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[destro]

HELLO to all LFC fans, I' ve got 2 tickets available for the champions league final 2007 in Athens, category 2, best seats(gate 13-section A),price(negotiatable):1500 pounds each, if interested please contact me in my mail!!!I live in Athens, so that the tickets will be given face to face!!!!

How is the price negotiable if you are asking 1500. What happened to the negotiation ?
( if that was a spelling error and you meant 15.00 ill take them off your hands  )

[Judge]

touched a little nerve there s@int

Last season Alonso 6 goals this season 4 your turn

If your so interested in facts.......LOOK THEM UP YOURSELF!

or ask AB

[zarababe]

Arrogance is as typical of Milan as their Christmas cake and their cathedral...They're just posh teasers. Don't care about their bullshits, they can't win the Cup chatting...They must do it on the pitch .
So, keep your world famous british self control and just don't care about the rossoneri craps.
The entire city of Genoa supports you versus the damned Milan!
Now, just one question...I'm interested in the history of the Liverpool docks and their workers. Genoa is similar to Liverpool, its harbour is very ancient and one of the most important of the Mediterranean area from centuries; so, I'd like to know something about yours. I'm a f...ng curious!

Juventino: See you in the next Serie A. Unfortunely, we can't continue to avoid your mathematical promotion...  Nexy saturday you'll be in Paradise, we hope to maintain the second place and come back to A, too.
However...   FORZA GENOA FORZA TORO!!!

Thanks that's most of Italy and all of Spain 

and Xabi and Gerrard are great players who may have not have had the greatest of season but are still 'class' which is permanent. OK

You don't build a title winnijng side by selling players off the back of one season - when they are clearly class.

[Emerald Red]

Dont know what the problem is, if someone wants to sell there tickets and make something out of it then thats fair enough.  the only problem i see is you are not a real fan.  A real supporter would pay anything to go and see there team.

Mon United league champions again.  Ac Milan 3 Liverpool 1.

Milan will walk all over you.

Is that why you can only muster 12,000 so called fans that can be bothered to turn up in athens...Ha! real fans my ar@e!....you dont have any REAL fans!.

Not only do they not have any real fans, they don't have any real European Cups! How you like them apples, ya daft Manc wa@nker.

[Feeney]

Rather than join in the fan (and ticket) baiting thats going on in this thread at the min, I thought i'd look at the team and review thier chances of starting in the Final. I'm only going to focus on the players I believe will have a chance of starting to avoid me being here all night. Rafa is notorious for springing surprises, but like most (and for me at the moment), and given rafa's recent choices, the team picks itself. As I mentioned though, he does have form for picking surprises.......

REINA

We can be 100% certain that Reina wil start in the Final. Despite his hiccups earlier in the season, Reina has been as reliable as ever and thanks to his heroics in the penalty shootout, we are in the Final. I'd love to say he will have a quiet game, but Milan have far too much quality to ensure that won't happen.         Odds on.

FINNAN

Finnan's struggled with a neck injury recently and that could potentially go against him. Can he be risked, knowing that he may be carrying a niggling injury? Finnan's form as ever has been exemplorary this season and again has earned the hushed accolades from everyone within Anfield and no-one outside of it. For me, he would be a certain starter - however, Milan's back four arn't the quickest and he could potentially be seen behind Arbeloa due to his ability to be able to bomb forward and support the attack.          5 - 1

CARRAGHER

Certain to start, no doubt. Has shown consistently that he can cope with top class opposition (only to Henry has he ever been found wanting) and for me, Gilardino nor Inzaghi have the quality to overcome Carra.           No bets

AGGER

Currently being groomed to be Sami's replacement and then some. Has effectively made the position beside Carra his own this year so I can't forsee any trouble in keeping his place in the Final as he has done for the Champions League campain. Answered his critics following his poor first leg performance against Chelsea in style with his goal and his quality performance against Drogba. That dour performance will have done him far more good than harm.         4 - 1

HYYPIA

Comsumate professional, has served to assist Paletta in adapting more this year than he would have liked, but has shown glipes of the classic Sami we all know and love. This will be a bit part appearance in the Final and I only expect him if we are struggling to maintain a lead and shore up the defence.        33 - 1

