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[Gerrard30391]

Well in my view, your view is wrong.

Nothing changes does it you tw@.

Life time bans for racism, then you come out and call everyone every name under the sun.

I was about to come out and apologise for what i called our manager last night, but you have me off big style.

Go back to school, learn some manners, some english and some respect, and maybe ill talk to you about football. Until then mate, stuff your views somewhere the sun dont shine.

Hey Greavsie....Lando is entitled to his opinion like everyone else!He has been on this forum long enough to know what is and is not acceptable and he sure as fuc,k does not need you telling him what is right or wrong.

Let the mods deal with that....not some 2005 blow in!

Yeh man, to true,

Just real grips my sh!t when every post he writes abuses someone, like i say i was gonna apologise for what i called rafa last night i.e. Fat waiter spanish, you get my drift. I just dont like the way he goes about it and it hacks me off big style.

My bad.

P.S Im Gerrard, not greavsie lad

[Number 9]

Well in my view, your view is wrong.

Nothing changes does it you tw@.

Life time bans for racism, then you come out and call everyone every name under the sun.

I was about to come out and apologise for what i called our manager last night, but you have me off big style.

Go back to school, learn some manners, some english and some respect, and maybe ill talk to you about football. Until then mate, stuff your views somewhere the sun dont shine.

Hey Greavsie....Lando is entitled to his opinion like everyone else!He has been on this forum long enough to know what is and is not acceptable and he sure as fuc,k does not need you telling him what is right or wrong.

Let the mods deal with that....not some 2005 blow in!

Yeh man, to true,

Just real grips my sh!t when every post he writes abuses someone, like i say i was gonna apologise for what i called rafa last night i.e. Fat waiter spanish, you get my drift. I just dont like the way he goes about it and it hacks me off big style.

My bad.

P.S Im Gerrard, not greavsie lad

I dont give a flying fiddlers fu'ck who you are with all due respect...Gerrard89770 or Greavsie768? so what?

And the fact that you had to say sorry for saying "that" is a good indicator that you began supporting the club in 2005 and have since became dejected due to lack of success like half the other idiots on here.

The manager has to go,its looking like that but he does not deserve lambasted,ridiculed and treated like a fuc'king @rse rag by dic'kheads on a forum!

[Gerrard30391]

I thought you were a decent guy to.

Ive supported the team since before i can remember lad.
Who wouldnt be dejected about the lack of success?

[Kop till you Drop]

Hi. New poster. but long time Liverpool Fan.

Worried about torres and Stevie departing if LFC don't finish top 4, as must be so frustrating in that team for those guys.

Not enough quality balls coming in for Fernando, not enough quality through passes, and he is better than anything Chelsea, Utd, City, or Ars*s have got up front. if we don't finish 4th I expect some serious bidding for "El Nino" from the money bags.

If Rafa went , I reckon he would go too. no doubt.

Stevie , seen better years, he could start getting "michael Owen career syndrome" soon and start disapearing in games. Age changes everyone and he is touching 30.

You can't defend any manager who has lost in Fa cup and at home to the likes of reading, burnley, barnsley etc. no excuse.

Don't blame the board as ....how many boards have ever been sacked?

I just don't think in 6 seasons, Rafa has built what I would call a "title winning" or strong enough squad.

will leave my judgement till may, if we are not in top 4, some serious debating has to be done at Anfield.

It's just so worrying to ALL Lfc fans, supposebly most successful club in the land, when your Aim is "4th Spot Every season"

Is that Acceptable top all of you?? Its always 4th spot IMO.

Not having a dig but ,  That is where i come out...

[loke]

Whelan likes Kenny for the job, even MCaTeer is getting bored with Rafa. You can't blame them, they can see whats happening to the team.

RAFA is less than 10% to blame? How do you work out the percentage he is to blame?

The players dont wanna play for him, he has brought the wrong players, we are out of everything we were in. If EVER there was time for change it's now.

Lando, I gotta commend your stance but you're just being stubborn now and you gots to open them eyes

How do you conclude that the players don't want to play for him? The effort was there for all to see!
The point about Torres and Mascherano getting Maxi in no matter who is the gaffer is complete a*se aswell, as Mascherano wants to leave!

