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Postby Lando_Griffin » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:27 pm

If any coach in world football denies they would love to have Steven Gerrard available to them, they are talking out their jacksey.
Simple as that.
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Postby Falabella » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:29 pm

Sabre wrote:
Gerrard doesn't play as a totally defensing midfielder, just a crazy man would put him among the "quartet".

If in Arsenal and in Juve Gilberto and Emerson uses to attack sometimes, in the Brazilian Team they plays almost as a third back.


In a nutshell Fallabella, you just need to watch more full games of S Gerrard, stop watching only highlights and photos of football, and stop believing the hyped press about your team in the local press. Once you have seen 100 games of European football, come back, and we'll talk about football.

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So Gerrard plays every time behind the central circle, never cross the middle line, a huge nearly back.

You must be kidding.
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Postby Sabre » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:39 pm

So Gerrard plays every time behind the central circle, never cross the middle line, a huge nearly back.

You must be kidding.


I'm a Real Sociedad supporter, in the Spanish liga. To name a few, I've seen Riquelme, el Piojo Lopez, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Maradona!!, Andreas Brehme, Schuster, Stoitchkov, Demetrio Albertini, John Aldridge, Mauro Silva, Bebeto, Zinedine Zidane, and those only are some of the ones that I've seen regularly in my stadium in the last 20 years. Very different players all of them, class all of them.

Steven Gerrard is amongst those top class players, although I've still havent the pleasure of watching him in Anoeta. He's utter class. He presses, he conducts the ball like best players of the eighties, he conducts the ball in min 70 at a considerable speed, have a great long shot, Excellent long passing (lacks the ability that has Alonso to "sleep" the ball though in long balls) Dribbles, runs, intercepts, takes corners, and when he's put in the bloody wing, he makes runs, and crosses. He's a hell of a player, and as you can see I've seen a few. Brazilians too.

I'm not kidding.
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Postby A.B. » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:47 pm

Falabella wrote:
Sabre wrote:
Gerrard doesn't play as a totally defensing midfielder, just a crazy man would put him among the "quartet".

If in Arsenal and in Juve Gilberto and Emerson uses to attack sometimes, in the Brazilian Team they plays almost as a third back.


In a nutshell Fallabella, you just need to watch more full games of S Gerrard, stop watching only highlights and photos of football, and stop believing the hyped press about your team in the local press. Once you have seen 100 games of European football, come back, and we'll talk about football.

:laugh:

So Gerrard plays every time behind the central circle, never cross the middle line, a huge nearly back.

You must be kidding.

Gerrard can play anywhere. Fullback,centerback,winger,central midfielder or striker. He's the most versitile player in the world currently and he's a damn good one at that.
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Postby Falabella » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:47 pm

Sabre wrote:
So Gerrard plays every time behind the central circle, never cross the middle line, a huge nearly back.

You must be kidding.


I'm a Real Sociedad supporter, in the Spanish liga. To name a few, I've seen Riquelme, el Piojo Lopez, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Maradona!!, Andreas Brehme, Schuster, Stoitchkov, Demetrio Albertini, John Aldridge, Mauro Silva, Bebeto, Zinedine Zidane, and those only are some of the ones that I've seen regularly in my stadium in the last 20 years. Very different players all of them, class all of them.

Steven Gerrard is amongst those top class players, although I've still havent the pleasure of watching him in Anoeta. He's utter class. He presses, he conducts the ball like best players of the eighties, he conducts the ball in min 70 at a considerable speed, have a great long shot, Excellent long passing (lacks the ability that has Alonso to "sleep" the ball though in long balls) Dribbles, runs, intercepts, takes corners, and when he's put in the bloody wing, he makes runs, and crosses. He's a hell of a player, and as you can see I've seen a few. Brazilians too.

I'm not kidding.

I'm not contesting Gerrard's quality, definitely not.

For me you were saying that he plays never attacking, totally defensife, maybe I misunderstood you.

Was that what you meant?

If yes, you ARE kidding
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Postby A.B. » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:48 pm

Gerrard isn't a total defensive player. Go watch some games, moron.
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Postby Falabella » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:59 pm

A.B. wrote:Gerrard isn't a total defensive player. Go watch some games, moron.

THAT'S what I am saying man! Read my posts again!
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Postby A.B. » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:05 pm

I can't understand half of your posts.
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Postby Falabella » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:13 pm

Sorry, I'm not a native english speaker :D
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Postby Falabella » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:19 pm

Gerrard doesn't play as a totally defensing midfielder, just a crazy man would put him among the "quartet".


Is it that difficult to understand?

Probably there are some gramatical errors, but isn't it understanding?
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Postby Pablo_Escobar » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:20 pm

Neither am I :)

I just keep wondering why Rafa insist to play our top squad instead of resting players :O
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Postby Red black white » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:44 pm

England x Brazil, next year, ok? I think the final will be between Brazil and Germany. It's just my point of view...I'm not disrespecting England. But the discussion here is between São Paulo and Liverpool.

Steven Gerrard would for sure play in ANY South American team. I agree with Sabre when he says that he is utter class. However, it's extremely difficul to be on Brazilian team. There are so many options that Brazilian team's coach tends to choose for those who have already played for Brazilian team.

ANALYSIS (MADE FOR ME), ABOUT THE MATCH ON SUNDAY:

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3-5-2

Rogério Ceni - 8.0

Fabão - 7.0
Lugano - 9.0
Edcarlos - 5.0

Cicinho - 9.0
Mineiro - 8.5
Josué - 7.5
Danilo - 6.5
Júnior - 8.0

Aloísio - 7.0
Amoroso - 9.5

AVERAGE: 7.72
*However, São Paulo's couch can change the formation from 3-5-2 to 4-4-2 entering Souza to substitute Edcarlos. The average would increase, but São Paulo plays better in 3-5-2.

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4-4-2

Reina - 7.0

Finnan - 7.0
Hyypia - 7.0
Carregher - 8.0
Riise - 8.0

Xabi Alonso - 8.5
Sissoko - 7.5
Gerrard - 9.5
Luis Garcia - 9.0

Cissé - 9.0
Crouch - 7.0

AVERAGE: 7.95
*However, Morientes could substitute Cissé or Crouch. I think that in both situations the average would increase.


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As you can see, it will be difficult for both teams. Cissé has said today that São Paulo is weak and that Liverpool will stroll around. He guessed that the score would be 5-0. I also guess that he will have a little surprise, because I'm sure he doesn't know São Paulo team (he may just have watched São Paulo x Al-Ittihad). You can trust on these number because I know quite well both teams.

Now, a joke:

Cissé before the match: "The score will be 5-0"
Cissé after the match: "Help, I need somebody, help", although he isn't English, the song is appropriate for Liverpool.
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Postby Garymac » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:02 pm

Any chance of a link for those cisse quotes, i hope you still come on tomorrow after we kick your :censored: from Japan all the way back to Brazil pal  :nod
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Postby El Nino_#9 » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:05 pm

Enough of the handbags...
prediction time!
i think it'll be a tight game.
Liverpool 2-0 Sao Paulo
Gerrard double!

Cmon Pool  :buttrock
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Postby crazyhorse » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:37 pm

LFC 3

SP 1

Thats my prediction.
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