s@int wrote:Lando_Griffin wrote:s@int wrote:When Blackburn won the title, they won it with 89 points in 1995. All the points total means is the best teams have got stronger at the expense of the weaker. Its the points difference that tells the more interesting stories.
I have never thought Rafa is a sh!t manager. I keep saying this...... I just don't like it when people knock our past managers to try to make Rafa look better. He has won the CL and the FA cup, he doesn't need people saying he's a better manager than Shankly etc. (which Lando has said BTW)
If Rafa's not good enough deriding previous managers won't make him look any better and if he is good enough there is no need anyway. I think its reasonable to compare Rafa to Houllier but not Dalglish, Paisley or Shankly.
Well I think you'll find I said that to counter the inane ramblings of someone who suggested you measure a manager on their first 3 years.
In that case, Rafa is MILES better than Shankly.
And regarding Dalglish - it's easier to sustain success than to get it in the first place.
I refer you to your "Dalglish signings" post:
Why no mention of the following?:
Barry Venison,
Don Hutchinson,
Steve Harkness,
Alan Irvine,
Mike Hooper,
Nick Tanner,
Barry Jones,
Robbie Holcroft, and
John Durnin?
Is it because they weren't roaring successes?
I am not trying to get at King Kenny - the bloke is a legend. I am merely pointing out that 1.) History tends to be very blinkered and favours the good things, and 2.) Rafa isn't being given a fair comparison by many of the knuckleheads on here.
But I digress.
No-one is ever going to make me believe that Rafa is anything other than a genius. You can all p*ss and whine as much as you like, and you can belittle him all you want.
Just be aware that I will be there, right behind you, p*ssing in your literary ear all the way.
Which Dalglish signings post ? I haven't mentioned any signings in this thread?
BTW Venison went on to play for England,he also won the league with Liverpool, bought for £200k sold for £250k, Hutchinson went on to play for Scotland, bought for £175k sold for £1.5million, Steve Harkness was a decent player who we signed for £75k and sold for £350k. WTF are you on about Lando?
Alan Irvine we bought for £75k and sold for £100k
John Durnin was a free signing ffs that we sold for £250K
Barry Jones cost £500 not £500k, five hundred pounds AND HOOPER WAS SIGNED BY FAGAN NOT DALGLISH.
I think the pressure has been a bit more than you could bear mate.
IS THAT REALLY THE BEST YOU COULD DO?
I only need to whisper the words Kuyt mate
You can believe whatever you want about Rafa being a genius, getting someone to agree with you is another matter entirely
As for Shankly - sometimes its better to be quiet and thought a fool Lando rather than open your mouth and prove it.
PS
Posted 24/1/2008 00:02
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Subject: Benitez to AC Milan
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Hello. I am New to this forum. I'm an American student studying at Liverpool John Moore's University, I heard a rumour from a friend who works at Anfield that Benitez is going to AC Milan. Done and dusted.
....i thought we we here to debate the rights and wrongs of our beloved club 
