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[babu]

don't know how any of you can condone sacking the manager in the middle of the season.

That is simply not on.

chavski did exactly that last season and that "saved" them to a certain extent...well at least they qualifiy for CL spot....

almost all premiership managers, pundits and experts did not favour the decision at that point of time ...

they gambled and it paid off very nicely....

what would have happened to them if they still hang on to scolari at that time?

I do not want to ask myself 4 months from now "If only we could have let rafa go, we probably could have saved the season..."

not saying I accept that reasoning, but if I did, it would not make any difference.

This is Liverpool, not chelsea.

[Big Niall]

don't know how any of you can condone sacking the manager in the middle of the season.

That is simply not on.

chavski did exactly that last season and that "saved" them to a certain extent...well at least they qualifiy for CL spot....

almost all premiership managers, pundits and experts did not favour the decision at that point of time ...

they gambled and it paid off very nicely....

what would have happened to them if they still hang on to scolari at that time?

I do not want to ask myself 4 months from now "If only we could have let rafa go, we probably could have saved the season..."

not saying I accept that reasoning, but if I did, it would not make any difference.

This is Liverpool, not chelsea.

So why can't LFC sack a manager mid season?

Do we have to sacrifice a season for some nobility?

[Emerald Red]

don't know how any of you can condone sacking the manager in the middle of the season.

That is simply not on.

chavski did exactly that last season and that "saved" them to a certain extent...well at least they qualifiy for CL spot....

almost all premiership managers, pundits and experts did not favour the decision at that point of time ...

they gambled and it paid off very nicely....

what would have happened to them if they still hang on to scolari at that time?

I do not want to ask myself 4 months from now "If only we could have let rafa go, we probably could have saved the season..."

not saying I accept that reasoning, but if I did, it would not make any difference.

This is Liverpool, not chelsea.

So why can't LFC sack a manager mid season?

Do we have to sacrifice a season for some nobility?

Because since when should we take examples from other clubs?

While we're at it, let's all go to games dressed as Batman and Robin, wear jester hats, and pull out the prawn sandwiches during games. Everyone should go to the official store before the game and buy a disposable plastic flag to wave about too.

[stmichael]

So why can't LFC sack a manager mid season?

Do we have to sacrifice a season for some nobility?

Of course they can but it isn't going to happen. That's the bottom line.

I'll put it in black and white for you. The club is a quarter of a billion pounds in debt. As it stands, no matter who the manager is and no matter what players are brought and sold the outcome will inevitably be the same.

There are no quick fixes. The club needs to be stabilised financially and a new stadium needs to be built aswell.

[dawson99]

So why can't LFC sack a manager mid season?

Do we have to sacrifice a season for some nobility?

Of course they can but it isn't going to happen. That's the bottom line.

I'll put it in black and white for you. The club is a quarter of a billion pounds in debt. As it stands, no matter who the manager is and no matter what players are brought and sold the outcome will inevitably be the same.

There are no quick fixes. The club needs to be stabilised financially and a new stadium needs to be built aswell.

so we got him until the new stadium is built?

ur pulling my giblets mate

[puroresu]

I can understand the call for sticking by the manager but everyone knows this only lasts so long.  Managers getting sacked is a reality and has to happen at times.  You cant just support the Manager for ever regardless of results.

[Sir Roger]

There is no chance of him being sacked
Who by? The yanks? Dont make me howl
He wont resign either
Hes here for the long haul. Get used to it

[lakes10]

Liverpool manager Benitez 'guarantees' top four finish 

Benitez is facing his most challenging time in five years at Anfield
Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez says he "guarantees" that they will finish in the top four despite their poor form so far this season.

Having begun hoping to challenge for the title Liverpool lie seventh in the table, 13 points behind leaders Chelsea and out of the Champions League.

"I am sure we can do it because I know we are better than the team you are seeing on the pitch," said Benitez.

"I can guarantee we will finish in the top four."

On Sunday, Liverpool lost 2-1 at home to Arsenal, despite scoring first.

That result, their sixth league defeat of the season, left them five points adrift of the Champions League places. And it extended their run of poor results to only three wins in the last 15 games, their last home victory having come against champions Manchester United on 25 October.

Benitez is facing the most difficult period of his five years in charge at Anfield, but insists he will not compromise his principles to get out of an uncomfortable situation.

