced view, something that is too difficult for you. Xabi's season has not been any worse than Gerrards yet as the home town boy he can't be criticised. If we follow your argument then lets sell Gerrard for £35-40m and buy TWO top goalscorers for £20m each.

The unnoticed work you mention is important, because without that, for example the stats would prove Lampard to be better than Gerrard which he is not imo.

If you believe that the opinions of Hansen, Smith et al to be the be all, then why don't you stop posting on here and when a topic starts just search the net for what they have said and post that.

You seem to have some problem with that grey matter between your ears mate, try using it instead of just picking at it with a pencil. We have five midfielders for 2 places, in a perfect world we would keep all five you moron, as its not a perfect world, and any world that has pathetic little :censored: like you in it can't be perfect, we may have to sell one of them to strengthen in other areas. I think the obvious candidate would be Alonso for the reasons I gave. You obviously don't because you are an idiot.

Is that too hard for that little brain of yours to understand moron. Why not take trip back to the retard school you came from I am sure they miss you. :censored:!

Too difficult for you to discuss so you resort to abuse, any idiot can do that, but to give a reasoned argument now that is hard and well out of your scope and level of intelligence.

I must congratulate you on being able to read and find articles in the paper to post here, obviously your only forte.

Now i could call you a thick cunt with a tiny penis but its not really my way, i come on to discuss using facts and my opinion. I'm sure one day you will have your own opinion when a pundit gives it to you.

I have given my opinion on about 4 occasions in this thread, just try reading back ,if you can read that is?
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Postby redtrader74 » Tue May 29, 2007 1:36 pm

Why would you write the same thing four times? it is because it didn't even make sense to you?
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Postby GunGod » Tue May 29, 2007 1:37 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
See what I mean?

No facts to back yourselves up, so you attempt to belittle me.


Read the first five decent pages of this thread lando, our points were proven there I for one am not ghoing to repeat myself to you. Read the f.ucking thread ! You may also see some objective views from posters like Mick and Scottbot.

Also you'll do well in noting that their was NO abuse what so ever in this thread, and Sabre was amongst the discussion too he wasnt hounded atall, people were fairly puttng there views accross of course until page six where the high and mighty self confest funny guy waded in with his usual tirade of abusive, and inevitably from there the thread went to the dogs, because as usuall if someone doesnt agree with the 'funny guy' especially about his pin-up Xabi Alonso all hells broken loose and expected rude outburts from the self proclaimed funny guy, ha that statement alomost has an air of Jose Mouriniho about it.

Short memory then? Or do things end with the locking of a thread?

I have read every post in this thread, and your reasons for selling Alonso are not facts. They are opinions.

So I say again - put up, or shut up.

And I am not the self-professed anything, you idiot. I was merely using another FACT to counter your arguement.

It really is quite simple - you accuse me of something (in this particular instance of "not being funny"), and I counter that with the fact that I was voted "funniest member" 2 years running.

Is this not a good counter, then? Does this not disprove your theory beyond all doubt?

And BigMick HAS discussed this topic, yes. He himself would agree, though, that he is not an authority on football, as has so far been proven by his "I know it's early, but..." series of threads, which are, by his own admission, hit and miss.

Oh, and just to further my point (don'tcha just LOVE facts?), Bigmick also stated a while ago that I was funny enough to be on TV.

Your move, c*nt...  :eyebrow

Mate you keep going on and on about your 'facts' and how you've been backing your arguments with 'facts'. The thing is, from something you wrote a few pages back:

"The thing is, an "assist" means that player was the last pperson to pass the ball to the scorer.Now try and find a stat which includes 2 or 3 passes before that.
I bet Alonso has at least 20."

Now this ain't a fact either. "I bet" is at best, an educated guess and at worst, a desperate attempt to win an argument.

So pls don't go on about others not talking about 'facts', for you don't seem to do it 100% either.

Not to mention that going by your assessment of assists, "I bet" Reina could probably have matched Alonso for his 20 with his goal kicks.  :D
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Postby account deleted by request » Tue May 29, 2007 1:39 pm

redtrader74 wrote:Why would you write the same thing four times? it is because it didn't even make sense to you?

No, because there are thick people like you who can't seem to grasp something the first time.
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Postby grayghost » Tue May 29, 2007 1:52 pm

GunGod wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
Bamaga man wrote:
See what I mean?

No facts to back yourselves up, so you attempt to belittle me.


Read the first five decent pages of this thread lando, our points were proven there I for one am not ghoing to repeat myself to you. Read the f.ucking thread ! You may also see some objective views from posters like Mick and Scottbot.

Also you'll do well in noting that their was NO abuse what so ever in this thread, and Sabre was amongst the discussion too he wasnt hounded atall, people were fairly puttng there views accross of course until page six where the high and mighty self confest funny guy waded in with his usual tirade of abusive, and inevitably from there the thread went to the dogs, because as usuall if someone doesnt agree with the 'funny guy' especially about his pin-up Xabi Alonso all hells broken loose and expected rude outburts from the self proclaimed funny guy, ha that statement alomost has an air of Jose Mouriniho about it.

Short memory then? Or do things end with the locking of a thread?

I have read every post in this thread, and your reasons for selling Alonso are not facts. They are opinions.

So I say again - put up, or shut up.

And I am not the self-professed anything, you idiot. I was merely using another FACT to counter your arguement.

It really is quite simple - you accuse me of something (in this particular instance of "not being funny"), and I counter that with the fact that I was voted "funniest member" 2 years running.

Is this not a good counter, then? Does this not disprove your theory beyond all doubt?

And BigMick HAS discussed this topic, yes. He himself would agree, though, that he is not an authority on football, as has so far been proven by his "I know it's early, but..." series of threads, which are, by his own admission, hit and miss.

Oh, and just to further my point (don'tcha just LOVE facts?), Bigmick also stated a while ago that I was funny enough to be on TV.

Your move, c*nt...  :eyebrow

Mate you keep going on and on about your 'facts' and how you've been backing your arguments with 'facts'. The thing is, from something you wrote a few pages back:

"The thing is, an "assist" means that player was the last pperson to pass the ball to the scorer.Now try and find a stat which includes 2 or 3 passes before that.
I bet Alonso has at least 20."

Now this ain't a fact either. "I bet" is at best, an educated guess and at worst, a desperate attempt to win an argument.

So pls don't go on about others not talking about 'facts', for you don't seem to do it 100% either.

Not to mention that going by your assessment of assists, "I bet" Reina could probably have matched Alonso for his 20 with his goal kicks.  :D

Anywhoooo......... swap Alonso for Etoo.  :D  :D
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Postby redtrader74 » Tue May 29, 2007 1:53 pm

s@int wrote:
redtrader74 wrote:Why would you write the same thing four times? it is because it didn't even make sense to you?

No, because there are thick people like you who can't seem to grasp something the first time.

No its probably because you like seeing your name on the boards.

Look you idiot, i come on to discuss, i could be right, wrong or neither. I am also willing to be swayed by a decent point of veiw. If you do not have the strength of argument to persuade me that is your failing, when that is the case adults, of which i can only assume you are, agree to disagree, not start abuse.
Now i know it is easy to be the 'big' man behind the screen but it does you no favours, had you chosen to be so elequent to my face you would now be on a drip.
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Postby account deleted by request » Tue May 29, 2007 1:58 pm

Sometimes in life you meet a person without the intelligence to grasp a reasoned argument , you are one such person. I gave my opinion if you dont like it LUMP IT.
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