Sissoko's tackle - Out of order

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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:58 am

JBG wrote:
A.B. wrote:Diouf dived and thats why he got kicked on the ground, however I don't recomend those kind of tackles.

The FA has decided NOT to punish Sissoko for the incident, according to BBC.

I'm going to play Devil's Advocare here and say the FA were wrong not to investigate Sissoko's stamp on Diouff.

Gerrard's was an accident and Kevin Nolan wanted no further investigation.

However, Sissoko's stamp was very much intentional. It just shows how weak the game's governing bodies can be. While Sissoko's stamp was nasty is probably wasn't potentially career threatening like Essien's tackle on Hamman. However, had the tackle been on Ruud Van Nistlerooy or a Chelsea player instead of a universally disliked Bolton player there would have been uproar in the papers and the FA would have taken action.

For selfish reasons I'm glad they aren't (for Liverpool's sake) but it does show the hypocricy in football.

The FA could not take actions against either Gerrard or Sissoko. The referee had included the incidents in his report and under FA rules they can only review an incident that the referee has not seen.

I disagree somewhat with you comment that Sissoko should shoul ddirect his nastiness the way Roy Keane did. Did you not forget Roy Keanes career ending tackle on Alfe Inge Haaland, that was done by his own admission as revenge. Sissoko was stupid to risk the tackle but it was hardly a career threatening tackle, he was just giving Diouf some payback for persistently cheationg throughout the game. I'm sure Carragher would of been the one is Sissoko hadn't.

I think Sissoko is creating a his own persona and hopefully he will become the new Vieira with regards steel and aggresion, then we will be fit to tackle any situation.
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Postby dawson99 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:30 am

he just needs a chat. we need some aggression in midfield but not in the illegal form. i was glad diouff got hurt, but glad it was not a bad injury as i wouldnt wish that on anyone. diouff was diving non stop tho and i think sissoko lost his cool.

but we dont wanna change him too much. he was looking alil tired (as was everyone in the team)
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Postby hobbes » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:08 am

Sissoko and Gerrard both have been cleared by F.A. Nothing wrong with the challenge and nothing wrong with the decision.
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Postby AlanHansen » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:19 am

Effes wrote:I think while we've got Didi as cover then we wont be affected that much by any bans that Momo gets.
Next season though, he'll have to watch it as Didi will be gone then.

I thought didi was offered an extension?

Imo, the comparison to Viera is a good one, he used to get sent off all the time but he cleaned up his act as he got older and Momo will do the same.

On the tackle itself, the ref said he saw it at the time so the FA couldn't investigate it further even if they wanted it to, I thought it was out of order regardless of it being Diouf, you don't stamp on a player on the ground.  :no
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Postby Effes » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:23 am

I thought this was Didi's last season? I'm probably wrong there, can anyone clarify?

I think Momo has been good, but nowhere near the player Viera was - YET.
I too think the stamp on Diouf was wrong.
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Postby tubby » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:24 am

There ois no doubt that Sissoko can be rough at times, i knew this before he even signed watching him at Valencia. I said yep if hes gonna be the next Viera then at least he knows how to get red carded. LOL


Anyway yes i know there rough but theres a big difference between some of his tackles and some of Essiens tackles against Hamman and BenHaim ect.....I think Sissoko is is a great tackles at times. He can really get in between someones feet and grab the ball away but i just think he goes in too hard sometimes. The lad has bags of energy and has played a lot this season. He wel suited to the premiership in terms of his sytle of play but im not going to moan too much about him. Its been a while since weve had a player like him in terms of roughness. He just needs to improve his desicion making a bit.
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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:33 am

Sorry but it may have looked bad but I have been on the receiving end of worse tackles than that and i've continued playing. It was no where near a horror tackle - Diouf played on didn't he, can't of done that much damage. Sissoko probably shouldn't of risked it but there is way too much exaggerated talk of it at the moment
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Postby AlanHansen » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:39 am

Effes wrote:I thought this was Didi's last season? I'm probably wrong there, can anyone clarify?

http://www.tribalfootball.com/december/englhnews1221205.html
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Postby Effes » Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:41 am

AlanHansen wrote:
Effes wrote:I thought this was Didi's last season? I'm probably wrong there, can anyone clarify?

http://www.tribalfootball.com/december/englhnews1221205.html

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Postby Garymac » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:33 pm

I think if anyone else would have been on the floor, Sissoko might not have did what he did but i know that doesnt make it ok, fact is Diouf was being a wind up merchant from 1st minute and was asking for it, another Diouf dive saw Carra smash the ball at him and it got Carra booked, he was winding the whole team up and imho he got what was coming to him the cheating horrible little tw*t.

Ok it might not have been the right thing to do and Momo can put a dangerous tackle in but if that had been nolan i doubt he would have commited the same offence.

He is very comparable with a young Vieira and if you look when Vieira 1st arrived he was a nasty piece of work but he matured into one of the finest footballers in the league, this is all part of a learning curve for Momo.
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Postby Kukilon » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:57 pm

The stomp on Diouf knee was horrible and he was lucky to get away with it.
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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:55 pm

the stomp? its not the west end!! :D
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:00 pm

JBG wrote:I'm going to be controversial here and condemn Momo Sissoko's tackle on El Hadji Diouff, which was nasty, reckless, irresponsible and dangerous.

No, this is not a wind up. I know Diouff is a prat and I'm not concerned whatsoever with Diouff.

My concern is Sissoko. He's been guilty of some severe tackling this season, some of it genuinely unintentional, some of it reckless and some of it downright dangerous.

We criticize Essien but there is a nasty streak in Momo. Nastiness can be good if its moulded into a ruthless streak ala Roy Keane in its pomp, but Benitez needs to get hold of Momo and take charge of the situation, as if it goes unchecked, he's going to get himself and also the team in trouble.

Momo will see himself sent off in a tight game because he cannot control himself, possibly costing us the match. What if he did something similar in a tight Champions League tie against a top Italian side, with a fussy ref, and got himself sent off? Considering this, his nastiness is reckless and irresponsible to the team.

A really bad tackle could also land him a lengthy ban, hurting himself and the club.

He's also putting himself under severe pressure as the media will eventually pick up on this and he'll get hounded for it. At 21, he could do without being under the spot light.

Most importantly of all, he could end up finishing some player's career. While I know few would shed a tear if that happened to Diouff, what about if Momo broke some kid like Steven Davis or Steven Ireland's leg? Where's the justice in that?

I like Sissoko and its great to see a kid giving so much for the shirt, but the guy needs to sharpen up. I know previous Liverpool players like Graeme Souness had a nasty streak, but they were largely able to curb it to their and the team's advantage. Going around and rountinely hacking guys out of it (and sometimes when the ball has long left the scene) is only a recipe for a disaster and something needs to be said to the lad.

I agree, he needs to curb the aggression, which I beleive is misplaced energy ratheer than a will to hurt people, and channel it better. His tackling will improve with experience though.

I am equally appauled to see a thread eulogising the injury sustained by Michael Essien going strong.
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Postby shanks » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:05 pm

i ave 2 agree it was a dirty tackle by Sissoko but in saying that  Diouf is dirtier spitting ,as a former manger cloughie once said if u get sent off make sure the buggar other goes off to, meaning on a streacher.
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Postby Reinas No.1 Fan » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:12 pm

The tackle was wrong I agree but he only did what every LFc player and fan wanted to do to diouf for all the cheating he was doing

I laughed when he did it cos Diouf was doing my nut in.

Still no excuse for a pro football player tho.
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