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by **lakes10** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:32 pm

bet we get man u

by **Starbridge42** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:32 pm

our youngsters hav now beaten a full strength tottenham and an almost-full-strength middlesborough, how good is this? maybe we should give some more opportunities to these young lads, to be fair tho we probably didnt actually deserve to win because spurs did play better but Im not complaining a win is a win and hopefully the lads can keep this run going. Biscan was excellent and Welsh was quite impressive, partridge offered something immediately and young raven did exceptionally well in his senior debut at no point looking out of place.

by **chiggz_likes_owen** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:32 pm

what a game, our youngsters beat spurs which were at a full strength

by **lakes10** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:33 pm

watford lol

by **Santa** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:33 pm

Best sight of the day...a proud Benitez saluting his youngster and the travelling supporters. Despite our obvious inexperience, we battle hard. Well done indeed lads

by **lakes10** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:34 pm

watford i think will still be a hard game

by **RedorDead** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:35 pm

Not as hard as Man Utd or Chelsea though

by **A.B.** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:36 pm

THE FUTURE IS R------E---------D

by **Santa** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:36 pm

Starbridge42 wrote:our youngsters hav now beaten a full strength tottenham and an almost-full-strength middlesborough, how good is this? maybe we should give some more opportunities to these young lads, to be fair tho we probably didnt actually deserve to win because spurs did play better but Im not complaining a win is a win and hopefully the lads can keep this run going. Biscan was excellent and Welsh was quite impressive, partridge offered something immediately and young raven did exceptionally well in his senior debut at no point looking out of place.

Blame me for being critical, but young Raven did play Kanoute onside, and failed to close down Dafoe who scored. But overall, he did well, especially "THAT" last ditch tackle on Dafoe who was 1-on-1 with Dudek.

by **Igor Zidane** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:36 pm

I honestly think he's got to stick with the youngsters they all deserve it.

by **L-type** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:43 am

Igor Zidane wrote:I honestly think he's got to stick with the youngsters they all deserve it.

It depends on Benitz's mentality. If he decides it is an important chance to win some silverware he may field some veterans, but the more likely scenario is that he sticks with the men that got him here. They do deserve it.

by **bigmick** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:54 am

Got to briefly take issue with you Santa on the Raven mistakes. Don't get me wrong I don't know the kid but I think you've been harsh on both counts. On the offside, I actually think Whitbread does the wrong thing by stepping out and also doesn't step out early or far enough. You should only ever really step out if you are fairly sure you are the last man (its not synchronised swimming after all) and in doing so, it has to be a couple of paces to give some daylight and a chance of a decision. My read was that had Raven not been behind Whitbread then Kanoute still may have got the nod, it was that tight. Also, given that Raven had his own man to pick up, it was unreasonable to expect him to be able to co-ordinate the step.
On the actual finish, I think you have to give credit to Defoe for some very good, if elementary movement. Raven left on his own is obviously reluctant to get drawn to near post as this would result in a pass beyond him and an easy finish. He feels more comfortable in an impossible situation when he can get himself inbetween Kanoute and Defoe. However, if he allows Defoe to pull too far off him, he has a further problem. So, as he sees Defoe begin to backtrack out of the corner of his eye (remember his focus is on the ball-carrier, Kanoute) he takes a corrective backward step. This is the trigger for Defoe to attack the near-post at pace. The combo of defender having to re-adjust to go back forwards and Defoe arriving at 100 miles an hour is too much, pass is well wieghted and finish exemplarary. A good striker doing the basics right. Don't think you can blame Raven though.
When he's a bit older he may fient to backtrack and second guess Defoe will go near post. Even then though he may get it wrong. Sorry to pick up on it but thats how I see it anyhow.

by **bigmick** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:57 am

Jeez thats wierd. I posted something and its disappeared. Even says I posted it on the board index but its gone. Computers eh?

by **SouthernScouser** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:00 am

yeah
let's hope he keeps faith with the youngsters
then they've got something to really play for this season as well
will give some of the first team a break
but I reckon they should make them all travel to see the youngsters in the Semi - show them what's breathing down their necks
COME ON YOU REDS

by **Ciggy** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:32 am

Its really a big dilema for Rafa cause Watford wont lay down and could beat us very easy they have nothing to loose.
What do you do?
Play Gerrard for Diao, Carra for Henchoz if hes still there come january which I doubt.
Baros on the bench?
If we get to the final.
And we get chelsea there is no way rafa could play the kids wed get tonked 10-0 by chelseas second team.
But the kids will be gutted saying we got this far its our cup :glare:

.
What do you do in that situation?
We need all the silverware we can get doesnt matter if its from a sh.itty cup its more in our trophey cabinet.
And a cup under rafas belt first season if we won it.
What will he do?

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