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Postby aCe' » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:01 am

Was just thinking about it Kev...  such quality players now in such a crappy club !
Yea...i think out attack is still looking shaky and we need atleast one more player that can command a first team spot in the forward line !
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Postby davo_LFC » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:08 am

garcia!!!! :D Need look no further, as bob said its his best position and towards the end of last season he was quality playing there. It allows him to take up dangerous positions, feed off the scraps, link the midfield to attack, try his fancy tricks without them being too risky. garcia is the man for the 4th striker spot if we cant afford a top class striker. He'll score goals, defo :;):
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Postby anfieldadorer » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:35 pm

regarding the duff "failure" in toon's perspective (from their site)

Mourinho Fears Reds Backlash 

The Republic of Ireland winger passed a medical on Tyneside and signed a five-year contract. And although Liverpool and Tottenham were in the race at the death, Mourinho didn't want the player to go to a side he feels could be challenging him for the Premiership, or to his near neighbours.

Duff was a £17million signing from Blackburn in 2003, and although he has been a success with the Blues (with two Premiership medals to prove it) he didn't fancy a 'bit part' at Stamford Bridge next season.

Mourinho, on the other hand, refused the offer by Liverpool, knowing full well this could be a player who could come back and haunt him.

Liverpool's loss - Newcastle's gain.
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Postby davo_LFC » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:42 pm

I knew that was the reason, fu.ckin knew it. That was the only way that duff was ever gonna choose them over us, because he had no other choice and if he said nar to the barcodes he'd be gettin splinters in his @rse for the whole of the season.
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Postby tubby » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:05 pm

davo_LFC wrote:I knew that was the reason, fu.ckin knew it. That was the only way that duff was ever gonna choose them over us, because he had no other choice and if he said nar to the barcodes he'd be gettin splinters in his @rse for the whole of the season.

I wouldnt be too upset. Mourinho is yet again exhibiting the fact that he is just as childish as when he first took over Chelsea.

The fact that he denied our bid makes it obvious that he fears our progression.

:censored: Mourinho and :censored: Duff !!!

Come the end of the season im certain Abramovich and Mourinho will scratching their heads at the sight of us again.

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Postby puroresu » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:09 pm

Im not surprised Mourinho didnt sell him to us just like he would never sell SWP to us.  Their is no way he will talented players to his main rivals.  I dont like that but dont disagree with it.  Arsenal would never of let Henry go to chelsea for instance.
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Postby tubby » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:20 pm

puroresu wrote:Im not surprised Mourinho didnt sell him to us just like he would never sell SWP to us.  Their is no way he will talented players to his main rivals.  I dont like that but dont disagree with it.  Arsenal would never of let Henry go to chelsea for instance.

Thats not always true mate.

What about -

Figo from Barca to Madrid.

Vieri from Lazio to Inter
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Postby davo_LFC » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:31 pm

bavlondon wrote:
davo_LFC wrote:I knew that was the reason, fu.ckin knew it. That was the only way that duff was ever gonna choose them over us, because he had no other choice and if he said nar to the barcodes he'd be gettin splinters in his @rse for the whole of the season.

I wouldnt be too upset. Mourinho is yet again exhibiting the fact that he is just as childish as when he first took over Chelsea.

The fact that he denied our bid makes it obvious that he fears our progression.

:censored: Mourinho and :censored: Duff !!!

Come the end of the season im certain Abramovich and Mourinho will scratching their heads at the sight of us again.

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Am not upset bav, i just dont like the way the press are making out that duff CHOSE the barcodes over us when infact he was forced to, thats what pi$$es me off.

Am disappointed that we never got him coz theres no doubting his ability but am not entirely convinced that rafa was that interested. Perhaps he knew that chavski would not ina million years accept a bid from their biggest rivals for a player that would possibly come back to haunt them. I know everyone keeps saying about smokescreens an that with every fu.cker that we're linked with but i reckon this could be one coz am convinced that alves is the man that rafa really wants.

