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Postby NANNY RED » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:30 pm

Ive been absolutly gutted all day since i heard abar this and i wish i was going the match tomorrow to make my voice heard with im sure many thousands of fans to give these yankie sh.itehouses abit of what we think of them.

Dirty conning scumbags.
Ive argued with lads on the kop from day one about these two ive never :censored: trusted them, lads used to say to me give them a chance girl, give them a chance the :censored: need :censored: shooting for bringing the name of my beloved club in to the gutter.

WE WERE HERE FIRST YANKS AND WE WILL BE HERE LONG AFTER YOUVE GONE THE SOONER THE BETTER.


Just got to say this though

Rafa lad we know you love us and we love you dont let them make you walk dont give in to these conning :censored: hold your head up lad remember our song

WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH A STORM HOLD YOUR HEAD UP HIGH.

You aint done nothing wrong lad you tried to tell us what was going on but the :censored: told you to go and coach your team . Well carry on coaching your team lad were behind you.
Let them be the first to go as they said in there own words they are only the custodians THE FANS ARE THE REAL OWNERS . And as a fan im telling them to F.UCK OFF

HALA RAFA BENITEZ
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Postby Dundalk » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:08 pm

Posted this elsewhere thought Id stick it in here as well

A sad sad day in Liverpool FCs history.

Id expect this from the likes of Newcastle or Spurs but not us. Please don't tell me we are going down that road. I thought we were above all that and anything that had to be sorted was sorted behind close doors.

I feel Rafa is now a dead man walking, much like Jol was at spurs and it is only a matter of time till he goes. A shame really because he has such a great bond with the fans.

Remember this is the man who put Liverpool back on the top of the European ladder were we belong and got us our respect back throughout Europe. He is also the man who took everyones favorite son Fowler back home and mad so many fans happy. Not to mention getting in the hottest forward in Europe to play at this club.

Throw in an FA cup and the likes of Alonso, Garcia, Agger, Mach and Babel along with all the young players he has bought for the future.

And how do we repay him?

We snake behind his back looking for a new manager and then publicly announce that we are doing it. Its a disgrace and two American should be ashamed of what they are doing to this man. I don't think they can show their faces in Anfield again.

A sad sad day in Liverpool FCs history.
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Postby NANNY RED » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:14 pm

Sorry for all the swearin in my post but im absolutly gutted at the mo
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Postby Pedro Maradona » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:19 pm

Get out Gillet and Hicks u lying arrogant conniving tramps and take that male prostitute Parry with you and that clown Moores who hasnt done a good thing for this club since he got here!
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Postby Elchris » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:21 pm

I'm scared to open the papers , the sport websites ; because
I don't want to see the Headline " Benitez resigns from Liverpool " ,don't know how would i react to it .The damage done by the yanks is too deep, someone has to go. I just hope the americans do , all they was sweet talks and empty promises , always had a funny feeling about gillet and he looks like a leprechaun
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Postby Dundalk » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:25 pm

Does anyone think Rafa was told about this meeting some time ago or are we to believe he found out today?
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Postby Emerald Red » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:30 pm

Pedro Maradona wrote:Get out Gillet and Hicks u lying arrogant conniving tramps and take that male prostitute Parry with you and that clown Moores who hasnt done a good thing for this club since he got here!

Bit harsh on Moores, that. It wasn't his fault he wasn't rich enough. I think he gave all that he could into the club. In the end he just made the wrong choice by selling out to these two c*nts. I've no ill bearing towards him. Parry on the other hand...
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Postby J*o*n*D*o*e » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:35 pm

that maybe so but he was bloody rich once he sold his shares for the extra.
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Postby Pedro Maradona » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:44 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:Get out Gillet and Hicks u lying arrogant conniving tramps and take that male prostitute Parry with you and that clown Moores who hasnt done a good thing for this club since he got here!

Bit harsh on Moores, that. It wasn't his fault he wasn't rich enough. I think he gave all that he could into the club. In the end he just made the wrong choice by selling out to these two c*nts. I've no ill bearing towards him. Parry on the other hand...

Its not about money, im basing it on his track record with Liverpool since 1991 when he became chairman, its been downhill since! david moores is an idiot, He inherited his money and has shown zero business acumen since he became chairman, we have been left for dead in comparison to man Utd in the commercial stakes....from Day one we have been on a loosing footing with him. He brought in Rick Parry for a start and then as his final act he sold the club to two bluffers not to Sheik Maktoum who is so rich he gave away 10 billion to charity last year....nice one david....What was his reasoning for not selling to the arabs/ ....they would run the club like a business....oh and the two americans were genuine fans.....oh deary deary me.
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Postby Red H » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:49 pm

Firstly great initial post, probably one of the best I've read. 