ARBELOA

This player could be the one who troubles Rafa the most. His performances of recent have left a lot to be desired, but the way he played against Messi and Ronaldinho may linger in the memory in the knowledge that he may produce the goods against Kaka. Can be utilised in either full back position which offers adaptability, but also potential mixed feelings.         10 - 1


RIISE

Erratic at best in performances this season, has been the one player that has brought about mixed emotions among fans. Generally solid, but does lapse now and again and it's this that does put him at risk. Good going forward, but will this be enough to secure a place in the Final?      5 - 1

GERRARD

Cast iron certainty to play and also captain the team. Position wise, more than likely will be deployed on the right to accomodate the guile of Mascherano and the creativity of Alonso. Not so much a bad thing to do so, but will evoke mixed emotions as to his best position as usual.       No bets

PENNANT

A very indifferent season which saw him flatter to decieve in the early parts of it and prduce some excellent performances with glimpes of sublime distrbution in the later half. Will probably miss out on a start due to the overall balance of the midfield but could easily be deployed later in the game to bring an attacking impetous and pace to the line up should it be required.          16 - 1

SISSOKO

Surely the bridesmade in this Final due in whole to the outstanding contribution and performances of Senor Javier Mascherano. Commitment cannot be denied, but the rawness is almost certainly too much an invitation for Milan to obtain a numerical advantage with ease.           20 - 1

MASCHERANO

Performances since his arrival have almost cetainly booked his starting bearth in the Final. Offers reasurrance to other players (particularly the full backs in recent games) that they are able to join an attack without the fear they may be caught out on the counter. Could potentially be tasked with shackling Pirlo from distributing passes across the pitch - no easy task, but has shown ability to come up with the goods.         6 - 1

ALONSO

Extremely indifferent season for Xabi which has led to some ridiculous rumours circulating about his potential departure from Liverpool. The indifference in the preferred midfield hasn't been kind to Xabi, who has found himself out of a side he once was concidered a certainty. His ability to spot a pass and control a midfield with his distribution (much in the same way as Pirlo) should see him start this Final.       5 - 1

ZENDEN

Not even thought about 2 months ago, has emerged as a consistent feature in Rafa's team. This in itself begs the question "why?" He has no pace, distribution has been patchy at best and is, like Smicer in the last Final, due to leave. To counter this, he offers stability in keeping a solid line of midfield, will not over commit if danger is present and also, which is something that not many critics have noticed, is able to converse in many languages which is of great assistance to the newer recruits within the team (the glue, as Rafa puts it). An injury while training this week could spell disaster, but his solidity within the midfield could see him risked.      8 - 1

KEWELL

How does this boy do it? He's come from nowhere, being wrote off for a whole season to being in contention for a start in the Champions League Final. Unfortunately, Rafa may have other ideas. Once bitten, twice shy, Rafa may only opt to deploy Kewell on the bench and given past (and for that matter, recent against Charlton) form, he may be wise to do so. To start Kewell might be tentamount to ruining any tactical advantage if he has to come off injured, whereas a Kewell that comes off the bench offers fantastic possibilities and freshness in attack as he is possiblly at his most lean build and his most hungry temperement in years.        14 - 1

BELLAMY

Once concidered this season to be the forward line alongside Kuyt has now seen him way behind the pecking order and potentially out the Anfield door. Offers much in the way of pace and physicality, but loses in attitude and, for me, teamwork. This could be a tricky decision for Rafa - the industry of Kuyt, the constant outlet of Crouch, or the pace and nastyness of Bellamy? This could go any way, with Bellamy in with a chance as much as any forward (of 3).         6 - 1

KUYT

Has shown glimpes of a potential 20 a season striker, but Rafa has deployed him in other, more 'harrassing' areas which has lessened the impact he could have made this year. Will run all day and will be sure to hassle any Milan defender who has the ball. An excellent option, which potentially offers more to the team than just goals. Could be used as the foil to get the job done, ugly style if need be.             6 - 1