Chavski are within the rights to stop him from joining us coz hes their player and they obviously dont want to make their biggest rivals any stronger but i cant stand the way the press chat sh.it and try to make us look like knobheads.
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Postby Bad Bob » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:54 pm

anfieldadorer wrote:regarding the duff "failure" in toon's perspective (from their site)

Mourinho Fears Reds Backlash 

The Republic of Ireland winger passed a medical on Tyneside and signed a five-year contract. And although Liverpool and Tottenham were in the race at the death, Mourinho didn't want the player to go to a side he feels could be challenging him for the Premiership, or to his near neighbours.

Duff was a £17million signing from Blackburn in 2003, and although he has been a success with the Blues (with two Premiership medals to prove it) he didn't fancy a 'bit part' at Stamford Bridge next season.

Mourinho, on the other hand, refused the offer by Liverpool, knowing full well this could be a player who could come back and haunt him.

Liverpool's loss - Newcastle's gain.

This account doesn't seem to square with what Liverpool uppity-ups are saying (at least as reported on Soccernet):

"...The move for Pennant is expected later this week, with Liverpool still distancing themselves from claims they were on the brink of landing Damien Duff ahead of his move to Newcastle. Liverpool sources claim they were `offered' the player but did not make a bid. Either way, the club will now certainly move on to Pennant."

This seems a likely scenario to me.  I don't doubt that Chelsea would have preferred DD not come to Liverpool but if he dug in a bit it might have come off.  The more likely situation is that we didn't want him.  Rafa is not one to tear up the game plan to pursue a name.  He probably didn't see Duff fitting into the squad given he's predominantly a LM.  As such, he declined.

The point is, it's not that we were in for him and were rebuffed.  We didn't want him in the first place!
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Postby Sabre » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:56 pm

Sabre and I were discussing Garcia a couple months back.   We both felt that Little Luis is never a wide player but he would be a very effective second striker.  Kewell, when fit, can also do a job there (as he did for Australia) and, of course, there's always the option of pushing Stevie forward.  And, let's not forget FSP--who always seems to be overlooked but can play a bit on his day!

Point is, should we fail to bring in another striker this summer I will not be gutted.  Should our RM search prove fruitless, however, I'll be quite a bit more nervous because, although Stevie was tremendous out wide last season, we need cover there and a player that can offer "different things"--as Rafa would say--on the right flank.



The RM position is the one that worries me most, but now that I think of it, I sense Rafa has the situation under control.

Remember Victor? he was about to sign up us in December, and that didn't happen because he was asking some money Depor owed him and he was not ready to give up to that money. Victor, with his contract finnished could be training in Anfield as we speak right now, but he isn't. I guess that means Rafa has some sort of plan for that position and that he expects some other quality player will be here before September. There will always time to go for a plan B a la Victor.
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Postby lilopajo » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:42 pm

rafa is restricted on spending big money but if papers are right kuyt could be on his way,will liverpool give in to the mighty madrid and sell alonso??? lets all remember rafa has done us proud so far so let us put our trust in him..come on liverpool..
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Postby marcus.c » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:48 pm

I think there is no point in rushing into the market just to buy someone to fill up the gap. If the player is more interested in his salary, den i say we shldn't get this sort of player.

RB is not managing a football club for the first time. He has vast experience and he knows what he is looking for. I rather we be a bit caution and patient den to being pressure by the fans to get a player just to fill in the gap.
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Postby ivor_the_injun » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:25 pm

If we hadn't brought in Gonzalez, I'd have loved to have had Duff.

With Speedy and Kewell though, we don't really need him.

And to be honest, £3.9m for Gonzalez looks a lot better business to me than £10m for Duff. How screwed will Newcastle be if his old injuries flare up again?

We already have a good-looking squad for next season. If we bring in either Pennant or Kuyt, it'll be a very promising season. If we bring in both, we'll have good depth in every position, and we'll be a seriously formidable proposition.
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Postby aCe' » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:12 pm

I'd rather we get Camoranesi and Trezeguet (both of which would command first team slots) ... but thats not looking good since Roma are offering big money for trezeguet and Lyon seem to be more serious in their bid for camoranesi !
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Postby The_Rock » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:34 pm

i have a feeling rafa will finally sign alves by next week.... Just have this feeling...  :D
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