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[Reg]

TailSPIN...... some people just cant let go.

Give them 6 months and they'll be calling for T&T to come back.

[dundreamin]

i prefer nosedive opposed to tailspin. Nosedive has a certain panache:p

[Bad Bob]

Bizarre one, this.  Boiled down to essentials, we all agree that:

1) we were quite poor last season
2) we have been tremendously poor this season too

What's it matter if it's described as a "tailspin", "not good enough", or "FOL, we're a disgrace"?  It doesn't change the fact that we all basically agree: Rafa fecked up last season and Roy's managed worse this one.  Wake up folks...we're all in the posse.

[Greavesie]

1) we were quite poor last season
2) we have been tremendously poor this season too

how can you say 'too' when you said two different things?

I'm just being pedantic now but I don't see any other purpose for this thread

[Reg]

1) we were quite poor last season
2) we have been tremendously poor this season too

Agree we were 'quite poor' but the pig stickers still wanted their pound of flesh.

Of course looking back with the benefit of hindsight it wasnt so bad and this season is horrendous but you cant stick your pig and eat it.

Can you? 

[Number 9]

I think the club as a whole is exhausted but at the same time relieved....Its as if everything Liverpool has blown a big sigh of relief now the yanks are gone and found itself in limbo!
There is no doubt that their influence over the past 3 years was the primary factor in our demise...IMO anyone that argues with that is not worth talking to.

Yes Rafa lost it at the end and yes he bought some bad players...but he was not solely focused on his job due to in fighting and off field politics...but did he start a tailspin??
No......He failed to get the best from the team last season and in fairness probably over achieved the season before.
The club was rotting from the core,there was no harmony between board and manager.Rafa wanted the best for us,he loved the club and the fans...he did not get it.He got the same as us from his 'bosses' LIES AND DECEPTION!!

So the question is still here...are we in a tailspin??
Personally I think we are in a transitional period.We have been taken close to the gutter of administration and survived..We are feeling embarrassed and humiliated as fans but we need to remember that the club is still a mess and will remain that way until NESV start acting on their words!

The new manager is not helping though.He talked big and has so far failed to implement his words!
TBH his team selections and tactics and his fear anger me!
Roy needs to know that LFC fans will love the manager and every player that wears the shirt as long as they go out and give everything to win..all we want is a will to win and passion on the pitch,just give 100%!No one wants to see a counter attack when only 2 men go forward and the rest stay back on the halfway line incase they counter back...its pathetic!

No we are not in a tailspin...but if Roy does not change his philosophy on what playing football is we will be.....I'll give him to January,I'll nail my flag to the mast on that in fact...won't sit on the fence and will categorically state that I am anti Roy...he is just not the man to bring us back to where we should be..its that simple!

[Simari]

So ask yourself this question, is that Liverpool in there?


Tailspin?

[Reg]

I think the club as a whole is exhausted but at the same time relieved....Its as if everything Liverpool has blown a big sigh of relief now the yanks are gone and found itself in limbo!
There is no doubt that their influence over the past 3 years was the primary factor in our demise...IMO anyone that argues with that is not worth talking to.

Yes Rafa lost it at the end and yes he bought some bad players...but he was not solely focused on his job due to in fighting and off field politics...but did he start a tailspin??
No......He failed to get the best from the team last season and in fairness probably over achieved the season before.
The club was rotting from the core,there was no harmony between board and manager.Rafa wanted the best for us,he loved the club and the fans...he did not get it.He got the same as us from his 'bosses' LIES AND DECEPTION!!

So the question is still here...are we in a tailspin??
Personally I think we are in a transitional period.We have been taken close to the gutter of administration and survived..We are feeling embarrassed and humiliated as fans but we need to remember that the club is still a mess and will remain that way until NESV start acting on their words!

The new manager is not helping though.He talked big and has so far failed to implement his words!
TBH his team selections and tactics and his fear anger me!
Roy needs to know that LFC fans will love the manager and every player that wears the shirt as long as they go out and give everything to win..all we want is a will to win and passion on the pitch,just give 100%!No one wants to see a counter attack when only 2 men go forward and the rest stay back on the halfway line incase they counter back...its pathetic!

