Liverpool FC Forum

[holylamb2006]

Ill be honest I couldnt give 2 fu.cks about Grant, Fergie, Wenger or any other manager other than ours. I couldnt give a fu.ck about anyone or anything other than Liverpool and our fortunes this season. Fu.ck giving credit to any other cu.nting manager. The way I see it we have managed to fight our way back into this title race somehow after we were ruled out completely. We are also in yet anothe Champions League Quarter Final with an excellent chance of going all the way. Fu.ck the other managers doesntour manager deserve some credit?

Exactly give our manager some appreciation

[Yari7]

This is what Chelsea and Man Utd are able to do better than us and thats why they are challening for the title and we are not

Who said we arent challenging for the title ??

If you still think we are in the title race, then fair enough.

Dont you? Wheres your faith in our team?

It is a possibility. I still have hope, but when looking at things realistically, we are too far behind. For us to win, it would mean that we have to go on our best run ever (Winning 13 games in a row) and Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal would all have to slip into their worst patch of form in years all at the same time.

Man Utd have Bolton to come on Wednesday, should they win, they will go 11 points clear.

If Man Utd draw or lose with Bolton, a we beat Man Utd on Sunday with Chelsea and Arsenal drawing, then I would say that we are in the title race.

But to be honest, I am more concerned with 4th spot as Everton are still hot on our heels.

[holylamb2006]

But to be honest, I am more concerned with 4th spot as Everton are still hot on our heels.

But by going for the premiership wouldnt that mean we'll finish before everton ??

Why go for fourth wen 1st might just be there .

[Yari7]

But to be honest, I am more concerned with 4th spot as Everton are still hot on our heels.

But by going for the premiership wouldnt that mean we'll finish before everton ??

Why go for fourth wen 1st might just be there .

Going for first means we have no room for slip ups. And sometimees, trying to not slip up, makes you more vunerable to slipping up.

Like Rafa says, lets take one game at a time, try to get 3 points with each game and see where we are after each game.

[holylamb2006]

Going for first means we have no room for slip ups. And sometimees, trying to not slip up, makes you more vunerable to slipping up

So ur saying that by going for 4th we might not slip up that much if going for first.

No i dnt agree..... players want to always win , why not put some belief into the team by saying ''we might just nick it put a good performance in here we have a chance'' instead of saying ''right lads we're going to settle on fourth so try ur best''

We need all the encouragement we can get to keep this form going and by saying we're still challenging for the title then that might be the kick we need to beat arsenal everton manu etc

[Yari7]

Going for first means we have no room for slip ups. And sometimees, trying to not slip up, makes you more vunerable to slipping up

So ur saying that by going for 4th we might not slip up that much if going for first.

No i dnt agree..... players want to always win , why not put some belief into the team by saying ''we might just nick it put a good performance in here we have a chance'' instead of saying ''right lads we're going to settle on fourth so try ur best''

Let me give you an example. It's 1-1 at Old Trafford on Sunday with 10 mins to go. If we are trying to win the Premiership, we must attack  and get a goal to make it 2-1 as only a win will do. But doing this will leave us open to the counter.

Do we go all out to get the winning goal and risk the deadly counter that could cost us the game, or do we sit back and  settle for the draw in the quest for 4th spot?


Like Rafa says, one game at a time. We obviously go into each game trying to win.

[holylamb2006]

Do we go all out to get the winning goal and risk the deadly counter that could cost us the game, or do we sit back and  settle for the draw in the quest for 4th spot?

Go for it!!!!

Everton lost to Fulham there .... So if we did lose it wouldnt be the end of 4th place .. It just means we would have to beat them at Anfield to put a 3 point gap between us again .

[Redman in wales]

well alrighty then why don't u start supporting chelsea , if u can't stand by ur club . End of .

err no. i dont think so.

I can, and will support my club through thick and thin mate.

dont start doubting someones loyalty to the club because they think that another team will win the title. You gonna question st mick, rafa-dodd, leon because they dont think we'll win the league this season either?... I was just being realistic.

My point is chelsea are in a better position and have a better chance of winning it. end of.

I don't question them as , they stick by their club , they don't say this or that , they don't defend another manager especially grant who does not deserve credit , i agree wenger and ferguson do get credit from them but they earned it . Grant has not . Lets end this discussion here mate , u're a red , i am a red thats all that matters

thats cool mate. we'll end it there.