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I don't think he was wise to say this, has he just heaped even more pressure on his threadbare squad, is it a big mistake or will it show the squad he means business?

dependabledennis
"For five years I think we were doing well," he said. "So we have to keep going in the same way because the club is stronger now in everything: the squad, the value of the club is better than five years ago.

"Yes, it is a bad moment but I still think we can improve.

"I think it is very important for any manager, but especially here in England, to be strong.

"You have to show you have an idea, you have your own people that you can talk with and analyse things and say 'This is the way to do things' and we have to keep going.

"The main thing for me is to come here early in the morning, do my job, go home still working a little bit and try to be ready for the next day.

"That is the way to do things and that is an example for the players - and they are doing the same thing.

"Everything can be improved and if we make mistakes we keep going.

"There are still 22 games to play so we know we have to change our target. Now it is to get three points against Wigan and then start thinking about Portsmouth (at the weekend)."

[lakes10]

"I can guarantee we will finish in the top four."


thats a big thing to say.

[Big Niall]

don't know how any of you can condone sacking the manager in the middle of the season.

That is simply not on.

chavski did exactly that last season and that "saved" them to a certain extent...well at least they qualifiy for CL spot....

almost all premiership managers, pundits and experts did not favour the decision at that point of time ...

they gambled and it paid off very nicely....

what would have happened to them if they still hang on to scolari at that time?

I do not want to ask myself 4 months from now "If only we could have let rafa go, we probably could have saved the season..."

not saying I accept that reasoning, but if I did, it would not make any difference.

This is Liverpool, not chelsea.

So why can't LFC sack a manager mid season?

Do we have to sacrifice a season for some nobility?

Because since when should we take examples from other clubs?

While we're at it, let's all go to games dressed as Batman and Robin, wear jester hats, and pull out the prawn sandwiches during games. Everyone should go to the official store before the game and buy a disposable plastic flag to wave about too.

What has any of this got to do with whether Benitez should be sacked?

[Big Niall]

"I can guarantee we will finish in the top four."


thats a big thing to say.

It means Jack sh!t.

We got 1 point from 12  against the other 2 teams in the CL (ignore the hungarians), and then in then 3 wins in 15(I think) in domestic football.

This is dire. Was Souness this bad? He bought all these guys and he is responsible for results.

What does he have to do to get fired? If we miss out on the CL we are fukked. Our finances will be gone and it will be a fight to keep Torres in a second rate team (Europa league my hole) especially when we need money.

I wish he'd resign but the money is too good.

[Judge]

theyre asking it on yahoo questions whether rafa should go etc??

click link

[dawson99]

theyre asking it on yahoo questions whether rafa should go etc??

click link

so?
theres probably a yahoo question asking what hand someone should wipe there a$$ with

[tubby]

theyre asking it on yahoo questions whether rafa should go etc??

click link

so?
theres probably a yahoo question asking what hand someone should wipe there a$$ with

Should Judge start wiping his own after taking a ?

Link

[Scottbot]

This is dire. Was Souness this bad? He bought all these guys and he is responsible for results.

What does he have to do to get fired? If we miss out on the CL we are fukked. Our finances will be gone and it will be a fight to keep Torres in a second rate team (Europa league my hole) especially when we need money.

I wish he'd resign but the money is too good.

Souness finished 6th in his two full seasons at the club so the answer to your question is yes he was this bad HOWEVER, Souness did not finish 6th the season after a strong title challenge and 2nd place in the table. Nor did he get the club to two European Cup Finals, a quarter-final place in the UEFA cup was the best he managed if my memory serves me.

If Rafa was a new manager who had just got to the club in the summer then in all likliehood he would have been sacked by now but this season isn't being judged in isolation. I'm sure it's being judged on the back of what was a very good season last time around. Hence, we're seeing a little bit of patience from the guys at the top. No doubt they'll get a bit twitchy if this run continues but I think the majority of posters talking as if a new manager is gonna come in any day now are being very premature, not as prematured as Micks assessment of Aquilani but I'd still says it's too early to be making any rash changes at this minute. No doubt Rafa needs a strong Christmas period though.

But to answer your question 'What does he have to do to get fired? - I'd say he needs to keep doing what he's doing for another 4-5 games. Absolutely no chance Rafa would resign, he loves the club, loves the city, loves the fans and loves his job. It's hard to get ya head round but that's why so many of the fans love him.