SHAKE YOUR HEADS!!!

This media campaign is getting ridiculous now, as well. They can all f*ck off with their dirty little agendas.

Sorry but I'm confused, why do the media want to get rid of Rafa, apart form the obvious reason that they want to see Liverpool playing good football again.

BTW I didn't see the effort from the players, so it wasn't for all too see. In any case if they were putting in the effort then why did we not win, are they untalented_ If they are untalented then who's fault is that? Surely you can't claim that Reading have more funds and a better squad than us?

No the answer is simple,Rafa is a cancer who will kill the whole club if he is not cut out immediately, with Rafa we will not get 4th, Stevie, Torres, Mascha and reina will leave and we will be mid/table for many many years to come.

I get carded but this ^ goes unpunished?

Are we f*cking real on here or what?
F*ck the lot of you - I'm not wasting any more time trying to educate tools.

Sorry but are you trying to get me carded?

[loke]

Aside from Kenny are there any ex players that have not said he should leave? Has Fairclough said anything? What about Aldo? This is silly the ex players should be backing him.

Aldo is backing him, he was on SSN tonight.

 
So is Davy Fairclough,

David Firclough is my favourite pundit.He says it as it is and is very honest and willing to give everyone a chance

hmm is that because he says something you agree with instead of scaring you with radical thoughts of success.

I have no problem with people supporting Rafa but I want someone to explain why they support him, are the people supporting him happy at our season so far and how do they see things improving, do they think we will get 4th spot, if so how?

[loke]

Well in my view, your view is wrong.

Nothing changes does it you tw@.

Life time bans for racism, then you come out and call everyone every name under the sun.

I was about to come out and apologise for what i called our manager last night, but you have me off big style.

Go back to school, learn some manners, some english and some respect, and maybe ill talk to you about football. Until then mate, stuff your views somewhere the sun dont shine.

Hey Greavsie....Lando is entitled to his opinion like everyone else!He has been on this forum long enough to know what is and is not acceptable and he sure as fuc,k does not need you telling him what is right or wrong.

Let the mods deal with that....not some 2005 blow in!

Yeh man, to true,

Just real grips my sh!t when every post he writes abuses someone, like i say i was gonna apologise for what i called rafa last night i.e. Fat waiter spanish, you get my drift. I just dont like the way he goes about it and it hacks me off big style.

My bad.

P.S Im Gerrard, not greavsie lad

I dont give a flying fiddlers fu'ck who you are with all due respect...Gerrard89770 or Greavsie768? so what?

And the fact that you had to say sorry for saying "that" is a good indicator that you began supporting the club in 2005 and have since became dejected due to lack of success like half the other idiots on here.

The manager has to go,its looking like that but he does not deserve lambasted,ridiculed and treated like a fuc'king @rse rag by dic'kheads on a forum!

why doesn't he deserve to be ridiculed. Why is it ok to call the owners veery name nder the sun but the manager must be respected, I don't get that, but I suppose I'm not a proper fan who respects the Liverpool way like you do.

[Kharhaz]

why doesn't he deserve to be ridiculed. Why is it ok to call the owners veery name nder the sun but the manager must be respected, I don't get that, but I suppose I'm not a proper fan who respects the Liverpool way like you do.

He doesnt deserve to be ridiculed simply because he has put more effort into this club, work wise, than the two idiots we have running the club. With them its money, with rafa its work.

However, rafa does deserve the questions being asked of him. And he needs to respond with answers. The first answer being on the pitch itself, and therein, I feel, we are getting the answer.

[mjlfc09]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol....701.ece


Fragile belief is too easily lost in the dark

As the darkness takes hold over Anfield even Rafael Benitez’s biggest fans are worried he is running out of answers

Oliver Kay, Football Correspondent

In his turbulent first season as Liverpool manager, Rafael Benítez used to experience what those around him would call “black Mondays”. They were the days when he would arrive at work looking agitated, having barely slept since a bad result on the Saturday, and go home in much the same mood, having seen little on the training ground to raise his spirits.

They were the days that were supposed to have been consigned to the past, but in his sixth season at Anfield, darkness has engulfed Benítez and Liverpool.

