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[PabloAimar]

I fear Kenny is going to get a rough ride as manager with the players we currently have, if he has to keep picking certain individuals.

from what I have seen from our performances and defeats, players i would not play again this season (and possibly offload now) with my reasons are;

Poulsen + Lucas :- They keep giving the ball away, have no ability to pass creatively/ put strikers in on goal, or lay good balls off down the wing, create no chances and can't shoot on target when going forward.

Meireles: has no creativity, cant create chances, can only pass side to side, is 'average' by todays standards, and is nowhere near the class of xabi Alonso.

Kuyt: can't cross the ball, always goes for goal and misses badly instead of putting in torres, can only play short passes, no creativity.

N'gog: scores the odd goal, but not worthy of polishing robbie fowlers boots, doesn't do a lot in posession of the ball, not a good team player/ partner for torres, reserve team class at best.

Kyriakos (cant spell name, sorry). not a good tackler, loses posession, gets skinned easily, prefer skrtel and agger.

Konchesky: (See above) + no pace.

those players i would not see again in a red shirt, as all the games I have seen this season, the above problems always cost us winning the game. you could sell them all tommorow and i would give two hoots. we keep playing them , we are gonna be in big trouble come april/ may.

My line up would be most games (if i was the boss):


                reina

Johnson  Agger   Carra     Aurelio

Jovanovic  Gerrard   babel

            Cole
                 Torres

Subs:  Skrtel
          Shelvey
          Kelly
          etc etc

that team every week and we will win more than we lose.

That's why you'll never get taken seriously boy. Jovanovic...please.....

Also where is the defensive midfielder, don't say Gerrard either.

Lol FFS that has to be the sh!ttest line up ever. Haha

i agree, he's even got carra and agger the wrong way round. f*k me, there's a player missing too!

[brentd4]

I fear Kenny is going to get a rough ride as manager with the players we currently have, if he has to keep picking certain individuals.

from what I have seen from our performances and defeats, players i would not play again this season (and possibly offload now) with my reasons are;

Poulsen + Lucas :- They keep giving the ball away, have no ability to pass creatively/ put strikers in on goal, or lay good balls off down the wing, create no chances and can't shoot on target when going forward.

Meireles: has no creativity, cant create chances, can only pass side to side, is 'average' by todays standards, and is nowhere near the class of xabi Alonso.

Kuyt: can't cross the ball, always goes for goal and misses badly instead of putting in torres, can only play short passes, no creativity.

N'gog: scores the odd goal, but not worthy of polishing robbie fowlers boots, doesn't do a lot in posession of the ball, not a good team player/ partner for torres, reserve team class at best.

Kyriakos (cant spell name, sorry). not a good tackler, loses posession, gets skinned easily, prefer skrtel and agger.

Konchesky: (See above) + no pace.

those players i would not see again in a red shirt, as all the games I have seen this season, the above problems always cost us winning the game. you could sell them all tommorow and i would give two hoots. we keep playing them , we are gonna be in big trouble come april/ may.

My line up would be most games (if i was the boss):


                reina

Johnson  Agger   Carra     Aurelio

Jovanovic  Gerrard   babel

            Cole
                 Torres

Subs:  Skrtel
          Shelvey
          Kelly
          etc etc

that team every week and we will win more than we lose.

no harm but were awful with 11 how can we win with 10,,, although ush!ted cudnt score against us but id rather have 11

[brentd4]

Kenny Dalglish is getting criticised but to be fair he's only had the job a week and he's already equalled David Moyes' Everton trophy haul.

[Ben Patrick]

I fear Kenny is going to get a rough ride as manager with the players we currently have, if he has to keep picking certain individuals.

from what I have seen from our performances and defeats, players i would not play again this season (and possibly offload now) with my reasons are;

Poulsen + Lucas :- They keep giving the ball away, have no ability to pass creatively/ put strikers in on goal, or lay good balls off down the wing, create no chances and can't shoot on target when going forward.

Meireles: has no creativity, cant create chances, can only pass side to side, is 'average' by todays standards, and is nowhere near the class of xabi Alonso.

Kuyt: can't cross the ball, always goes for goal and misses badly instead of putting in torres, can only play short passes, no creativity.

N'gog: scores the odd goal, but not worthy of polishing robbie fowlers boots, doesn't do a lot in posession of the ball, not a good team player/ partner for torres, reserve team class at best.

Kyriakos (cant spell name, sorry). not a good tackler, loses posession, gets skinned easily, prefer skrtel and agger.

Konchesky: (See above) + no pace.

those players i would not see again in a red shirt, as all the games I have seen this season, the above problems always cost us winning the game. you could sell them all tommorow and i would give two hoots. we keep playing them , we are gonna be in big trouble come april/ may.

