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[tubby]

Things may be bad now but they will get a lot worse if Rafa was sacked.

People keep saying this. So does that mean we'd only win two out of fifteen matches rather than three, and we'd be out of the title race after six games not ten, and we wou;dn't even beat Debrecen in Europe, and we'd be below Birmingham in the league as opposed to level with them?

Feck that, leave Rafa in charge.

You are just assuming any other manager would suddenly unlock the the teams potential that we almost done last season. That Rafa is the root of all problems and is effectively holding the team back. It's a fair assumption but a risky one too. What if he left and it wasn't the case? Then we were left with no top manager and probably after a while players would want to leave.

I really don't believe sacking him is the solution mate.

[Boocity]

I am afraid he has to go. The players have totally lost their confidence and he is not the one that will regain it.

If you remember Chelsea last year with Scolari, all over the place, brought in Hidink and with the same squad totally turned it around. This is what we need, a new direction with a coach that can get the player confident and motivated again.

Who would you propose? Can we afford to get rid of him?

I would go for Hiddinck or Maureen,

[tubby]

I am afraid he has to go. The players have totally lost their confidence and he is not the one that will regain it.

If you remember Chelsea last year with Scolari, all over the place, brought in Hidink and with the same squad totally turned it around. This is what we need, a new direction with a coach that can get the player confident and motivated again.

It's not just a case of new direction. We need new personal also.

You seem to think that our squad and Chelseas are the same. Chelsea have had for a while a very strong squad in all areas. Can we say the same thing for ours? How many of our squad would even get in the Chelsea team?

We need better players and until that happens we won't improve no matter who is in charge.

[agoodmentality]

I remember looking through the slats at melwood to get a glimpse of my heroes

I remember standing on the kop

I remember crying for the 96


HOW DARE YOU QUESTION MY LOYALTY TO THIS CLUB BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE A CHANGE OF MANAGER.

RAFA OUT

YNWA

Who is questioning your loyalty to the club?

The thing is mate if Rafa left what would happen next? Kenny take over? He has been out of the game for so long he would only be a short term solution. So assuming we scrape into the top 4 come end of season then what? What top manager is going to come in and want to manage us with the owners and next to no money knowing full well he will probably have to sell before they can buy?

We will end up with a yes man manager not worthy of managing this club. Things may be bad now but they will get a lot worse if Rafa was sacked.

Reasons to be Manager of LFC

1. One of the most succesful clubs in European football history.

2. Steven Gerrard

3. Fernando Torres

4. EPL best league in the world

5. Best fans in the world

need I say more ?

you talk like we are Newcastle or spurs.

WE ARE LIVERPOOL

YNWA

[mart]

I am afraid he has to go. The players have totally lost their confidence and he is not the one that will regain it.

If you remember Chelsea last year with Scolari, all over the place, brought in Hidink and with the same squad totally turned it around. This is what we need, a new direction with a coach that can get the player confident and motivated again.

Who would you propose? Can we afford to get rid of him?

I would go for Hiddinck or Maureen,

Time to get realistic. Neither of them will come.

[tubby]

I am afraid he has to go. The players have totally lost their confidence and he is not the one that will regain it.

If you remember Chelsea last year with Scolari, all over the place, brought in Hidink and with the same squad totally turned it around. This is what we need, a new direction with a coach that can get the player confident and motivated again.

Who would you propose? Can we afford to get rid of him?

I would go for Hiddinck or Maureen,

Hiddink who couldn't even qualify for the World cup with Russia? Well he has gone back to Chelsea as technical director anyway so that is out of the question.

Mourinho? Maybe yes but he wouldn't touch us with a bargepole with the present ownership.

[Emerald Red]

I am afraid he has to go. The players have totally lost their confidence and he is not the one that will regain it.

If you remember Chelsea last year with Scolari, all over the place, brought in Hidink and with the same squad totally turned it around. This is what we need, a new direction with a coach that can get the player confident and motivated again.

Who would you propose? Can we afford to get rid of him?

I would go for Hiddinck or Maureen,

Would you? Got 200 million in yer pocket?

[bigmick]

Things may be bad now but they will get a lot worse if Rafa was sacked.

People keep saying this. So does that mean we'd only win two out of fifteen matches rather than three, and we'd be out of the title race after six games not ten, and we wou;dn't even beat Debrecen in Europe, and we'd be below Birmingham in the league as opposed to level with them?

Feck that, leave Rafa in charge.

You are just assuming any other manager would suddenly unlock the the teams potential that we almost done last season. That Rafa is the root of all problems and is effectively holding the team back. It's a fair assumption but a risky one too. What if he left and it wasn't the case? Then we were left with no top manager and probably after a while players would want to leave.

I really don't believe sacking him is the solution mate.

I'm not assuming anything of the sort bav. The only assumption I'm making when people say "if you think it's bad now etc etc...." is that they are talking b0ll0cks.

It IS bad now, you could put Neil Warnock in charge (usual disclaimers apply) and he'd win more than three in fifteen matches with our players.

