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[109-1093441336]

I have optimism that cisse will parade another hairdo next week.

[mdawg]

Today is a huge failure for a simple reason.  For the past month, Benitez has said that he had to get a RM and CB, and he got neither.  He failed, and other teams improved, so today is a bad day for LFC.

[RedRoots]

Today is a huge failure for a simple reason.  For the past month, Benitez has said that he had to get a RM and CB, and he got neither.  He failed, and other teams improved, so today is a bad day for LFC.

Hey come on lets look on the the bright side!! we've got......... eerrr Potter......hold on a minute we are fukd!!  

[matrix]

I have optimism that cisse will parade another hairdo next week.

thats odds on some crack pot hairdo   

[109-1093441336]

he's got a sh.it load of tatts

you'd think he was well hard

Then he cries on TV and his image is gone out of the window

[A.B.]

things are about as low as you can get so shove your optimism. We are the Champions Of Europe and what do the board do? Expect rafa to perform another miracle?  It ain't happening! Spurs will get fourth and we will be fighting for fifth with everton bolton etc. One step forward two back.

Our transfer policy is probably the worst in the world when have we ever got a good deal off anybody. Probably only dalglish all them years ago. Macca zero, redknapp zero owen 8m collymore 8.5m diao 5m need i say more. We aint ruthless and have once again failed to capitilise on our position in world football. Utter

If you think that Tottenham Hotspurs will finish fourth after buying a bunch of "potential" English players then please give up on football right now. Do they have a good manager? Yes. Do they have a talented group of kids yes but this is another hyped up team. They have a team for the future but not solid enough to finish in the top four. They have 15000 central midfielders but lack cover and quality in certain positions.

Everton and Bolton will not have a repeat of last year. Especially Everton. If you think that Everton will "fight" for a fifth place finish then you buy yourself a new brain.  Both of these teams are in the UEFA Cup and it's going to hurt them as they have a small squad. Everton are having what they didn't have much of last year, and those are injuries. They won't be a surprise team anymore because now everyone knows how they play. They don't have the ability to play well using other formations so they are going to stick with 4-5-1.

A team that will be a suprise this year is Manchester City. I don't expect them to finish in the top four but they will have a good season even without Wright-Phillips.

[oOShrimpyOo]

i cant say i see anyone saying or making the assumption that we will be finishing in the bottom half of the table. People are disappointed on here because alot of us thought that we could potentially be title contenders this season. We do have a solid squad and better than most, but with a natural right winger and another CB i realistically thought we stood a slight chance of winning the league. We have a sloid squad but everyone can see the missing part of the jigsaw being the RW, the manager knows it, the board, and us as fans know this is a position that needs to be strengthened. Without a natural RW the team looks unbalanced. Ok so we all know we arent going to fill the RW postion, so we will have to move on, hope we do the business with what we have, and hope for no injuries to our CB's. Come january time if we havent done the business it will be too little too late IMO. realistically without the RWinger i dont think we will be challenging for the title this season, but as i said with the squad we have at hand we wont be finishing in the bottom half of the table, a top four finish is the most we can look forward to IMO, but i hope i am proved wrong.
I have also stated that although this sounds slightly "doom and gloom" as most of you put it, i will be cheering for the reds to win every game we play and they will recieve all my support whether they win the title or not, thats because i am a true LFC fan, being negative sometimes doesnt change that, we just have to be realistic sometimes.

[A.B.]

i cant say i see anyone saying or making the assumption that we will be finishing in the bottom half of the table. People are disappointed on here because alot of us thought that we could potentially be title contenders this season. We do have a solid squad and better than most, but with a natural right winger and another CB i realistically thought we stood a slight chance of winning the league

Even if we signed a CB and a RM it would be hard for us to compete with Chelsea who have two teams. Two quality players for every position.

[The Manhattan Project]

A 4th place finish and annual qualification for the CL.

A good performance in the Champions League.

A nice run in the FA Cup ( the Carling Cup).

