Liverpool FC Forum

[yckatbjywtbiastkamb]

****** the lot of you ******, when we are losing you are like 'get Rafa out', when we're winning your like 'that guy Benitez is a god'. This is a transistional eriod for LFC, RB is trying his best but it is clear that he is working with some shi players Diao, Biscan, Traore, Smicer to name but a few. He has to have time to get the right blend of players and tactics.

So shut the ****** UP!

in my time posting here i think i`ve come across probably two posters who want rafa out, the rest understand that even if we were awash with cash the transfer windows these days limits what a coach can do. in the last one he brought morientes in which most clubs would be made up with.
99% of the posters here back rafa knowing he has performed a minor miracle considering the injuries and politics of the current situation.

[Leonmc0708]

Its over guys & gals......... We can't get 4th place now. Just look at this season. I don't even think we went 5 games unbeaten the whole season. Lets not kid ourselves. Do you really think we can beat arsenal, blue sh1ts, tottenham, boro by playing like this.........


1)Rafa - At the beginning of the season, i was sure, rafa is the best manager we can get. Now, i am still behind him, but i getting more & more doubts if he can adapt in this league. He has made quite a few "houllier" howlers this season. His insistance on playing 4-5-1 is baffling seeing that we don't have players capable of buliding from the back... we don't have players who can kepp possestion.... 

Why doesn't he start with nunez on the right and play 4-4-2 ? We have won so many league games playing like that.

Why take off baros, when we are a goal down ? Baros had a sh1t game, but he was up on his own. Baros looks like he is surely off this summer. A pity because he has been our best striker this season. It will cost a lot to get another striker (at least as good as baros).

Baros has taken a lot of sh1t during houlliers time (who wouldn't if they had to play 2nd bananas to heskey). Now after proving himself at euro 2004, he is still not guarenteed 1st team football....I can understand why he was pi$$ed on missing out on the league cup.

And oh yes...garcia will get picked for everygame, even though he gives away the balls numerous times.

And you guys really think morientas & cisse can do the job by themselves next season ?

We have blamed a lot of players this season. Gerrard has taken a lot of sh1t. Baros...recently seem to be (all_of_a_sudden) not good enuff for liverpool (in some members view), but rafa seems to be above blame .... i don't get it.

We should have gotten a few players on loan during the jan transfer. I said it then. I am saying it again.

2)Sh1t players. We have a lot of sh1t players. i can't believe how many matches this season we have lost as a result of a lot of our players not giving a sh1t during the match. Birmingham did the double against us....for **** sake. Baros & Carra seem to be the only players who give all for the team every match.

3)naive ceo - u can bet baros will leave for less than 5 million this summer.........why ? becos the higher-ups are too dumb to make players sign contract on time.  Gerrard will prob leave for 20 million. Hamann might leave for a free too.... Don't be suprised if kewell leaves for a million too. Its no wonder this club is in a debt....and it is not because of missing out on champions league previously.

4)Too many average spanish players - wait.....i am not anti-spanish or something like that..... But there is a reason why spain has not won any major tournments in recent history.  And the spanish players, rafa is buying are not even in the spanish national team....apart from alonso. Even morientas is not playing for spain at the moment (though i think he will back ..in the near future). And with more rumours of rafa buying even more spainsh players...who i have not heard off..... i dread to think of next season.


Don't get me wrong. I luv the team. Will support it till i die.

But at the moment, the players ......& to a certain extent, the manager have let me down, too many times. Just saw crystal palace against manure. If ppl say we have loads of players missing..... just compare our team today to theirs.... We easily outclass crystal palace at every dept. And we can't match their commitment.

Saying all that, hope we can win all our remaining games to get 4th spot. We can do it, if the players give 100% evey game

Here I present to you exhibit A in the "knee jerk over reaction" case the state versus LFC fans.

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[Iceman69]

cushty

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but again he could be saving them for wednesday. I cant understand it myself, surely 3pts yesterday was vital more so than the CL itself

when we win the European Cup you will see why he did it. 

  ...Now that does make me laugh!!..seriously though you dont really think we can win the CL? yeah maybe when have a team in place which can challenge for it, but reality is we can only hope we get through this round?..(and thats not by any means certain) and into the qtr finals, my heart says all the way to the final, but my head says dont be daft!

No one thought porto or monaco even had a shot or even knew they were in the cl till the final.  Now to say that we have a shot is very optimistic, but to say that we can;t get lucky with the draw is pessimistic, so in my effort to stay balanced I'll say that it will be hard, but we aren't out of it by any means.

[ivor_the_injun]

Everton are 8 points ahead with a game in hand.

If we win our game in hand, we'll be 5 points behind.

If we beat them in the derby, we'll be 2 points behind.

Everton are certainly not going to finish the season unbeaten. The real question is how many more points are we going to drop. I personally back us to drop a lot less than them, and I do think 4th is a lot closer than some people are making out.

However, let's not forget that we're a day of freak results away from 8th position. Two more games without a win, and results going against us elsewhere could see us plummet as low as 11th. At this stage of the season, we should have clear daylight ahead of teams like Middlesbrough, Bolton, Charlton and Spurs, but it's just not happening.

So, to recap - our season isn't over. We'd better get a f*cking grip pretty sharpish though, as teams below us are starting to put some decent results together.

[Iceman69]

The key is, to win the next two games, and see how they react to pressure.

They may cave in and start losing at home, like today, and dropping more points.

Remember the teams like west brom/ Crystal palace etc are fighting for their lives right now, so im not sure what evertons fixture list is like, but there will be no easy games for them.

and with added pressure, it will show. you've got to remember there is possibly 30 points left for us to gain.

theres no way the Blue Sh*te are gonna take maximum points so we have to capitalise.