Liverpool FC Forum

[LittleHobo]

berbatov is better but he defo has an attitude that i dont like

a miserable cuunt but also a genius in the mould of eric cantona

kuyt is a great guy and would die for the club in terms of workrate

on that basis i choose berbatov haha

[kazza]

I'd take Kuyt because he is a Liverpool player and as long as he fights hard for the team (which he does) he will always have my vote.

[Yessicajax]

Berbatov...
easy choice;)

[Ace Ventura]

There's no one who deserves to be a success more than Kuyt he works hard and seems to have great character and be a genuinely nice down to earth bloke. The unfortunate thing is, in my opinion he just isn't prolific or creative enough. Last season lots of people were saying how he would score 20 goals this season. Maybe if we get 15 or so more penalties he will. Other than that if Rafa persists in picking him I think he will cost us our chance of the title.

Yes he works hard, other than that he is very very average and I can think of many many strikers who would do a much better job than he is doing.

Berbatov is a t0sser, but lets get the goals thing out of the way

Kuyt       19 goals in 61 appearances for Liverpool

Berbatov 26 goals in 65 appearances for Spurs

Yes they both scored the same number of LEAGUE goals last season but Berbatov SCORED A LOT MORE GOALS IN OTHER COMPETITIONS. ie Berbatov scored 23 goals for Spurs last season Kuyt scored 14.

I can't say that either would be top of my list for a place in our starting line up but if I had to choose I would probably go with Berbatov as he seems to be a better all round striker.

But the other competitions would of been the Uefa cup...and the league cup where Spurs went to the semis. So hardly the best standard to compare the two really.
I think its easy to knock Kuyt at the moment, he is a very easy target.
ken_job i agree with you...at this moment and time he shouldnt be in the side. But i genuinley believe he has far more to show than we have seen so far.

[account deleted by request]

There's no one who deserves to be a success more than Kuyt he works hard and seems to have great character and be a genuinely nice down to earth bloke. The unfortunate thing is, in my opinion he just isn't prolific or creative enough. Last season lots of people were saying how he would score 20 goals this season. Maybe if we get 15 or so more penalties he will. Other than that if Rafa persists in picking him I think he will cost us our chance of the title.

Yes he works hard, other than that he is very very average and I can think of many many strikers who would do a much better job than he is doing.

Berbatov is a t0sser, but lets get the goals thing out of the way

Kuyt       19 goals in 61 appearances for Liverpool

Berbatov 26 goals in 65 appearances for Spurs

Yes they both scored the same number of LEAGUE goals last season but Berbatov SCORED A LOT MORE GOALS IN OTHER COMPETITIONS. ie Berbatov scored 23 goals for Spurs last season Kuyt scored 14.

I can't say that either would be top of my list for a place in our starting line up but if I had to choose I would probably go with Berbatov as he seems to be a better all round striker.

But the other competitions would of been the Uefa cup...and the league cup where Spurs went to the semis. So hardly the best standard to compare the two really.
I think its easy to knock Kuyt at the moment, he is a very easy target.
ken_job i agree with you...at this moment and time he shouldnt be in the side. But i genuinley believe he has far more to show than we have seen so far.

And the fact that Kuyt also played in the League cup but never scored, and played in almost if not every European cup match up to and including the final, but only scored one goal somehow makes him better? 

[Kharhaz]

I chose Kuyt, his attitude off the pitch is admirable with the way he conducts himself and offers a part of the money he makes to charity so for that he gets my vote.

[redtrader74]

IMHO Kuyt puts in too much effort, if thats possible, in defending and dropping deep. I think that strikers can work too hard and therefore in a quick and physical league, like the EPL which is physically the most demanding, it will take the edge off his sharpness infront of goal, where he often looks heavy legged and never seems to get that half a second or yard. Now i know that Rushie defended and pressurised from the front, but i cannot remember him ever dropping back into midfield, not at his peak, he pressed in the final third. Recently i have noticed that in the 18yd box he is also static and on his heels, maybe a lack of confidence, or just shattered having covered every blade of grass.