Continued rebuilding and strengthening of the team and squad.

Good financial management for the the club.

Progress on the new stadium or re-developement of the existing one.

That would be satisfactory for me.

Not bankupting the club because other clubs try to make us pay ridiculous prices for players or trying to compete with a team owned by a man with unlimited resources.

The target should be Arsenal. Chelsea and Manchester United have more resources than us and are prolly out of reach, but Arsenal are within reach.

3rd place is the goal. Yes, I know it sounds because we want to win everything, but I'm trying to be realistic.

[oOShrimpyOo]

thats exactly why i stated and i quote " a slight chance" of winning the league.

[oOShrimpyOo]

A 4th place finish and annual qualification for the CL.

A good performance in the Champions League.

A nice run in the FA Cup ( the Carling Cup).

Continued rebuilding and strengthening of the team and squad.

Good financial management for the the club.

Progress on the new stadium or re-developement of the existing one.

That would be satisfactory for me.

Not bankupting the club because other clubs try to make us pay ridiculous prices for players or trying to compete with a team owned by a man with unlimited resources.

The target should be Arsenal. Chelsea and Manchester United have more resources than us and are prolly out of reach, but Arsenal are within reach.

3rd place is the goal. Yes, I know it sounds because we want to win everything, but I'm trying to be realistic.

sounds good to me, and i for one will be very happy with that. But as you may have already guessed some people on here are not as easily satisfied.

[RedorDead]

some people on here are not as easily satisfied

And some people on here are complete idiots

[philchampionsl2005]

there shouldn't be any worries rafa has done wonders at this club could u image 2 or 3 years ago, tricky sytlish players like ALonso, Garcia and Cisse at the club. Could we image we would have the best central midfielder in the world at the club, the best passer. One of the quickest players(cisse) at the club and most of all the European Cup. No one dreamed of us getting it so soon. We have the players, the best manager around for tactics and style. i'm not worried he has won the european squad with a worse squad then wot he had. He's got rid of mainly Smicer, Baros, Biscan who r the onli mains ones that where in the team last season. He's got a fully fit Cisse, a new strong keeper, a 7ft striker, the new vieira and the Best palyer in the world at the moment Steven Gerrad wat more do we need apart from the Preimership title. Sure we can't compete with chelsea in the transfer market but for me we more as compted with them last season on the field(against them), we are the only team that chelsea are scared of playing. Terry moans we don't want to go back to anfield , mourinho pulls a face when the prees tell him bout us. Rafa was the only manager that competed with him last season so beware. As fro manutd the onlyn thing they have over us personally is WAYne fat boy Rooney so if he gets injured there stuffed , arsenal to me look lost without vieira so why can't we challenge them on the field we have as gd startnXI as all three
come on you reds
YNWA

[L-type]

Some people's lack of intelligence on here is beyond belief. "We haven't signed him, get rid of the board and the manager." For crying out loud get a grip. 

Simao is the latest in a line of disapointing non-signings this summer. But I think we should all just relax and breathe for a minute or two. Yes it is frustrating that we havent signed any big players this summer. But i dont think its right to lay all the blame at the feet of Rafa and the board.

Last week Rafa said that as soon as we emerge as wanting to sign a player, that player has a price hike. This isnt our fault. Figo was all set to leave Real Madrid on a free. We pop into the equation and all of a sudden he has a £2m price tag on his bonce. Now Real were well within there rights to do that, after all he was under contract with them. But its not exactly sporting is it. Yes we could of paid it, but why should we when until we say we might want him hes free?

Gonzalez, we sign him and he is refused a work permit. Not the fault of LFC.

Owen, we tried to get him, but Real Madrid had an offer for twice as much as we were offering, and why should we pay twice as much for him as we got for him 12 months ago.

Simao, well we all know whats happened here. Last minute Benfica up the price. Again not exactly sporting is it.

SWP, I dont know if we ever did put a bid in for him. I know most of us on here wanted him tho. But as soon as Chavski offered £21m we all knew that there was no point. Hes just not worth that much.