Wednesday’s pitiful FA Cup third-round elimination at home to Reading, 21st in the Coca-Cola Championship, appeared to represent rock bottom, but if there is one thing that this season has taught Liverpool’s supporters, players and most certainly their manager, it is that the abyss they have entered seems to be bottomless.

These are dark times for Liverpool and Benítez. Whenever it seems there is light at the end of the tunnel, it turns out to be the headlights of an approaching juggernaut.

Yesterday’s bulletin on the injuries to Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres, ruled out of action for a fortnight and six weeks respectively, was typical of their season — not least because it was an accident waiting to happen, given previous prognoses — and typical of the manner in which the foundations of the team have crumbled over the course of the campaign.

The Benítez regime has begun to look doomed: doomed in the sense of persistent misfortune, which should have been guarded against, and doomed in that it is becoming hard to see any way out of this predicament.

There have been new dawns in recent months, most notably the victories over Manchester United and Everton in the Barclays Premier League, but they have proved to be false.

The days of being permanently one defeat from crisis are remembered with misty-eyed fondness; Liverpool have been on the critical list for some time.

The worst thing about Liverpool at present — and it is possibly the worst thing that you can say about any team — is that they seem to have lost all faith, all hope, all spirit.

The sense of belief that propelled them on a magnificent run last spring, when they thrashed Manchester United and Real Madrid during a two-month sequence that took them to within touching distance of that elusive Premier League title, has been replaced by a sense of gloom.

They look like a team that have begun to fear the worst.

Benítez has many qualities as a manager — far more than his detractors will acknowledge — but he is not the man you would choose to drag a team out of the grip of a full-scale psychological crisis, which this has become.

He has encountered such depressions on more occasions than he would like to recall during his tenure on Merseyside — even last season, before that surge towards the finishing line, where they were pipped by United — but never this deep or as sustained.

The mention of United is apposite. Sir Alex Ferguson’s team, with the memories of countless title triumphs to draw on, do not endure periods such as this. Their miserable runs might last weeks, but never months.

Their defeats are shrugged off as they prepare to give their next opponents the backlash. Liverpool, the failures of the past two decades playing on the minds of even their newest signings, have no such backlash mechanism. Defeats knock the stuffing out of Liverpool; anxiety overcomes them.

One Liverpool player observed in a private conversation two seasons ago that a team unbeaten in the Premier League until early December suddenly lost all belief after an ignominious 3-1 defeat away to Reading.

The realisation had come that they were not unbeatable and not, in all likelihood, title challengers. It hit them harder than they could have imagined. A few weeks after that, another player suggested that the spirit at the training ground had become so bad that “the place needs fumigating”.

The stale smell of depression was certainly not in evidence towards the end of last season, when Liverpool finished with a commendable total of 86 points, but, again, the failure hit the players hard.

So did the loss of Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid — Gerrard said it left him “devastated” — and, as it became clear that Benítez would not be given the financial backing to strengthen his squad, depression set in again.

By the time they lost 3-0 to Espanyol in a pre-season friendly in August, with the unsettled Javier Mascherano agitating to follow Alonso to Spain, the mood had become unaccountably bleak once more.

There are 101 reasons why this season has been a calamity for Liverpool. The sale of Alonso is a factor, as have been the persistent injuries that have restricted Torres to flurries of brilliance and left Gerrard in pain almost from the start.

But just about all the other factors — the litany of defensive errors late in games, the lack of flair, the loss of form of players such as Martin Skrtel and Dirk Kuyt — have their roots in that deep-seated psychological malaise.

If it were a simple technical or tactical issue, Benítez would be quick to identify and resolve it.

But as the darkness takes hold over Anfield — and over Melwood, the training ground — the worry among even his most ardent supporters is that, for the first time, he is running out of answers.
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This article is very depressing and the sad thing is that the author is 100% spot on.

[Emerald Red]

Purslow has stated that the position of the manager's job is not on the agenda or up for debate, so you sh*tehawks can talk about all the sh*te of the day until your faces turn purple, because at the end of the day, he's not being sacked. Now, enjoy your fruitless debate. The summer will come, and he'll still be here, and that is one thing I've not been wrong about in past situations like this.