CROUCH

Despite his critics, Peter will not go away. 2nd in the Champions League top scorers this year and to his credit, deserved. Offers a superb outlet for any defence to hoof out and provide a respite, but is fantastically technical in his play and (sometimes!) ability in front of goal. Would surely give Nesta a headache if played and could be too much of a front foil to not start. Again, 1 out of 3 that could start.          6 - 1

FOWLER

Will unfortunately continue the Final as majority of his season has gone - on the bench. Do not underestimate his ability off the bench however - only ever needs just one chance to make it count.          28 - 1

[LFC2007]

Rather than join in the fan (and ticket) baiting thats going on in this thread at the min, I thought i'd look at the team and review thier chances of starting in the Final. I'm only going to focus on the players I believe will have a chance of starting to avoid me being here all night. Rafa is notorious for springing surprises, but like most (and for me at the moment), and given rafa's recent choices, the team picks itself. As I mentioned though, he does have form for picking surprises.......

REINA

We can be 100% certain that Reina wil start in the Final. Despite his hiccups earlier in the season, Reina has been as reliable as ever and thanks to his heroics in the penalty shootout, we are in the Final. I'd love to say he will have a quiet game, but Milan have far too much quality to ensure that won't happen.         Odds on.

FINNAN

Finnan's struggled with a neck injury recently and that could potentially go against him. Can he be risked, knowing that he may be carrying a niggling injury? Finnan's form as ever has been exemplorary this season and again has earned the hushed accolades from everyone within Anfield and no-one outside of it. For me, he would be a certain starter - however, Milan's back four arn't the quickest and he could potentially be seen behind Arbeloa due to his ability to be able to bomb forward and support the attack.          5 - 1

CARRAGHER

Certain to start, no doubt. Has shown consistently that he can cope with top class opposition (only to Henry has he ever been found wanting) and for me, Gilardino nor Inzaghi have the quality to overcome Carra.           No bets

AGGER

Currently being groomed to be Sami's replacement and then some. Has effectively made the position beside Carra his own this year so I can't forsee any trouble in keeping his place in the Final as he has done for the Champions League campain. Answered his critics following his poor first leg performance against Chelsea in style with his goal and his quality performance against Drogba. That dour performance will have done him far more good than harm.         4 - 1

HYYPIA

Comsumate professional, has served to assist Paletta in adapting more this year than he would have liked, but has shown glipes of the classic Sami we all know and love. This will be a bit part appearance in the Final and I only expect him if we are struggling to maintain a lead and shore up the defence.        33 - 1

ARBELOA

This player could be the one who troubles Rafa the most. His performances of recent have left a lot to be desired, but the way he played against Messi and Ronaldinho may linger in the memory in the knowledge that he may produce the goods against Kaka. Can be utilised in either full back position which offers adaptability, but also potential mixed feelings.         10 - 1

GERRARD

Cast iron certainty to play and also captain the team. Position wise, more than likely will be deployed on the right to accomodate the guile of Mascherano and the creativity of Alonso. Not so much a bad thing to do so, but will evoke mixed emotions as to his best position as usual.       No bets

PENNANT

A very indifferent season which saw him flatter to decieve in the early parts of it and prduce some excellent performances with glimpes of sublime distrbution in the later half. Will probably miss out on a start due to the overall balance of the midfield but could easily be deployed later in the game to bring an attacking impetous and pace to the line up should it be required.          16 - 1

SISSOKO

Surely the bridesmade in this Final due in whole to the outstanding contribution and performances of Senor Javier Mascherano. Commitment cannot be denied, but the rawness is almost certainly too much an invitation for Milan to obtain a numerical advantage with ease.           20 - 1

MASCHERANO

Performances since his arrival have almost cetainly booked his starting bearth in the Final. Offers reasurrance to other players (particularly the full backs in recent games) that they are able to join an attack without the fear they may be caught out on the counter. Could potentially be tasked with shackling Pirlo from distributing passes across the pitch - no easy task, but has shown ability to come up with the goods.         6 - 1