I may have been defending chelsea a bit too much, but it was more the team than the manager, talking about their wins and points ahead of us, rather than talking about grants tactcal nous, - doesnt matter who's in charge at the the end of the day, if they're 5 (or perhaps 8 on wed) points ahead, they have the advantage over us.



there's no shaking hands smiley, so i'll just say

[maypaxvobiscum]

yari if u had a chance to climb the ladder or stick where u are what will u do? i will risk climbing the ladder and even if i fall it might just mean me growing wings to fly.

[Yari7]

yari if u had a chance to climb the ladder or stick where u are what will u do? i will risk climbing the ladder and even if i fall it might just mean me growing wings to fly.

It epends on the situation. As a manager, I would go into every game to win but by the 80th minute, depending on the situation, I may opt to hold out for a draw.

If you try to climb too high, you may fall off the ladder.

We will go into the Untied game trying to win, but by the 80th minute, hangign on for a draw may be the smarter option if we are playing for 4th spot that is.

We musnt look past Everton. They are a good team who are still hot on our heels. The most realistic option is that we focus on getting 3 points to keep the pressure on Everton.

By Sunday, we will know for sure if we are in the title race again or not.

[god_bless_john_houlding]

yari if u had a chance to climb the ladder or stick where u are what will u do? i will risk climbing the ladder and even if i fall it might just mean me growing wings to fly.

It epends on the situation. As a manager, I would go into every game to win but by the 80th minute, depending on the situation, I may opt to hold out for a draw.

If you try to climb too high, you may fall off the ladder.

We will go into the Untied game trying to win, but by the 80th minute, hangign on for a draw may be the smarter option if we are playing for 4th spot that is.

We musnt look past Everton. They are a good team who are still hot on our heels. The most realistic option is that we focus on getting 3 points to keep the pressure on Everton.

By Sunday, we will know for sure if we are in the title race again or not.

So if we're 1-0 down with ten minutes left do we just sit back and say "well we'll still be above them on goal difference" because obviously if we try and equalise we might conceed a second a if it came down to goal difference we'd be kicking ourselves wouldn't we.

The reason we're even fighting for fourth is because we've tried to sit back rather than going to kill games off. If it's 1-1 then I'd expect the entire team to go out and make it 2-1 because I can guarentee you United would do the same if they were in our position. It gives you a pyschological advantage as well if you beat a side you're competing with.

[maypaxvobiscum]

yari if u had a chance to climb the ladder or stick where u are what will u do? i will risk climbing the ladder and even if i fall it might just mean me growing wings to fly.

It epends on the situation. As a manager, I would go into every game to win but by the 80th minute, depending on the situation, I may opt to hold out for a draw.

If you try to climb too high, you may fall off the ladder.

We will go into the Untied game trying to win, but by the 80th minute, hangign on for a draw may be the smarter option if we are playing for 4th spot that is.

We musnt look past Everton. They are a good team who are still hot on our heels. The most realistic option is that we focus on getting 3 points to keep the pressure on Everton.

By Sunday, we will know for sure if we are in the title race again or not.

So if we're 1-0 down with ten minutes left do we just sit back and say "well we'll still be above them on goal difference" because obviously if we try and equalise we might conceed a second a if it came down to goal difference we'd be kicking ourselves wouldn't we.

The reason we're even fighting for fourth is because we've tried to sit back rather than going to kill games off. If it's 1-1 then I'd expect the entire team to go out and make it 2-1 because I can guarentee you United would do the same if they were in our position. It gives you a pyschological advantage as well if you beat a side you're competing with.

just like in the game against inter where kuyt wanted to protect the 1-0 lead but we got another goal as a result of pushing forward.

[The Manhattan Project]

If we are one-nil up with ten minutes to go, we should keep things tight, slow the game down, break their stride and frustrate them.

We can attack but cautiously. What we cannot do is defend too deep because eventually they will get through. We have to be extra cautious on set-pieces too.

[holylamb2006]

Its 5:32 in Ireland and i havent got any sleep

So yes i would attack if it was 1-1

[maypaxvobiscum]

yeah. attack if we are not having any 3 points. just like in 300, or some other greek epic, its always more appreciated if u ''die in pride'' then let them whip u around.