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Postby mascherano20 » Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:41 pm

crazyhorse wrote:Torres Straight? so hes not gay then? :D :p

If he was gay he'd be BENT?   :Oo:  :grinning:
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Postby atleticofa » Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:54 pm

mascherano20 wrote:
crazyhorse wrote:Torres Straight? so hes not gay then? :D :p

If he was gay he'd be BENT?   :Oo:  :grinning:

Torres have girlfriend since four years ago.
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Postby atleticofa » Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:57 pm

Torrres sign for 30M EUROS ? or 30M EUROS + Luis García.
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Postby maguskwt » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:02 pm

ok did we pay 20 million pounds or 26.5? some sources are still sticking with 26.5...

if someone can clarify this that will be great...
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Postby weringo » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:23 pm

maguskwt wrote:ok did we pay 20 million pounds or 26.5? some sources are still sticking with 26.5...

if someone can clarify this that will be great...

From what I've heard from the reliable news sources we paid £20m.
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Postby Mayday » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:25 pm

f9Torres wrote:
Mayday wrote:
f9Torres wrote:In his worse season he scores 13. The average in 15. If you want/can, tell me some strikers who have scored at least 13 goals by year since 18 to 23.

2000-01 (2 division)  4 - 1 Goal
2001-02 (2 division) 36 - 6 Goals
2002-03 (1 division) 29 - 13 Goals
2003-04 (1 division) 35 - 19 Goals
2004-05 (1 division) 38 - 16 Goals
2005-06 (1 division) 36 - 13 Goals
2006-07 (1 division) 36 - 14 Goals

Included penalty kicks.

The rest of the message in private.

I repeat, since 18, in primera division, an average of 15 goals, and every year at least 13 goals. Tell me another strikers with this number in his 5 first season in primera woth this age (18-23).

Always the same. This is the typical question of Atlético Suporters. I’m talking about good players or the best players for the Liverpool. This question is a sort of excuse to apologize the actuation of Fernando.

When a team wants grow up and obtains great result, great players must appear and Atlético is out of Europe for 10 years. We talk about Torres... have been appeared? Not yet. Torres was, is and will be a ethernal promise all the life. Every year the same.

Atlético change a lot of players every year. Bad times. Always the players are guilty of the situation except Torres. Why? Because Torres was the flag of the team and have Atlético in his heart, but his level is similar.

By the way, Rafa is a magician that can show the best of the players. Rafa and Liverpool will demand Torres this talent, and now, haven’t time for excuses.

I wish Torres triumph in Liverpool. Let’s see the evolution

¿30M€? (and losing Luís García)I think this operation have been a mistake.
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Postby f9Torres » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:29 pm

Mayday wrote:
f9Torres wrote:
Mayday wrote:
f9Torres wrote:In his worse season he scores 13. The average in 15. If you want/can, tell me some strikers who have scored at least 13 goals by year since 18 to 23.

2000-01 (2 division)  4 - 1 Goal
2001-02 (2 division) 36 - 6 Goals
2002-03 (1 division) 29 - 13 Goals
2003-04 (1 division) 35 - 19 Goals
2004-05 (1 division) 38 - 16 Goals
2005-06 (1 division) 36 - 13 Goals
2006-07 (1 division) 36 - 14 Goals

Included penalty kicks.

The rest of the message in private.

I repeat, since 18, in primera division, an average of 15 goals, and every year at least 13 goals. Tell me another strikers with this number in his 5 first season in primera woth this age (18-23).

Always the same. This is the typical question of Atlético Suporters. I’m talking about good players or the best players for the Liverpool. This question is a sort of excuse to apologize the actuation of Fernando.

When a team wants grow up and obtains great result, great players must appear and Atlético is out of Europe for 10 years. We talk about Torres... have been appeared? Not yet. Torres was, is and will be a ethernal promise all the life. Every year the same.

Atlético change a lot of players every year. Bad times. Always the players are guilty of the situation except Torres. Why? Because Torres was the flag of the team and have Atlético in his heart, but his level is similar.

By the way, Rafa is a magician that can show the best of the players. Rafa and Liverpool will demand Torres this talent, and now, haven’t time for excuses.

I wish Torres triumph in Liverpool. Let’s see the evolution

¿30M€? (and losing Luís García)I think this operation have been a mistake.

I repeat, if you want/can tell us the strikers in the world with this number. 13 goals at least, an average of 15. It is simple. Look at the numbers of the best players in the world between the 18 and 23 and compare it. It easy. Come on.
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Postby The Manhattan Project » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:35 pm

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Postby ziomeknb » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:42 pm

I found some nice wallpapers of Torres Torres Wallpapers!
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Postby Sean » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:20 pm

Looks like Utd will get Tevez for 20 million.  To be honest I reckon hes better than Torres....more aggressive and premiership proven.
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Postby Mayday » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:01 am

f9Torres wrote:
Mayday wrote:
f9Torres wrote:
Mayday wrote:
f9Torres wrote:In his worse season he scores 13. The average in 15. If you want/can, tell me some strikers who have scored at least 13 goals by year since 18 to 23.