[Number 9]

Purslow has stated that the position of the manager's job is not on the agenda or up for debate, so you sh*tehawks can talk about all the sh*te of the day until your faces turn purple, because at the end of the day, he's not being sacked. Now, enjoy your fruitless debate. The summer will come, and he'll still be here, and that is one thing I've not been wrong about in past situations like this.

Well i can appreciate that it seems a personal victory for you mate...but how does it benefit LFC?

Rafa is just not working for us lad...its fuc'king pitiful.

I cant understand anyone supporting him anymore..its not loyalty,its not the LFC way and its not right.FFS the man was in bits last night being interviewed.He needs to go for his own state of mind as well as the good of LFC.

Work hard,train for next game,we have quality and all that...ffs mate,he is gonna put us in more trouble and himself in a nuthouse sucking paella through a straw getting electric shocks in a red straight jacket singing ferry across the mersey with gary neville as a nurse,and jim bowing flashing the premier league cup saying look at what you could have won...not even able to get his BFH!

Its done,its gone,its tragic but he has to go!

[pop_gun]

I use to dislike gerard houllier (mainly 03-04 season), but i can positively say i hate rafael benitez. not only has he managed to dupe most supporters into believing he's the second coming, but has also managed to destroy the club, with regards to the team and finances. the pro rafa's (of this and other boards) argue the manager hasn't had funds! when anyone dares raise the little matter of £240m gross expenditure (almost £50m a season) they fall silent, then wait a few days and repeat their original argument.
with £240m we could've built a new stadium and been there for a season or 2 by now.

[Number 9]

I use to dislike gerard houllier (mainly 03-04 season), but i can positively say i hate rafael benitez. not only has he managed to dupe most supporters into believing he's the second coming, but has also managed to destroy the club, with regards to the team and finances. the pro rafa's (of this and other boards) argue the manager hasn't had funds! when anyone dares raise the little matter of £240m gross expenditure (almost £50m a season) they fall silent, then wait a few days and repeat their original argument.
with £240m we could've built a new stadium and been there for a season or 2 by now.

I stopped reading when you said you hate Rafa!

Why dont you fu'ck off.You cant support a club and hate a manager that has put 6 years of his life into it regardless of what he has achieved or in this case failed to deliver(in the longrun)..that is rotten to the core!

Posts like that are just not on and if I was a mod(which I never will be) I would kick your @ss off this board for good!

w@nker!

[made in UK]

Purslow has stated that the position of the manager's job is not on the agenda or up for debate, so you sh*tehawks can talk about all the sh*te of the day until your faces turn purple, because at the end of the day, he's not being sacked. Now, enjoy your fruitless debate. The summer will come, and he'll still be here, and that is one thing I've not been wrong about in past situations like this.

Well i can appreciate that it seems a personal victory for you mate...but how does it benefit LFC?

Rafa is just not working for us lad...its fuc'king pitiful.

I cant understand anyone supporting him anymore..its not loyalty,its not the LFC way and its not right.FFS the man was in bits last night being interviewed.He needs to go for his own state of mind as well as the good of LFC.

Work hard,train for next game,we have quality and all that...ffs mate,he is gonna put us in more trouble and himself in a nuthouse sucking paella through a straw getting electric shocks in a red straight jacket singing ferry across the mersey with gary neville as a nurse,and jim bowing flashing the premier league cup saying look at what you could have won...not even able to get his BFH!

Its done,its gone,its tragic but he has to go!

[pop_gun]

I use to dislike gerard houllier (mainly 03-04 season), but i can positively say i hate rafael benitez. not only has he managed to dupe most supporters into believing he's the second coming, but has also managed to destroy the club, with regards to the team and finances. the pro rafa's (of this and other boards) argue the manager hasn't had funds! when anyone dares raise the little matter of £240m gross expenditure (almost £50m a season) they fall silent, then wait a few days and repeat their original argument.
with £240m we could've built a new stadium and been there for a season or 2 by now.

I stopped reading when you said you hate Rafa!

Why dont you fu'ck off.You cant support a club and hate a manager that has put 6 years of his life into it regardless of what he has achieved or in this case failed to deliver(in the longrun)..that is rotten to the core!

Posts like that are just not on and if I was a mod(which I never will be) I would kick your @ss off this board for good!

w@nker!



what a little gobshyte u r.