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[zarababe]

I miss this 
Fernando get well soon.

go back to your Mancsh'te site - where are all these wums coming from Mods 

Zarababe, I think you misinterpreted it.

I missed what - you blaming Rafa for Torres' injury 

Stink of Mancsh'ite Al

[Alex G.]

-The style of game that Rafa asks of Torres with continuous explosive runs at the back of the defence (stopped - explosive run, stopped - explosive run).

Kinell, now Rafa gets blamed because Torres injured himself playing his natural game?  I suppose Rafa should get all the credit for Torres 30+ goals last season, then, since he trained him to do all that explosive starting and stopping?  The mind truly boggles. 

It´s just my opinion but I think is a "dangerous style", especially for the muscle injuries.
So, if we can´t blame on Rafa for it, what can we blame on the Spain team??.

It's not that the Spanish team is causing his injuries, it's just the amount of travel associated with international games and the additional minutes on the pitch that he doesn't need at the moment.  The last outing was especially frustrating, as it was a friendly and Torres was just coming back from a recurrence of his hamstring injury.  Spain should have left him at home to rest and recover.

But, back to my original point--his explosive starting and stopping is part of Torres' natural game.  It's not as though Rafa trained him to play that way.  If he could train that kind of thing, I think he might have been giving Kuyt, Keane and Babel a lot more work to do at Melwood.

He played only 30 minutes with Spain, and he got injured against Marseille, playing 90 minutes upfront on his own. Maybe that´s his natural game because of his pace, but it doesn´t mean that is not dangerous for his legs.

Yes, it's dangerous. That's why footballers get hamstring injuries and I don't.

You can't think much about it. Sometimes you'll get a player that until 28 he's spotless when it comes to injuries and then  a nightmare of injuries start.

I'm pretty sure the doctors said everything was ok when he was allowed back aswell. This things happen and we can't seek for many culprits.

Spain? you could talk about the extra games and different exercises in training, but I think it's trying to find a reason to probable mere bad luck. For what is worth, I'd preffer Torres wouldn't play a single friendly, but that's a lost battle.

Mind you, Rafa is starting to voice his concerns in Spain, like in the last game before the injury. And you could see by the reaction that people here won't give a fúck about how our manager is concerned about it. Actually the best chance we have is that Del Bosque and Rafa get along pretty well, and I'm sure given the circunstamces Del Bosque won't risk Torres again. In fact, many commented that him playing Torres only 30 minutes was a favour to Rafa.

As I said, it´s just my opinion, one opinion of thousands, but I have watched carefully how he plays since he arrived to Liverpool.
He never plays back to the goal, keeping and protecting the ball as a "pure 9" (Berbatov, Drogba, ect), he waits all the time the final pass to the space (mainly from Gerrard) and starts with his explosive run.
In Spain he touched more the ball, but in England he´s running and running all the time in that way.

[Alex G.]

I miss this 
Fernando get well soon.

go back to your Mancsh'te site - where are all these wums coming from Mods 

Zarababe, I think you misinterpreted it.

I missed what - you blaming Rafa for Torres' injury 

Stink of Mancsh'ite Al

Are you a sort of political comissar or something?

I´m a true Liverpool fan, and of course I hate the bloody mancs with passion.

[Sabre]

As I said, it´s just my opinion, one opinion of thousands, but I have watched carefully how he plays since he arrived to Liverpool.
He never plays back to the goal, keeping and protecting the ball as a "pure 9" (Berbatov, Drogba, ect), he waits all the time the final pass to the space (mainly from Gerrard) and starts with his explosive run.
In Spain he touched more the ball, but in England he´s running and running all the time in that way.

I see what you're saying, explosive movements mean a bit more risk for that muscles, but there have been thousands of players that based their game in that kind of movements and hadn't ever a problem, so we shouldn't expect Torres changing his game one iota. If you see what I mean.

BTW, give the lad some time before insulting him calling him a manc so early! If he was, we'd know sooner rather than later so there's no need to start an interrogation for making a point we disagree.

P.S. Plus, I got a P.M of him in perfect Spanish, he's a Spaniard like me.

P.S. Despite him being a red, he has a soft spot for Athletic Bilbao. Ban him! . Nah, he seems a good lad.

[maypaxvobiscum]

Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez has revealed that Fernando Torres is set to play again this year.

The Spanish striker had suffered a hamstring problem against Marseille on November 26 and was subsequently ruled out for up to three weeks.

However, recent reports claimed that the former Atletico Madrid star will only return to action in the New Year and Benitez has swiftly moved to dismiss the speculation.

"Fernando is progressing and improving so hopefully he will be back sooner rather than later," Benitez told the club's official website.

"It's just a question of waiting and not pressuring the player. I was with him today and he was okay.

"He has a lot of confidence now and when you have confidence, you can be fitter sooner.

"Everything is going well and I think it will be more or less the time we said before - maybe less."

[Greavesie]

hopefully that means he will be ready and is not being rushed

[Octsky]

Sucks that no matter how good the rest of the season is, Torres will not have lived up to his first season at the club

He should retire from International Football

I don´t think the Torres injury is because of the international games.
Benitez tries to be too clever with all of this, but he should do more self-criticism. I´m not a fitness expert but...my opinion:

-The style of game that Rafa asks of Torres with continuous explosive runs at the back of the defence (stopped - explosive run, stopped - explosive run).

-The Torres diet could be a key factor to bear it in mind as well. I think he should gain weight and be stronger than he is now.

stop explosive runs? that is like asking peter couch not to head the ball. torres pace is a big part of his game, take away that and it is like fighting unarmed.

i second the suggestion for him to quit international football, coz it will be another 50 yrs before spain wins anything.

[Madmax]

Sucks that no matter how good the rest of the season is, Torres will not have lived up to his first season at the club

He should retire from International Football

I don´t think the Torres injury is because of the international games.
Benitez tries to be too clever with all of this, but he should do more self-criticism. I´m not a fitness expert but...my opinion:

-The style of game that Rafa asks of Torres with continuous explosive runs at the back of the defence (stopped - explosive run, stopped - explosive run).

-The Torres diet could be a key factor to bear it in mind as well. I think he should gain weight and be stronger than he is now.

stop explosive runs? that is like asking peter couch not to head the ball. torres pace is a big part of his game, take away that and it is like fighting unarmed.

i second the suggestion for him to quit international football, coz it will be another 50 yrs before spain wins anything.

exactly. without his explosive runs he will be half the striker he is now.

[Ciggy]

31st of December 

http://www.physioroom.com/news....ble.php

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Main thing is he is fit when he comes back. We can't afford for him to do it again.

[roberto green]

Has anyone got any news of when Fernando is back?

[metalhead]

torres

please come back nino   

[Alex G.]

I don´t think he will be ready for the Arsenal game.

[Rush Job]

Looks like we will be at full strengh come the new year.
As I said when Torres first got injured if we are still top when he comes back we've got a great chance.

[club_Levis]

Any news on how far our ace striker is from full fitness?..Is he back to full training...Pictures are also welcome.