This is a really sad day for the club, in many respects.  I can only guess at the amount of disruption this can be causing behind the scenes. 
This shames us.  It is after all not a case of winning or losing but how you play the game, when it comes to the character of the club.  Win, Lose, Draw, none of us will ever support another team.  It is part of us, and this is more painfull than any loss to any team, because of the long term effects it could have on ther club.

As far as I can see the Americans have lead us up right up the Garden path.  Where is their understanding of the game, or our traditions ? Where is the new Stadium ? Why only go half way with transfer funds ?  Why sit in an Ivory Tower when it comes to the stewardship of the club?  T

There are so many other qustions, but what the point.  It's not as if they have any intention of entering into a dialogue with any of us.  More the pity.

Should they decide to sack Rafa (otherwise what do they think they're doing) we could be in serious trouble.  Who are we going to get that's better, given the treatment of the prevoius incumbent.  What will we do with the Spanish players ?  How will we keep our best home grown ?
The youth team etc.

The best possible outcome I can think of is that we can attract a new set of owners, with different methods and priorities.
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Postby J*o*n*D*o*e » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:58 pm

Dundalk wrote:Does anyone think Rafa was told about this meeting some time ago or are we to believe he found out today?

i wouldnt be surprised if he was told at the meeting in december along with an explanation, if not then can you see him staying
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Postby Bermenstein » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:16 pm

In addition to the thread starters topic, I thought I would add some views I found at liverpool.kop relevant to the subject here.

By J.Kenwar


Liverpool - A footballing Phoenix ready to rise from the ashes

The death knell is sounding for Rafael Benitez, and the ominous drums of inevitable fate are banging louder and more frantically with each passing day.

It is increasingly clear that Rafa is on his way out of Liverpool. Reading between the lines over the last few months, it seems obvious that the club is conspiring and scheming behind the scenes, laying the groundwork for the future and preparing for the Spaniard’s exit.

I write this with genuine sadness as I can see, like so many others, that Rafa is a fantastic manager and fantastic man – exactly the type of character Liverpool need and deserve. He embodies everything that a Liverpool Manager should and shares many of the same personal qualities as Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley,Joe Fagan and Kenny Dalglish.

Despite his qualities, this season has, so far, been an unmitigated disaster on and off the pitch. Rafa’s perceived faults have been ‘discussed’ to death all over the net, so I won’t explore them here, but it is these faults (and in some cases limitations) that have played a major part in all the negative aspects of Liverpool’s season so far.

Gone are the triumphant cries of ‘Hail the Rafalution!’. Save for the blinkered blind-faith brigade, the relentless optimism that defined the first years of Rafa’s reign has all but disappeared, and the club is in turmoil, plagued with public recrimination, transitional uncertainty and maddening inconsistency on the pitch.

Whether it’s press conference petulance, public warfare with the owners, incessant rotation, formational inconsistency, poor team selection, depressingly negative tactics, persisting with mediocrity, refusal to consistently play the best XI, playing players out of position or pig-headedly ignoring deserving players, Rafa has to take much of the blame for many of the negativity both on and off the pitch.

The only thing negative that *hasn’t* happened is Rafa’s dismissal.

And if this *was* to happen, it would be the worst possible decision imaginable. I am a fervent critic of Rafa, but he does not deserve the ignominy of a mid-season sacking.

This is not the Liverpool way. The club has *never* sacked a Manager in mid-season, even when they deserved it! That’s left to the likes of Newcastle United, who will never understand the concept of Managerial consistency – something which explains why they have never and probably will never win the league.

It’s a well-worn cliché, but sometimes things have to get worse before they can get better. I truly believe that, right now, things are as bad as they are ever going to get under Rafael Benitez.

The same slide into the abyss happened under Gerard Houllier, but the difference is that with Rafa, I genuinely believe things *can* get better. I never felt that with Houllier, which is why he had to go.

Rafa has the skills and the ability to win Liverpool the league, but he is sabotaging himself with his stubborn refusal to change his managerial philosophy.

People can keep going on about what he did with Valencia, but that is IRRELEVENT now. Liverpool are not in La Liga – the Premiership is massively different to the Spanish League, and Rafa cannot just import the same methods, stick to them and stubbornly and hope for the best.