[tubby]

I remember looking through the slats at melwood to get a glimpse of my heroes

I remember standing on the kop

I remember crying for the 96


HOW DARE YOU QUESTION MY LOYALTY TO THIS CLUB BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE A CHANGE OF MANAGER.

RAFA OUT

YNWA

Who is questioning your loyalty to the club?

The thing is mate if Rafa left what would happen next? Kenny take over? He has been out of the game for so long he would only be a short term solution. So assuming we scrape into the top 4 come end of season then what? What top manager is going to come in and want to manage us with the owners and next to no money knowing full well he will probably have to sell before they can buy?

We will end up with a yes man manager not worthy of managing this club. Things may be bad now but they will get a lot worse if Rafa was sacked.

Reasons to be Manager of LFC

1. One of the most succesful clubs in European football history.

2. Steven Gerrard

3. Fernando Torres

4. EPL best league in the world

5. Best fans in the world

need I say more ?

you talk like we are Newcastle or spurs.

WE ARE LIVERPOOL

YNWA

History can only take you so far. Yes that will always be there but it means nothing if we are not challanging now either. Will we still be shouting 18 leagues and 5 European Cups in a few years if Utd overtake us?

We need more strength in depth in the team and there isn't any money for that.

Also not trying to have a pop at our history but why then have we had such a hard time attacting investment for the club? The owners are the problem.

[tubby]

Things may be bad now but they will get a lot worse if Rafa was sacked.

People keep saying this. So does that mean we'd only win two out of fifteen matches rather than three, and we'd be out of the title race after six games not ten, and we wou;dn't even beat Debrecen in Europe, and we'd be below Birmingham in the league as opposed to level with them?

Feck that, leave Rafa in charge.

You are just assuming any other manager would suddenly unlock the the teams potential that we almost done last season. That Rafa is the root of all problems and is effectively holding the team back. It's a fair assumption but a risky one too. What if he left and it wasn't the case? Then we were left with no top manager and probably after a while players would want to leave.

I really don't believe sacking him is the solution mate.

I'm not assuming anything of the sort bav. The only assumption I'm making when people say "if you think it's bad now etc etc...." is that they are talking b0ll0cks.

It IS bad now, you could put Neil Warnock in charge (usual disclaimers apply) and he'd win more than three in fifteen matches with our players.

All I will say is I hope am not in any position to say I told you so a few years down the line mate is if that happened it would be a long way back given how todays game is run. (touchwood) I just want the club to pick itself up and get back to winning.

[mart]

Also not trying to have a pop at our history but why then have we had such a hard time attacting investment for the club? The owners are the problem.

Uncertain financial times, and football clubs are generally not good businesses(at least not when you try to win a league).

[woof woof !]

History can only take you so far. Yes that will always be there but it means nothing if we are not challanging now either. Will we still be shouting 18 leagues and 5 European Cups in a few years if Utd overtake us?

We need more strength in depth in the team and there isn't any money for that.

Also not trying to have a pop at our history but why then have we had such a hard time attacting investment for the club? The owners are the problem.[/quote]
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Thats what history buys you ,,

[bigmick]

All I will say is I hope am not in any position to say I told you so a few years down the line mate is if that happened it would be a long way back given how todays game is run. (touchwood) I just want the club to pick itself up and get back to winning.

Mate I hope you don't get chance to say "I told you so" as well. If you are right and things get "a lot worse" if Rafa were to leave, i dread to think how low we might get. We are level with Birmingham, out of the title race after ten matches, out of the Champions league at the group stage where aside from beating the might of Debrecen 1-0 twice, we didn't win a match. We are out of one of the domestic cups, and we don't have a posse of mouthwatering youngsters coming through.

If you are right and things get "much worse" than that, then we'll probably get relegated.

[parchpea]

We just pay him off and send him away and I cant for the life of me see how that is more painful than watching him make the club a laughing stock with his shambolic management.I dont see why people are making this difficult.Look we may as well pay out now to remove him and try to recoup that by having a shot at getting 4th because I tell you now we aint getting there with this guy calling the tune.Someone somewhere needs to stop looking for excuses and have the nads to do what needs doing and get this fella out of the hotseat before he does any more damage.St Johns face said it all today and serves as a wake up call to anyone who had drifted into such a slumber under this regime that they forgot what Liverpool FC is all about and we dont sit back and accept this garbage Benitez is serving up each week.Its not acceptable.

[Boocity]

I am afraid he has to go. The players have totally lost their confidence and he is not the one that will regain it.

If you remember Chelsea last year with Scolari, all over the place, brought in Hidink and with the same squad totally turned it around. This is what we need, a new direction with a coach that can get the player confident and motivated again.

It's not just a case of new direction. We need new personal also.

You seem to think that our squad and Chelseas are the same. Chelsea have had for a while a very strong squad in all areas. Can we say the same thing for ours? How many of our squad would even get in the Chelsea team?

We need better players and until that happens we won't improve no matter who is in charge.

Agreed, but is that down to Rafa, he built this squad, he is the reason that our subs were Aquaman, Ngog and degan.

What makes you think the squad will get any better if we keep going with Rafa