2000-01 (2 division)  4 - 1 Goal
2001-02 (2 division) 36 - 6 Goals
2002-03 (1 division) 29 - 13 Goals
2003-04 (1 division) 35 - 19 Goals
2004-05 (1 division) 38 - 16 Goals
2005-06 (1 division) 36 - 13 Goals
2006-07 (1 division) 36 - 14 Goals

Included penalty kicks.

The rest of the message in private.

I repeat, since 18, in primera division, an average of 15 goals, and every year at least 13 goals. Tell me another strikers with this number in his 5 first season in primera woth this age (18-23).

Always the same. This is the typical question of Atlético Suporters. I’m talking about good players or the best players for the Liverpool. This question is a sort of excuse to apologize the actuation of Fernando.

When a team wants grow up and obtains great result, great players must appear and Atlético is out of Europe for 10 years. We talk about Torres... have been appeared? Not yet. Torres was, is and will be a ethernal promise all the life. Every year the same.

Atlético change a lot of players every year. Bad times. Always the players are guilty of the situation except Torres. Why? Because Torres was the flag of the team and have Atlético in his heart, but his level is similar.

By the way, Rafa is a magician that can show the best of the players. Rafa and Liverpool will demand Torres this talent, and now, haven’t time for excuses.

I wish Torres triumph in Liverpool. Let’s see the evolution

¿30M€? (and losing Luís García)I think this operation have been a mistake.

I repeat, if you want/can tell us the strikers in the world with this number. 13 goals at least, an average of 15. It is simple. Look at the numbers of the best players in the world between the 18 and 23 and compare it. It easy. Come on.

What a nonsense! The question is made for answer 'Torres'(But in the terms that interesting your point). Another excuse about the statistic.
We talk about if Torres is a good player or if he is a star. I don't mind if he was a young player and if done 13 goals at least. Neither done 20!

Do you want an example of a young player? Raúl González (17 years old when he arrived to Liga). This player is a star (5 Ligas, 3 Supercopas,3 Champions league, 1 Supercopa de Europa y 2 Intercontinentales) .

1994/95 28 - 9 Goals
1995/96 40 - 19 Goals
1996/97 42 - 21 Goals
1997/98 35 - 10 Goals
1998/99 37 - 25 Goals
1999/00 34 - 17 Goals
2000/01 36 - 24 Goals

( 18(17)-23 years old statistic as you want)

There are a lot of players better than Torres without this especifics terms. What player is the best? A player that can do 25 goals winning all, or a player that do at least 13 winning nothing?

My point is clear and the different too.This conversation is finished for me.
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Postby Kharhaz » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:13 am

Mayday wrote:
f9Torres wrote:
Mayday wrote:
f9Torres wrote:
Mayday wrote:
f9Torres wrote:In his worse season he scores 13. The average in 15. If you want/can, tell me some strikers who have scored at least 13 goals by year since 18 to 23.

2000-01 (2 division)  4 - 1 Goal
2001-02 (2 division) 36 - 6 Goals
2002-03 (1 division) 29 - 13 Goals
2003-04 (1 division) 35 - 19 Goals
2004-05 (1 division) 38 - 16 Goals
2005-06 (1 division) 36 - 13 Goals
2006-07 (1 division) 36 - 14 Goals

Included penalty kicks.

The rest of the message in private.

I repeat, since 18, in primera division, an average of 15 goals, and every year at least 13 goals. Tell me another strikers with this number in his 5 first season in primera woth this age (18-23).

Always the same. This is the typical question of Atlético Suporters. I’m talking about good players or the best players for the Liverpool. This question is a sort of excuse to apologize the actuation of Fernando.

When a team wants grow up and obtains great result, great players must appear and Atlético is out of Europe for 10 years. We talk about Torres... have been appeared? Not yet. Torres was, is and will be a ethernal promise all the life. Every year the same.

Atlético change a lot of players every year. Bad times. Always the players are guilty of the situation except Torres. Why? Because Torres was the flag of the team and have Atlético in his heart, but his level is similar.

By the way, Rafa is a magician that can show the best of the players. Rafa and Liverpool will demand Torres this talent, and now, haven’t time for excuses.

I wish Torres triumph in Liverpool. Let’s see the evolution

¿30M€? (and losing Luís García)I think this operation have been a mistake.

I repeat, if you want/can tell us the strikers in the world with this number. 13 goals at least, an average of 15. It is simple. Look at the numbers of the best players in the world between the 18 and 23 and compare it. It easy. Come on.

What a nonsense! The question is made for answer 'Torres'(But in the terms that interesting your point). Another excuse about the statistic.
We talk about if Torres is a good player or if he is a star. I don't mind if he was a young player and if done 13 goals at least. Neither done 20!

Do you want an example of a young player? Raúl González (17 years old when he arrived to Liga). This player is a star (5 Ligas, 3 Supercopas,3 Champions league, 1 Supercopa de Europa y 2 Intercontinentales) .