ALONSO

Extremely indifferent season for Xabi which has led to some ridiculous rumours circulating about his potential departure from Liverpool. The indifference in the preferred midfield hasn't been kind to Xabi, who has found himself out of a side he once was concidered a certainty. His ability to spot a pass and control a midfield with his distribution (much in the same way as Pirlo) should see him start this Final.       5 - 1

ZENDEN

Not even thought about 2 months ago, has emerged as a consistent feature in Rafa's team. This in itself begs the question "why?" He has no pace, distribution has been patchy at best and is, like Smicer in the last Final, due to leave. To counter this, he offers stability in keeping a solid line of midfield, will not over commit if danger is present and also, which is something that not many critics have noticed, is able to converse in many languages which is of great assistance to the newer recruits within the team (the glue, as Rafa puts it). An injury while training this week could spell disaster, but his solidity within the midfield could see him risked.      8 - 1

KEWELL

How does this boy do it? He's come from nowhere, being wrote off for a whole season to being in contention for a start in the Champions League Final. Unfortunately, Rafa may have other ideas. Once bitten, twice shy, Rafa may only opt to deploy Kewell on the bench and given past (and for that matter, recent against Charlton) form, he may be wise to do so. To start Kewell might be tentamount to ruining any tactical advantage if he has to come off injured, whereas a Kewell that comes off the bench offers fantastic possibilities and freshness in attack as he is possiblly at his most lean build and his most hungry temperement in years.        14 - 1

BELLAMY

Once concidered this season to be the forward line alongside Kuyt has now seen him way behind the pecking order and potentially out the Anfield door. Offers much in the way of pace and physicality, but loses in attitude and, for me, teamwork. This could be a tricky decision for Rafa - the industry of Kuyt, the constant outlet of Crouch, or the pace and nastyness of Bellamy? This could go any way, with Bellamy in with a chance as much as any forward (of 3).         6 - 1

KUYT

Has shown glimpes of a potential 20 a season striker, but Rafa has deployed him in other, more 'harrassing' areas which has lessened the impact he could have made this year. Will run all day and will be sure to hassle any Milan defender who has the ball. An excellent option, which potentially offers more to the team than just goals. Could be used as the foil to get the job done, ugly style if need be.             6 - 1

CROUCH

Despite his critics, Peter will not go away. 2nd in the Champions League top scorers this year and to his credit, deserved. Offers a superb outlet for any defence to hoof out and provide a respite, but is fantastically technical in his play and (sometimes!) ability in front of goal. Would surely give Nesta a headache if played and could be too much of a front foil to not start. Again, 1 out of 3 that could start.          6 - 1

FOWLER

Will unfortunately continue the Final as majority of his season has gone - on the bench. Do not underestimate his ability off the bench however - only ever needs just one chance to make it count.          28 - 1

I think your odds are a little long for some of the more likely starters and where's Riise?

[Sabre]

That's an excellent post Feeney, as usual. The only criticism I'll do is that it's a thorough analysis of our team, but it strikes me that Rafa makes the line-ups thinking about the opposition, and analysing how they play.

So withing my too basic knowledge of tactics (we are nothing more than football supporters most of us, not coachs) I think Bellamy for instance will have more chances to start the final.

I rate Crouch and Kuyt higher than Bellamy to be honest. Meaning that I'd struggle to say more than  3 names in La Liga that I'd be sure they'd be better for LFC. Bellamy instead, I know more like him or better.

But, bearing in mind that the opposition is likely to play 5 midfielders with no classic wingers, it means we must do harm in their weak spot: the fact that their L/R backs are going to be up and down all the match. And Bellamy is our best striker when it comes to falling to the wings. I think he'd be an interesting option to create 2vs1 situations. I think also that Riise's capability to make runs after 86 mins of game will be interesting to make them harm in the left wing.

That's why IMHO those two players would have more chances to start despite the analysis of how is our team at the moment.

[redtrader74]

Feeney i'll have a grand on Agger, one on Crouch and on Alonso!!

[Feeney]

I think your odds are a little long for some of the more likely starters and where's Riise?

Fair play about Riise, i'm on my third bottle of wine - give me a break!! Now sorted however.