Whatever Rafa is doing in the Premiership is failing on a grand scale and this needs to change. As such, Liverpool fans should just write-off the league for this season. It's 'totalled' as Hicks or Gillette would say. Forget about it. Accept the title dream is gone and just deal with it. There’s no point feeling angry about it. What’s done is done.

There is still so much to play for though, and I for one am excited about the possibility of winning the Champions League again. Of course, this is not how any Liverpool fan wants it to be, but this is the reality.

There is an old Chinese proverb that is especially relevant to Liverpool’s current malaise:

‘A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials’.

Rafa has to learn from this season’s ‘trials’ and come back next season with a different footballing philosophy. Yes – I believe that Rafa should be given one more season, but only if he is willing to address his flaws that have been so painfully apparent this season.

I genuinely hope Hicks and Gillette have some patience and faith, and grant Rafa a second chance for next season. If Rafa learns from this season’s mistakes, then the sky could be the limit for Liverpool.

However – If he persists with his irrational stubbornness and does not make the changes required, then he will have no one but himself to blame when he ends up on the Liverpool scrapheap.

Come on, Rafa! Just swallow your pride and learn from your mistakes! The majority of Liverpool fans want you as the Manager, but you have to earn that loyalty. And to do that, you need to accept that you’ve strayed from the path and led the club in the wrong direction.

Everything is still possible!

Liverpool are like the mythical bird, the Phoenix. At the end of its life-cycle, the Phoenix builds itself a nest and sets itself on fire. Both the nest and bird burn fiercely and are reduced to ashes, from which a new, regenerated phoenix arises.

Liverpool’s season is burning, but next season, Liverpool and Rafa can be like the Phoenix and rise triumphantly from the ashes
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Postby Homebooby » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:36 pm

Elchris wrote:I'm scared to open the papers , the sport websites ; because
I don't want to see the Headline " Benitez resigns from Liverpool " ,don't know how would i react to it .The damage done by the yanks is too deep, someone has to go. I just hope the americans do , all they was sweet talks and empty promises , always had a funny feeling about gillet and he looks like a leprechaun

I've just got the feeling (and this is probably me being over-optimistic) that is Rafa was the walking type of guy, he would have gone by now.

I think he is playing the smartest move he can at the time with the hand that he has been dealt. Pay me off, or make yourselves look like the desperate 'cUntz' that you are. He seems to have the general backing of everyone just down to the pure nastiness of the situation and is doing himself no harm at all by keeping schtum.

Does anyone know if these yanks really have any money at all? Could surely the compo wouldn't be a problem if they were minted and wanted him out.

Maybe Rafa knows something we don't and we have ourselves a big game of poker?
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Postby Anfield rapper » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:46 pm

Pedro Maradona wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
Pedro Maradona wrote:Get out Gillet and Hicks u lying arrogant conniving tramps and take that male prostitute Parry with you and that clown Moores who hasnt done a good thing for this club since he got here!

Bit harsh on Moores, that. It wasn't his fault he wasn't rich enough. I think he gave all that he could into the club. In the end he just made the wrong choice by selling out to these two c*nts. I've no ill bearing towards him. Parry on the other hand...

Its not about money, im basing it on his track record with Liverpool since 1991 when he became chairman, its been downhill since! david moores is an idiot, He inherited his money and has shown zero business acumen since he became chairman, we have been left for dead in comparison to man Utd in the commercial stakes....from Day one we have been on a loosing footing with him. He brought in Rick Parry for a start and then as his final act he sold the club to two bluffers not to Sheik Maktoum who is so rich he gave away 10 billion to charity last year....nice one david....What was his reasoning for not selling to the arabs/ ....they would run the club like a business....oh and the two americans were genuine fans.....oh deary deary me.

Couldn't agree more. The warning signs were there at the very start. Hicks and Gillet just don't have a clue. The first press conference was farcical. Hicks just looked like a fool. This club needs serious investment before it can compete with the likes of United and Chelsea. We were promised a new stadium by the yanks before they took over and now look at us.

My hope is that the real owners (The Royal Bank of Scotland) start putting some pressure on them to start delivering their promises and if nessecary force them to sell us to someone who can give us the investment required.

I can't believe Moores sold us to these two over the Arabs.
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Postby puroresu » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:02 pm

Its easy to have  go at moores but when the DIC got screwed there was many people on here saying how LFC did nothing wrong and thats how business works.
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