1994/95 28 - 9 Goals
1995/96 40 - 19 Goals
1996/97 42 - 21 Goals
1997/98 35 - 10 Goals
1998/99 37 - 25 Goals
1999/00 34 - 17 Goals
2000/01 36 - 24 Goals

( 18(17)-23 years old statistic as you want)

There are a lot of players better than Torres without this especifics terms. What player is the best? A player that can do 25 goals winning all, or a player that do at least 13 winning nothing?

My point is clear and the different too.This conversation is finished for me.

OHHHH a Real Madrid supporter, the people who signed owen for pittance, he scored goals, but wasnt good enough, the people who signed Beckham, dropped him, sold him to the yanks then OOOPS hang on he can do a job for us after all, the people who go through managers like chain smoker go through cigarettes !

This conversation was over the moment your tepid little finger touched the keyboard !
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Postby f9Torres » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:44 am

Mayday, juju, look around Raul, who played with him, some of the best players of the last 20 years. Look who played with Torres... Is easy. If Ronaldo would had bond in Qatar he would not be the best scorer in World Cups. If you don´t understand it, it is no my problem. And look, Raul 16'8 goals by season, Torres 15, wooow, what big difference.
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Postby crazyhorse » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:03 am

After the last few days it is finally sinking in. We have signed a real world class player.
This is not a Cisse, or a Bellamy or even a Kuyt. Torres is a seasoned professional world class centre forward who to quote Simon Cowell has the full package.

Every signing is a gamble in some respects, but this is as close to a sure thing as you can get in football. He will score, and will score - a lot. But he needs to be given games; he needs to be the main man and not be rotated out of the side every week or two. If he is fit he should play in 90% of all PL matches as our main striker.

This signing will be worth an extra 15-20 points to us for next season. For the first time in a long time i am going into a new season believing that not only could we seriously challenge we might even win it.
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:12 am

Mayday wrote:
f9Torres wrote:
Mayday wrote:
f9Torres wrote:
Mayday wrote:
f9Torres wrote:In his worse season he scores 13. The average in 15. If you want/can, tell me some strikers who have scored at least 13 goals by year since 18 to 23.

2000-01 (2 division)  4 - 1 Goal
2001-02 (2 division) 36 - 6 Goals
2002-03 (1 division) 29 - 13 Goals
2003-04 (1 division) 35 - 19 Goals
2004-05 (1 division) 38 - 16 Goals
2005-06 (1 division) 36 - 13 Goals
2006-07 (1 division) 36 - 14 Goals

Included penalty kicks.

The rest of the message in private.

I repeat, since 18, in primera division, an average of 15 goals, and every year at least 13 goals. Tell me another strikers with this number in his 5 first season in primera woth this age (18-23).

Always the same. This is the typical question of Atlético Suporters. I’m talking about good players or the best players for the Liverpool. This question is a sort of excuse to apologize the actuation of Fernando.

When a team wants grow up and obtains great result, great players must appear and Atlético is out of Europe for 10 years. We talk about Torres... have been appeared? Not yet. Torres was, is and will be a ethernal promise all the life. Every year the same.

Atlético change a lot of players every year. Bad times. Always the players are guilty of the situation except Torres. Why? Because Torres was the flag of the team and have Atlético in his heart, but his level is similar.

By the way, Rafa is a magician that can show the best of the players. Rafa and Liverpool will demand Torres this talent, and now, haven’t time for excuses.

I wish Torres triumph in Liverpool. Let’s see the evolution

¿30M€? (and losing Luís García)I think this operation have been a mistake.

I repeat, if you want/can tell us the strikers in the world with this number. 13 goals at least, an average of 15. It is simple. Look at the numbers of the best players in the world between the 18 and 23 and compare it. It easy. Come on.

What a nonsense! The question is made for answer 'Torres'(But in the terms that interesting your point). Another excuse about the statistic.
We talk about if Torres is a good player or if he is a star. I don't mind if he was a young player and if done 13 goals at least. Neither done 20!

Do you want an example of a young player? Raúl González (17 years old when he arrived to Liga). This player is a star (5 Ligas, 3 Supercopas,3 Champions league, 1 Supercopa de Europa y 2 Intercontinentales) .

1994/95 28 - 9 Goals
1995/96 40 - 19 Goals
1996/97 42 - 21 Goals
1997/98 35 - 10 Goals
1998/99 37 - 25 Goals
1999/00 34 - 17 Goals
2000/01 36 - 24 Goals

( 18(17)-23 years old statistic as you want)

There are a lot of players better than Torres without this especifics terms. What player is the best? A player that can do 25 goals winning all, or a player that do at least 13 winning nothing?

My point is clear and the different too.This conversation is finished for me.

What a load of old cr*p.

You want to play the stats game, eh? OK then, pal:

Raul Real games/goals: 449/194, or 1 goal every 2.3 games.

He's still in Madrid.

Michael Owen (Who I dislike) career games/goals: 264/138, or 1 goal every 1.9 games.

He was booted out for "not being good enough".

Stats can tell you anything you want to hear.

What a load of old sh*te.
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