I'm not generally a betting man nor a book maker so my odds may be sketchy. I was more interested in showing the analysis 

[Feeney]

Feeney i'll have a grand on Agger, one on Crouch and on Alonso!!

F Rar off, you   

[Scottbot]

ZENDEN

Not even thought about 2 months ago, has emerged as a consistent feature in Rafa's team. This in itself begs the question "why?" He has no pace, distribution has been patchy at best and is, like Smicer in the last Final, due to leave. To counter this, he offers stability in keeping a solid line of midfield, will not over commit if danger is present and also, which is something that not many critics have noticed, is able to converse in many languages which is of great assistance to the newer recruits within the team (the glue, as Rafa puts it). An injury while training this week could spell disaster, but his solidity within the midfield could see him risked.      8 - 1

make it count.          28 - 1

That's a pretty good assessment of Zenden there Feeney lad. Ever since the semi-final 2nd leg at Anfield i've had a feeling Rafa would come out with the same line-up from that game. Crouch and Kuyt up front with Stevie and Masch in the middle. I also reckoned Zenden was a shoe-in for the left mid spot because (as you say) he is an intelligent player who will keep the midfield line, won't get sucked too far forward and his prescence allows Stevie to get a little further forward from that central role. I don't think he will play Arbeloa given his recent form (the guy has had a mare from the moment i had decided and stated he was a good player!) so that made Bolo the obvious choice to play in front of Riise. If he doesn't make it i have a feeling we might see Kewell from the start.

Most fans seem to think he will play five across the middle with just Kuyt or Crouch up front but i can't see it myself. He played two up away to Barca, PSV and Chelsea so it will be the same again for the final. No doubt Kuyt will be asked to drop just in-front of the midfield when we lose the ball and it's easy to overlook the defensive work Kuyt/Crouch (and Bellamy) put in when we lose the ball. They were absolutely tireless in the games with Barca and Chelsea. They mark, track and tackle as if they were midfielders and i don't think you will find a busier front two (without the ball) than our lads.

I guess everyone worries that we were carved open the last time out when Rafa put out a similarly bold line-up but the circumstances were a little different back then. The players looked overawed and were more akin to a rabbit trapped in the headlights for the 1st 20 minutes of that game. With them scoring so early there was no time to settle the nerves and everyone's composure (particulalry Traore - What little he had!) went out the window. Funny thing is, if you watch the game again you'll see that we more than held our own between their 1st goal leading up to the Garcia penalty claim which saw them fly up the other end and grab the 2nd goal. This is a very different side and if we can stifle Barca in the Nou Camp (let's be honest they hardly threatened bar a brief purple patch) playing 4-4-2 then we can do it against an inferior attacking side (compared to Barca) like Milan.

While i think this game will be very close i really don't see anything to REALLY fear in this Milan side. There might be several threads on the board winging on about our league form (i struggle to indulge in that on the eve of ANOTHER eurpean Cup Final) but in Europe this season, with the exception of 30mins at the Bridge and 20mins at the Nou Camp we have been fu.c.kin excellent. Dominated the group stage, put out the reigning European Champions, did the same to the English Champions (against everyones expectations) and hammered PSV without getting out of 1st gear.

Lads an Ladies i think it's gonna be another night to remember.

[Scottbot]

Cracking picture on your footer Feeney. I got the same pick on me phone screen saver (from the Anny Rd end)

[Feeney]

Cracking picture on your footer Feeney. I got the same pick on me phone screen saver (from the Anny Rd end)

Ta la. Weird game that, didn't really pay attention to it for about the first half an hour due to the Hillsborough songs 

[Scottbot]

Cracking picture on your footer Feeney. I got the same pick on me phone screen saver (from the Anny Rd end)

Ta la. Weird game that, didn't really pay attention to it for about the first half an hour due to the Hillsborough songs 

Know what you mean mate, was totally surreal. Absolutely loved the roar that went round the ground for a couple of minutes when the protest came to an end. Sent shivers down me spine (still does when i watch it again on Youtube). How the f.u.ck we lost that game with that atmospehe and support is beyond me

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