No we are not in a tailspin...but if Roy does not change his philosophy on what playing football is we will be.....I'll give him to January,I'll nail my flag to the mast on that in fact...won't sit on the fence and will categorically state that I am anti Roy...he is just not the man to bring us back to where we should be..its that simple!

EXCELLENT POST 9'er, excellent. Balanced, impartial and accurate.


The pig stickers wont like it at all.

[Igor Zidane]

I think the club as a whole is exhausted but at the same time relieved....Its as if everything Liverpool has blown a big sigh of relief now the yanks are gone and found itself in limbo!
There is no doubt that their influence over the past 3 years was the primary factor in our demise...IMO anyone that argues with that is not worth talking to.

Yes Rafa lost it at the end and yes he bought some bad players...but he was not solely focused on his job due to in fighting and off field politics...but did he start a tailspin??
No......He failed to get the best from the team last season and in fairness probably over achieved the season before.
The club was rotting from the core,there was no harmony between board and manager.Rafa wanted the best for us,he loved the club and the fans...he did not get it.He got the same as us from his 'bosses' LIES AND DECEPTION!!

So the question is still here...are we in a tailspin??
Personally I think we are in a transitional period.We have been taken close to the gutter of administration and survived..We are feeling embarrassed and humiliated as fans but we need to remember that the club is still a mess and will remain that way until NESV start acting on their words!

The new manager is not helping though.He talked big and has so far failed to implement his words!
TBH his team selections and tactics and his fear anger me!
Roy needs to know that LFC fans will love the manager and every player that wears the shirt as long as they go out and give everything to win..all we want is a will to win and passion on the pitch,just give 100%!No one wants to see a counter attack when only 2 men go forward and the rest stay back on the halfway line incase they counter back...its pathetic!

No we are not in a tailspin...but if Roy does not change his philosophy on what playing football is we will be.....I'll give him to January,I'll nail my flag to the mast on that in fact...won't sit on the fence and will categorically state that I am anti Roy...he is just not the man to bring us back to where we should be..its that simple!

I think that is the most fairest and balanced post i've seen oh here for ages . Spot on baz .

[Bad Bob]

1) we were quite poor last season
2) we have been tremendously poor this season too

Agree we were 'quite poor' but the pig stickers still wanted their pound of flesh.

Of course looking back with the benefit of hindsight it wasnt so bad and this season is horrendous but you cant stick your pig and eat it.

Can you? 

I thought it was time for Rafa to go, Reg.  Does that make me a pig sticker?

Listen, a lot of the time you're on here bemoaning the lack of unity and dignity and yet every once in a while you love to stir the pot yourself.  What gives?

[stmichael]

I think the club as a whole is exhausted but at the same time relieved....Its as if everything Liverpool has blown a big sigh of relief now the yanks are gone and found itself in limbo!
There is no doubt that their influence over the past 3 years was the primary factor in our demise...IMO anyone that argues with that is not worth talking to.

Yes Rafa lost it at the end and yes he bought some bad players...but he was not solely focused on his job due to in fighting and off field politics...but did he start a tailspin??
No......He failed to get the best from the team last season and in fairness probably over achieved the season before.
The club was rotting from the core,there was no harmony between board and manager.Rafa wanted the best for us,he loved the club and the fans...he did not get it.He got the same as us from his 'bosses' LIES AND DECEPTION!!

So the question is still here...are we in a tailspin??
Personally I think we are in a transitional period.We have been taken close to the gutter of administration and survived..We are feeling embarrassed and humiliated as fans but we need to remember that the club is still a mess and will remain that way until NESV start acting on their words!

The new manager is not helping though.He talked big and has so far failed to implement his words!
TBH his team selections and tactics and his fear anger me!
Roy needs to know that LFC fans will love the manager and every player that wears the shirt as long as they go out and give everything to win..all we want is a will to win and passion on the pitch,just give 100%!No one wants to see a counter attack when only 2 men go forward and the rest stay back on the halfway line incase they counter back...its pathetic!

No we are not in a tailspin...but if Roy does not change his philosophy on what playing football is we will be.....I'll give him to January,I'll nail my flag to the mast on that in fact...won't sit on the fence and will categorically state that I am anti Roy...he is just not the man to bring us back to where we should be..its that simple!

good post.

roy won't change his philosophy though. managers never do. they're the most stubborn people in the world.