My line up would be most games (if i was the boss):


                reina

Johnson  Agger   Carra     Aurelio

Jovanovic  Gerrard   babel

            Cole
                 Torres

Subs:  Skrtel
          Shelvey
          Kelly
          etc etc

that team every week and we will win more than we lose.

your team only has 10 players 

[Kenny Kan]

Concerning Poulsen and Jovanovic, I think Kenny gave them a go for two reasons. The first being, to see if these two fellas could lift their game under him and to see whether him coming in could revive a decent performance from either. The second, because he wanted to go with the 4-2-3-1 formation and needed another DM as he opted to free up Merieles, plus its not as though he's got a great deal of personel to choose from. Same could be said with Jovanovic coming in, Babel was sidelined and is poo any way, the auld fella Maxi played at OT a few days before and again its not as though he's spoilt for choice regarding other options.

When we played Blackpool I thought at times our players' positions were like this:

                     Reina

Kelly       Skert       Agger    Johno

                   poulson

Kuyt      merieles     Lucas     Jovo

                   Torres

Lucas in the second half more so looked as though he was playing higher up the pitch, probably was because we were in need of a goal but that's how it looked to me at times. Jovo though was too narrow he didn't stretch the width and neither did Kuyt really. Ordinary looking team though isn't it?

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Tommy Smith: Kenny Dalglish is the right man to bring back Liverpool FC's fighting spirit
Liverpool EchoJan 15 2011

I’M glad the owners have made a painful but necessary change to the manager.

There is no question Kenny Dalglish was and is a winner.

He was a great player and manager last time around and I am sure he will soon improve the team.

He will know that this squad needs new faces and I hope the owners back him and let him bring in the right players.

But already one thing the new manager has spoken of is raising confidence and getting the lads playing for each other.

That is so important to real success.

That sixties team Bill Shankly built and which I was fortunate to be part of was not just a team of great players – but great friends as well.

Shanks would take us up to Blackpool half a dozen times a season where we’d stick together overnight and enjoy a drink and a meal. Then on Sunday he’d join us in the sauna to talk things over and then we’d meet again on Monday at Melwood and keep talking.

The point being we all became really good mates. And if there was ever a fall out, it was tasty and Shanks loved it. He’d say ‘If you’re like that with each other, then God help the opposition this weekend’.

If Kenny can bring that spirit and togetherness in, as well as some much-needed new faces, then I’m sure he’ll do well this time around.
Let’s make special derby day a memorable one

Derbies don’t need spicing up. They never have done and hopefully never will. But the return of Kenny Dalglish to Anfield a whirlwind week ago today has obviously added more than a touch of seasoning to tomorrow’s big match.

And it will be a riveting occasion for Liverpool fans because of that.

But for all the anticipation and the hype around, there is one hard fact. Merseyside football is at its lowest ebb for many a year.

The Reds have made their worst start to a top flight season for almost 60 years, but Everton have struggled badly for results too and are on the same number of points as us.

Certainly it’s not how it was when I played or when Dalglish did and then first took over as Liverpool manager after Joe Fagan in 1985.

That means that while we may have an action packed, pulsating game tomorrow, it may not be too pretty. Indeed it could be quite physical, and quality could be somewhat lacking. Thankfully no-one on Merseyside will really care a jot about that. Because all that matters on derby day in this city is getting the right result so you don’t have to go into hiding for a week!

For Dalglish’s sake on his return and for the sake of the fans, I’d enjoy it that bit more than usual if it does go Liverpool’s way. But right now I must admit it’s a big if.

The new boss has lifted them after flying in to take over but there are still frailties and many weaknesses in this squad.

Defensively we need to sharpen up and in the centre of the park we have to be far more combative.

But if the players do rise to the challenge and occasion, then the good news is Fernando Torres seems to be returning to form.

I just hope his team-mates get him in and give him the chances to finish as he did in midweek.

If they do, Torres looks in the mood to finish them. And I hope turn a special day at Anfield into a memorable one.
WE could not have got off to a better start against Blackpool.

A thumping goal from Fernando Torres should have been the signal for a cracking victory and revenge for what happened at Anfield this season.

But then we give the ball away – as we’ve been doing far too often – in midfield and suddenly the feelgood factor has gone at 1-1.

It’s in these situations where we really have to stick together, stand up and respond quickly.

When the opposition force a setback on us like that, we have to get straight back at them and make them pay, not whither in the face of disappointment.

Too often we’re feeling sorry for ourselves or cursing our luck when we should be getting angry – and getting even.