If form and injury (or rotation) put him back in the team then i would like to see him playing further up, in the STRIKER role, because thats what he is, and not dropping too deep, i am sure he would score more, also he has hit the bar/post more than anyone i can think of.

Technically Berbatov is a better player, and is more creative, but if the reports of his attitude are anything to go by, then he would not benefit the team, and Kuyt would be a better bet imo.

[account deleted by request]

I chose Kuyt, his attitude off the pitch is admirable with the way he conducts himself and offers a part of the money he makes to charity so for that he gets my vote.

by that reckoning we should be playing Paul Getty the third up front. He gives more money to charity than Kuyt and is supposed to be a nice bloke as well ! 

[Kharhaz]

I chose Kuyt, his attitude off the pitch is admirable with the way he conducts himself and offers a part of the money he makes to charity so for that he gets my vote.

by that reckoning we should be playing Paul Getty the third up front. He gives more money to charity than Kuyt and is supposed to be a nice bloke as well ! 

I absolutely refuse to believe its the lowest form of wit !

[destro]

No brainer for me Goals win games and Berbatov is a better finisher and creator than Kuyt.

[account deleted by request]

I chose Kuyt, his attitude off the pitch is admirable with the way he conducts himself and offers a part of the money he makes to charity so for that he gets my vote.

by that reckoning we should be playing Paul Getty the third up front. He gives more money to charity than Kuyt and is supposed to be a nice bloke as well ! 

I absolutely refuse to believe its the lowest form of wit !

[ivor_the_injun]

Ideally, I'd like some scientist to graft genetic material from Kuyt together with similar from Berbatov, and create a hybrid containing Kuyt's attitude and work ethic along with Berbatov's talent. And then sign up the results as soon as is humanly possible.

Bottom line is that neither player is a perfect solution for a club like Liverpool. Kuyt was a big fish in a little pond, but now he's a minnow in an ocean full of sharks, and his weaknesses and failings have been magnified a million times over. He has a really good attitude, and you can see how furious he is with his own form. These are good things. He also, however, runs into corners with his head down, and all too often he looks like he couldn't hit the Shankly gates with a beach ball.

Berbatov on the other hand had an iffy career with decent fits and starts, then found a bit of consistency, and eventually got his break in England at Spurs. However, after a good first season he's suddenly put his prima donna hat on and he's acting like a player that's consistently churned out the goods at the top level for a decade.

There's no doubt in my mind that Berbatov is talented enough to do a job at a top 4 club. But is good enough to - say - be in Utd's first 11? Is he in the league of the likes of Drogba, Rooney or Torres? For me, not quite.

On the other hand, neither is Kuyt. And this league isn't a place where nice guys necessarily finish first. Louis Saha would be ahead of Kuyt at Utd. For that matter, Alan Smith would probably have been ahead of Kuyt if he was still at Utd. The reality is that we can only wait so long for the guy to find his shooting boots before he starts to look like the reason we're not kicking on. The strikers berths are vital to the squad, and if we're carrying a passenger in one of them, we'll get found out over a league title campaign.

To be perfectly honest with you, quite frankly I'd be happy to have neither.

[Kharhaz]

Ive said it before and i'll say it again,I think Kuyt could easily be converted into a midfielder. His work rate is brilliant but his finishing...well...isnt ! We could convert him into an attacking midfielder to replace Gerrard when he is injured, although not in the same class technically they both work hard and I believe Kuyt could easily adopt that position.

[ivor_the_injun]

Surely though, there's really no room for Kuyt at the club if you're going to try and convince him his future is as a midfielder?

[Kharhaz]

Surely though, there's really no room for Kuyt at the club if you're going to try and convince him his future is as a midfielder?

As a striker and attacking midfielder I do believe there is. Who in the squad is capable of replacing Gerrard in the forward midfield role?