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by **Kash_Mountain** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:45 pm

Just worried in case we do leave our shelves short as you mention Ciggy- injuries, bans. We need to get rid of some players but not all.

Maybe keep Florent Sinama Pongolle, Stephen Warnock, Jan Kromkamp (not been with that long- needs to be given a chance), Paul Anderson and Darren Potter. Not sure about the others.

by **taff** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:56 pm

Cool Hand Luke wrote:For a Premiership team a squad of 22,23 or 24 first team players is what you would want, the clubs competing in Europe are likely to have 23 or 24, but that really is the maximum. And all these players must be good enough to play in the Premiership, with maybe the exception of 1 or 2 talented youngsters. If you have any players aged 22 plus out on loan then you know that something isn’t right, if you have any players aged 22 plus in the reserve then you know something isn’t right. Since Rafa has come he has been shaping the squad nicely, last season we made much more progress on the pitch and in terms of squad shaping than I thought we would. This is how I see the shape of our squad right now:

Pepe Reina
Jerzy Dudek
David Martin

Steve Finnan Jamie Carragher Sami Hyypia Fabio Aurelio
Jan Kromkamp Gabriel Paletta Daniel Agger John Arne Riise

A NEW RM Steven Gerrard Xabi Alonso Harry Kewell
Luis Garcia Momo Sissoko Boudewijn Zenden Mark Gonzalez

A NEW ST Craig Bellamy
Peter Crouch Robbie Fowler

Ignore which order I put them in and the formation, that is purely for squad size and shape, were almost there in terms of these 2 things. All we need another striker and a right midfielder, and arguably a central midfielder to replace Hamann, so 2, maximum 3 signings are needed if we keep the above players, and for me that is a very strong squad.

We can have the following youngsters in the reserves:

Paul Anderson
Besian Idrizaj
Danny Guthrie
David Mannix
Miki Roque
Lee Peltier
Danny O'Donnell
James Smith
Adam Hammill
Jack Hobbs
Godwin Antwi
Plus a few more from the under 18s who are bound to get a chance in the reserves

(And send out Scott Carson on loan for the season)

That makes these players surplus to requirements, get rid of them and our squad trimming in complete:

Djibril Cisse
Djimi Traore
Carl Medjani
Chris Kirkland
Stephen Warnock
Neil Mellor
Florent Sinama Pongolle
Anthony Le Tallec
Salif Diao
Darren Potter

Agree with your post cool hand and we do need two in each position and it looks like a quality squad.

The only point I disagree with would be Pongo, I would keep him, assuming he wants to stay as I do think he can do a good job. I would still look for another striker mind you.

But on paper it looks like Rafa has kinda quietly got a really good squad together

by **GOAT** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:40 pm

Smeg wrote:we need 3 players.

Really? Care to elaborate on your views??

by **Smeg** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:33 pm

GOAT wrote:
Smeg wrote:we need 3 players.

Really? Care to elaborate on your views??

yeah but I'm reading a book about Morrissey, so I will when I have time

by **Lando_Griffin** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:26 am

I'd still like us to sign a quality, experienced CB as immediate cover for Sami and JC. I know we've got Agger and Paletta, but could they cover for 10 games in a row if the top two get injured? I don't think so, tbh.

Other than that, a new RW, Striker and central midfielder should put us within reaching distance of the league title.

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:00 am

We can have the following youngsters in the reserves:

Paul Anderson
Besian Idrizaj
Danny Guthrie
David Mannix
Miki Roque
Lee Peltier
Danny O'Donnell
James Smith
Adam Hammill
Jack Hobbs
Godwin Antwi

Where is David Raven? I think its about time to let him play in the first team.

by **account deleted by request** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:07 am

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
We can have the following youngsters in the reserves:

Paul Anderson
Besian Idrizaj
Danny Guthrie
David Mannix
Miki Roque
Lee Peltier
Danny O'Donnell
James Smith
Adam Hammill
Jack Hobbs
Godwin Antwi

Where is David Raven? I think its about time to let him play in the first team.

Bit late that mate Raven signed for Carlisle about a week ago

by **red37** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:54 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:I'd still like us to sign a quality, experienced CB as immediate cover for Sami and JC. I know we've got Agger and Paletta, but could they cover for 10 games in a row if the top two get injured? I don't think so, tbh.

Other than that, a new RW, Striker and central midfielder should put us within reaching distance of the league title.

then you need the A-team lando....

(ayala,aimar,alves and anelka) all coming next week!!

by **Mark 23** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:58 am

Not enough Houllier bashing going on in this thread for my liking, there isn't half some :censored:

on the books at Liverpool.

by **account deleted by request** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:58 am

red37 wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:I'd still like us to sign a quality, experienced CB as immediate cover for Sami and JC. I know we've got Agger and Paletta, but could they cover for 10 games in a row if the top two get injured? I don't think so, tbh.

Other than that, a new RW, Striker and central midfielder should put us within reaching distance of the league title.

then you need the A-team lando....

(ayala,aimar,alves and anelka) all coming next week!!

by **Lando_Griffin** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:15 am

red37 wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:I'd still like us to sign a quality, experienced CB as immediate cover for Sami and JC. I know we've got Agger and Paletta, but could they cover for 10 games in a row if the top two get injured? I don't think so, tbh.

Other than that, a new RW, Striker and central midfielder should put us within reaching distance of the league title.

then you need the A-team lando....

(ayala,aimar,alves and anelka) all coming next week!!

Well they say "when no-one else can help you"!!!!

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:19 am

Bit late that mate Raven signed for Carlisle about a week ago

Huh? On Loan ?

by **account deleted by request** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:33 am

LiverpoolMadman wrote:
Bit late that mate Raven signed for Carlisle about a week ago

Huh? On Loan ?

nope, on a two year contract

by **LiverpoolMadman** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:54 am

nope, on a two year contract

Oh dear ... he's good, right ?? But why Rafa let him go ??

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:13 am

I feel another striker is needed more than a right winger. The squad is progressively being enforced and it is true that a right winger would be ideal but currently Stevie Gerrard does more than an adaquate job there. Whereas three strikers is leaving yourself almightily short, considering injuries and suspensions.

We haven't made that 'BIG' signing yet, every season we have a 10m+ signing, it always gets the fans excited when you see your club attracting the best players. Players who bring a winning mentality to the club, aside from Sissoko we have no players who have ever won a league title in any country.

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