Nice to hear the old stories of how Shanks  instilled the spirit in the club and its players ..... although I cant see Kenny wanting to share a sauna with Soto .... nice read though ....and Smithy is bang on the money

[PabloMedina28]

Ive been reading through the last few pages of this forum. I have to say i think its strange that there are some people on here who slagged off Poulsen, Jova etc. Roy for his tactics and for playing Mierles out of positon (playing Johnson at LB wouldnt of gone down to well either) wont dare qeustion Kennys judgement for doing so and even round up on people who do.

Im not for 1 minute going anti-Kenny be4 IDIOTS suggest so. I loved Rafa i also questioned his tactics and team selections almost every game, i supported Roy until it became apparent he was useless and i love Kenny an im delighted he is the manager however i will question his team selections and tactics if i dont 100% agree with them. Thats what footballs all about for me it doesnt mean you become any less of a supporter just because you have a difference of opinion to whoever is in charge of our club. 

Its only fair to behave the same way to every manager/person appointed no matter who they are and to be honest the whole Houllier Rafa Roy and now it seems Kenny thing on this forum just stinks of Gang Mentality. This example being the "hes foreign, hes not british" small mnded

[Joeblackisachimp]

sorry i meant maggie (the tea lady) at melwood as the holding midfielder with my line up of ten.

she could do a better job than those other clowns.

[Raoul]

When we played Blackpool I thought at times our players' positions were like this:

                     Reina

Kelly       Skert       Agger    Johno

                   poulson

Kuyt      merieles     Lucas     Jovo

                   Torres

It was the same system against Man U too. Gerrard and Merieles in the middle with Lucas in DM.

Perhaps:

                    Lucas

Kuyt       Merieles      Cole          Maxi

against the Bitters?

[Thommo's perm]

Ive been reading through the last few pages of this forum. I have to say i think its strange that there are some people on here who slagged off Poulsen, Jova etc. Roy for his tactics and for playing Mierles out of positon (playing Johnson at LB wouldnt of gone down to well either) wont dare qeustion Kennys judgement for doing so and even round up on people who do.

Im not for 1 minute going anti-Kenny be4 IDIOTS suggest so. I loved Rafa i also questioned his tactics and team selections almost every game, i supported Roy until it became apparent he was useless and i love Kenny an im delighted he is the manager however i will question his team selections and tactics if i dont 100% agree with them. Thats what footballs all about for me it doesnt mean you become any less of a supporter just because you have a difference of opinion to whoever is in charge of our club. 

Its only fair to behave the same way to every manager/person appointed no matter who they are and to be honest the whole Houllier Rafa Roy and now it seems Kenny thing on this forum just stinks of Gang Mentality. This example being the "hes foreign, hes not british" small mnded

Exactly
Asking questions is a normal part of being a supporter. It shows you care
Blind faith does no-one any good

[parchpea]

Think Dalglish needs to get this team on the front foot and be brave with his selections. I didnt see evidence of that at Blackpool. Rather than edging on the side of caution with two holding and grafters wide be bold and pick 3 up top, change it and try a new system. Lets end the negativity and focus on how we can hurt the opposition thats all I ask. Expressive, expansive football today and let the cards fall as they may.

[Thommo's perm]

Think Dalglish needs to get this team on the front foot and be brave with his selections. I didnt see evidence of that at Blackpool. Rather than edging on the side of caution with two holding and grafters wide be bold and pick 3 up top, change it and try a new system. Lets end the negativity and focus on how we can hurt the opposition thats all I ask. Expressive, expansive football today and let the cards fall as they may.

Agreed
They will think we will be sh'itting ourselves and will come at us from the off. We have to shut them up in the first ten minutes with strong challenges and plenty of attacking in and around their box.
If we sit back or show any fear those tw@ts will jump all over us.
Need to show heart and passion. Only the bravest will survive today...

[metalhead]

Disappointed with his substitutions today, although Shelvey did really well when he came on. Should have got Cole for his intelligence on the ball or Babel for his physical prowess to get something out of the game.

His lineup was alright, I thought the 4-3-3 worked

[Johnny Boy]

Disappointed with his substitutions today, although Shelvey did really well when he came on. Should have got Cole for his intelligence on the ball or Babel for his physical prowess to get something out of the game.

His lineup was alright, I thought the 4-3-3 worked

Just got back from the match and I agree. We should have used one the attacking options for the last 20 minutes.

[alwayslfc]

Lvp's defence was terrible. They gave Everton too much space, everytime they attacked they looked like scoring. Lucky to get the penalty as some referees may not have given it. We really missed Stevie G. A draw was a fair result.

Does Kenny still has what it takes in today's modern game? Any feedbacks would be great.