Liverpool FC Forum

[A.B.]

what will we do when we have no injuries, what excuses can we come up with then. im tired of excuses, blaming injuries etc. we are not and never will be the only team that suffers injuries, Manu are missing horseface, @rse are missing campbell, Chelski are missing robben, this is to name just a few of the injuries these clubs are carrying. the difference between them and us is that they are still prepared to put in some effort rather than look for excuses

I don't understand. How can our injury list of 16 players be equivalent to the injury of Robben[Chelsea] and Campbell[Arsenal]?

Even if Chelsea had 10 players injured they would still have enough quality to carry on because they have two class players in every position. We on the other hand do not have the same luxury.

If I remember correctly, and forgive the senility if I'm wrong, but at the start of the season the scum had some serious injuries, and their results reflected that.  You and forget about using Chelski as an example, they have 2 class players for each position.

That said, the Scum showed heart when it mattered.  They came through and fought back.  Hate the fu(kers as I do, but Fergie sure can motivate this player to play as a team.  That is what is missing at LFC, heart, the ability to overcome adversity, and battle through.  I don't care about loosing to better teams.  But it is the manner of our loosing matches which worries me.  All too often it is to, on paper, weaker teams.  They just wanted to win more, plain and simple - not better players, better tactics or more money.

Yes Man Utd had 10 players injured before the season even started, they missed the first two months of the season. While we've had injuries through out the whole season, most injuries have been in a span of a month or two. We're not talking about a broken toe or a finger we're talking about injuries that have players like Cisse,Alonso and Pongolle out for the season.

Man Utd couldn't get the results until their players came back from injury, they were sh1t until their key players started to recover. They didn't work hard with the players they had and got the results. We were with at thin squad when we beat Arsenal.

Man Utd also are not inconsistant which has been our problem for years now. When you have inconsistancy and crucial injuries then you have a hell of a problem.

On another note some fans really annoy me for the following reason. When Benitez played an extremely young side against Burnley there were fans wanting the club to sack him. He was under fire for playing such a young side[which people wanted to see as Houllier hardly played them] and not playing the senior players.

Now that he's playing senior players those same fans want the youngsters to play instead because of the inconsistant results. It seems to me that some just can't make up their mind. You can't have it both ways.

[Dalglish]

I admire your optimism in a sea of doom and gloom AB

All I ask is for a little passion and commitment from the privaleged few that get to wear the shirt and from where I've sat this season it's been missing in too many games. All too often teams that have come for a result and have been preapred to scrap for it have outfought us and thats got to stop.

Against Charlton Away we founght for every second ball and our superior class and skil saw us through. Skill an dflair we have in abundance but in this league you have to earn the right to play.

YNWA

[112-1077774096]

I admire your optimism in a sea of doom and gloom AB

All I ask is for a little passion and commitment from the privaleged few that get to wear the shirt and from where I've sat this season it's been missing in too many games. All too often teams that have come for a result and have been preapred to scrap for it have outfought us and thats got to stop.

Against Charlton Away we founght for every second ball and our superior class and skil saw us through. Skill an dflair we have in abundance but in this league you have to earn the right to play.

YNWA

the very point im trying to make dalglish, thankyou

[Dalglish]

Thanks for the plaudits Peewee although it gives me no satisfaction to know we have the same mind.

Walk on ............

[112-1077774096]

Thanks for the plaudits Peewee although it gives me no satisfaction to know we have the same mind.

Walk on ............

i dont know if thats a compliment or a put down   

[Dalglish]

Neither mate just sad that we share the same opinion that LFC sometimes just don't fancy the fight

[LiverpoolMadman]

I think Liverpool almost a complete team; the only thing that let us down is our defender and defense midfield. First we really need to replace Dudek, Hypia, Traore, Hamman and Biscan. (Too old, too slow, too soft and too many mistake). We need young, strong tackle, always at the right position and also not too many mistake made.

For the new comer like Garcia, Nunez and Josemi, I feel that I would let them play one or two seasons more, but to tell the truth they are no bad this season.
As for Pellegrino, I belived RB have to take him in because it’s just a backup plan . In case Hypia get injure .

From what I can see that this season, Liverpool been hit a lot of “bad luck “. More than 5 key players have long term injure esp. Cisse and Alonso. I really miss them. This season let fight for that 4th spot but next season I believe it will be better than this one.

[112-1077774096]

Neither mate just sad that we share the same opinion that LFC sometimes just don't fancy the fight

i get the impression we are of a similar age, and with that comes some realism. i know years ago i would not have said these things even if we were performing this bad than. i would have defended the team to the hilt rather than admit to failings. i just cant do that anymore.

my uncle who first took me the game in 1973 hit the nail on the head for me one day a few years ago, we were discussing a liverpool player, i dont remember who, i said he shouldnt leave and my uncle pointed out that he should leave as we have won nothing with him in the team, he pointed out he wasnt good enough. this was a shock to me as i believed that you should your players no matter what. now i know if something is underperforming, get rid of it.

this is something i now do in business, dont fall in love with any stock i buy, keep a pure business head on and do what has to be done. thats why i now dont really care who stay and who goes as long as it brings the desired results and brings us some glory back

[azriahmad]

No, Liverpool are not a complete team. David Moyes has far from a complete team but he had successfully forged an effective team. I imagine that he can make a teamm like Liverpool to be more complete.

A complete team has a bit of everything - skill, flair, heart, endeavour, commitment, tactical flexibility (can play flowing football but can also mix it up if the going gets rough) and intelligence on the players' part - which all consipre to create a consistent team. We clearly lack some of the above elements due to having too many rots and mediocre players.

With regards to injury, a complete team should be able to compensate by having back-up players who can adequately replace the injured players. Our main problem is that too many players do not try hard enough, have little heart and desire to work hard.

Mourinho has forged a complete mentality in his Chelski millionaires, who during Claudio Rineiri's time lacked the desire to slog and get results. If even expensively assembled foreigners are willing to knuckle down and work, there is something wrong with our players who shy away in tough confrontations.

[Dalglish]

The difficulty sometimes with the past glories of Liverpool football Club is that you can end up living in the past instead of simply respecting the achievements and history of this great club.

People often say football has changed but has it really ? Doesn't it still hold true that the best performing teams tend to win 

Of course things have moved on but the ability to scrap and battle your way through and give 100% should stil be the pre requisite of ANY footballer.

What I'm seeing at Liverpool far too often are players devoid of confidence and/or ability and sometimes worse of all commitment to the cause.

Yes, we have Gerrard (For how long) , Alonso is class and so is Morientes but the rest would struggle to gain entry into the top 3 teams in the prem.

As I would imagine every Liverpool fan I retauin hope for the future but to be honest if i came away from games and knew in my heart the 11 players had given their all I wouldn't be looking at the league position but contenting myself that like myself as a supporter I saw the players giving their all     


Walk on ........

[112-1077774096]

Dalglish, do you have insomnia today? 

[Dalglish]

Insomnia ? Have you seen the way we are playing and you ask if i'm sleeping well

Truth be known , its the baby, he's teething , got a cold and full of wind

Which reminds me hows Biscan these days

[Dalglish]

Going to hit the hay mate , goodnight to one and all

[112-1077774096]

nite nite 

[chindianred]

cudn't have been put better. bottomline, u can't wear an oversized glove if u want a good fit
lfc have got to realise that spending money wisely means getting the right players, not just any available player
if we can't get what we really want, then keep exposing the youth players and who knows..... all of our greatest players emerged from the youth system don't need any reminding on that
all in all, a cool head, a quick eye and zipadidoodahh.....
we have a true top team ..... back where we shd be all along