I know there will be some that will say for gods sake just pay what the club are asking to get the player. But if we do it once then it will hapen all the time. And we dont want to get the reputation of the club that will pay any price for anyone. Thats Chavskis role.

I for one think we have been treated harshly this transfer window. By we, i mean LFC, not just the fans. At every turn it seems we have been cheated screwed and shafted up the wrong un one way or another.

I fail to subscribe to the theory that its all doom and gloom for us next season. We have one of the best managers in the world. Despite what some, well infact most, are saying. I dont think we will struggle for goals this season. Despite what some might say I think Cisse will get a hatfull this term. Whats his record so far? 5 in 7? Some may say "but its against micky mouse oposition" to which i reply. Well you can only beat whats in front of you. It dosent mean when he comes up against an arsenal or chavski he wont score. CSKA Moscow are the UEFA cup holders, and they dont give that away free with special packs of coco pops. Aside from Cisse we have Mori, sooner or later he just HAS to start scoring. He simply has to much ability not to. Plus we have Crouch, 6 month wonder some say. Maybe, but i will be surprised if he isnt in double figures at the end of the season. OR at the very least, close to it. Gerrard, well we all know he is going to be well into doube figures. Garcia will more than likely get a few, as will Alonso, hamman, riise, Sissoko. We have a squad of players that CAN score goals. Does it matter where they come from? as long as it hits the back of the net does it matter who scores them!

Even if all you doom mongerers are proved right and we do end up having a problem scoring goals. Look at our defence. Carra and Sami. 2 of the best in the business. Traore, VASTLY improved last season, and hopefully will get better again this year. Finnan, the almost forgotten one. Warnock, got his call up to the england squad, so cant be all that bad. Zak Whitbread, a real starlet. In front of them. Mr Consistent Hamman, and Alonso, plus Sissoko who seems to play just about anywhere.

Do we really have BIG problems in our squad?

Remember we are European Champions. The biggest and most prestigious title any club can win.
We still have the same manager and largely the same players that won us that title back in May.

Doom and gloom. A season of heartache and struggle ahead.
Not likley!!

WE ARE LIVERPOOL FC. EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS!

St MIKE, I have agreed with every word youve said today, everyone says its the end of the world, but get over it.  If our team was good last year, it's a whole lot better, with a perfectx of talent, potential, and premiership experience. 

We have a very deadly counter attack that starts with Reina, a new signing, who seems like he was a boxer in another life.  His punches and quick and impeccable distribution helped us equalize against Moscow, and forced Brough to play with 10 men for the rest of the game.

We have Sissoko who is doing brilliantly to take the reins from Hamman.  He is key because he gives Gerrard the license to move forward and play a more creative role that he thrives in, and can cover for Alonso's imperfect defending skills (he's getting better though)

We have crouch who may not be the most fashionable player, but thats why Benitez loves him.  He isn't looking for over rated and over the hill superstars, he's looking for people that fit the mould of a solid team, a bastion of invincibility.

We picked up zenden on a free, and people can criticize him all they want, but they need to understand that he is a stronger central mid, then a left wing.  We picked him up on a free, so lets  be happy he's here as he looks like a player who has alot to prove on the world stage.

We have a load of promising youngsters from around the globe,  Barragan is already well ahead of schedule playing for the reserves and just scored a game winning goal against WBA, and Miki Roque has been hailed as a solid defender.  In time all these youngsters will have their chance, and of course a few will never fullfil their initial promise, but in Roque, Barragan, and Hobbes we have some solid players, who are already playing well for the reserves.

[anfieldadorer]

to be fair, some additions would significantly improve our squad, at least in terms of the needs of quantity, but i believe Rafa is a genius who measures every step he takes and knows how to reach the best out of it. He did it with Valencia -a team once having no superstars as well as with ours getting through hard times during the unbelievable injuries, so stick with and be faith in him.