[Reg]

I thought it was time for Rafa to go, Reg.  Does that make me a pig sticker?

Are you partial to a little pork, Bob?   

[Kash_Mountain]

I think the club as a whole is exhausted but at the same time relieved....Its as if everything Liverpool has blown a big sigh of relief now the yanks are gone and found itself in limbo!
There is no doubt that their influence over the past 3 years was the primary factor in our demise...IMO anyone that argues with that is not worth talking to.

Yes Rafa lost it at the end and yes he bought some bad players...but he was not solely focused on his job due to in fighting and off field politics...but did he start a tailspin??
No......He failed to get the best from the team last season and in fairness probably over achieved the season before.
The club was rotting from the core,there was no harmony between board and manager.Rafa wanted the best for us,he loved the club and the fans...he did not get it.He got the same as us from his 'bosses' LIES AND DECEPTION!!

So the question is still here...are we in a tailspin??
Personally I think we are in a transitional period.We have been taken close to the gutter of administration and survived..We are feeling embarrassed and humiliated as fans but we need to remember that the club is still a mess and will remain that way until NESV start acting on their words!

The new manager is not helping though.He talked big and has so far failed to implement his words!
TBH his team selections and tactics and his fear anger me!
Roy needs to know that LFC fans will love the manager and every player that wears the shirt as long as they go out and give everything to win..all we want is a will to win and passion on the pitch,just give 100%!No one wants to see a counter attack when only 2 men go forward and the rest stay back on the halfway line incase they counter back...its pathetic!

No we are not in a tailspin...but if Roy does not change his philosophy on what playing football is we will be.....I'll give him to January,I'll nail my flag to the mast on that in fact...won't sit on the fence and will categorically state that I am anti Roy...he is just not the man to bring us back to where we should be..its that simple!

good post.

roy won't change his philosophy though. managers never do. they're the most stubborn people in the world.

IMO, giving him until January might be to late by then. I'd give him only another 2 possibly 3 more games.

Usually when a new manager comes into a club, players normally perk themselves up to impress the boss, however that definately hasn't happened. There does not seem to be any inspiration etc from the manager. The players are not responding to the tactics employed by Roy.

If we don't win the next 3 games then "tailspin", "freefall", "nosedive" it is.  Blackburn will be a tough game.

[Thommo's perm]

I think the club as a whole is exhausted but at the same time relieved....Its as if everything Liverpool has blown a big sigh of relief now the yanks are gone and found itself in limbo!
There is no doubt that their influence over the past 3 years was the primary factor in our demise...IMO anyone that argues with that is not worth talking to.

Yes Rafa lost it at the end and yes he bought some bad players...but he was not solely focused on his job due to in fighting and off field politics...but did he start a tailspin??
No......He failed to get the best from the team last season and in fairness probably over achieved the season before.
The club was rotting from the core,there was no harmony between board and manager.Rafa wanted the best for us,he loved the club and the fans...he did not get it.He got the same as us from his 'bosses' LIES AND DECEPTION!!

So the question is still here...are we in a tailspin??
Personally I think we are in a transitional period.We have been taken close to the gutter of administration and survived..We are feeling embarrassed and humiliated as fans but we need to remember that the club is still a mess and will remain that way until NESV start acting on their words!

The new manager is not helping though.He talked big and has so far failed to implement his words!
TBH his team selections and tactics and his fear anger me!
Roy needs to know that LFC fans will love the manager and every player that wears the shirt as long as they go out and give everything to win..all we want is a will to win and passion on the pitch,just give 100%!No one wants to see a counter attack when only 2 men go forward and the rest stay back on the halfway line incase they counter back...its pathetic!

No we are not in a tailspin...but if Roy does not change his philosophy on what playing football is we will be.....I'll give him to January,I'll nail my flag to the mast on that in fact...won't sit on the fence and will categorically state that I am anti Roy...he is just not the man to bring us back to where we should be..its that simple!

good post.

roy won't change his philosophy though. managers never do. they're the most stubborn people in the world.

So are women
Eh ciggy?

[Greavesie]

jaysus Thommo you really do look for it