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Postby Reg » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:45 pm

Rush Job wrote:I just cant believe this is Benitez`s decision, its the owners getting some money back before they fk off imo..

Thats a scary point mate.

Or, just reducing the debt level.
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Postby GYBS » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:46 pm

if keane didnt go this window he would of gone in the summer for even less money and we would of lost even more money on him .
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Postby Kharhaz » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:47 pm

redrover wrote:eggnog is for christmas not for life :D

WARNINKS - Eggnog is backup striker !

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Suit yourselves, made me laugh....
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Postby bunglemark2 » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:47 pm

Errrrr....considering the owners never actually wrote a cheque for 20M to start with, nor did they receive a cheque for 12M or whatever it is, they didn't actually "make" on this deal mate....
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Postby GYBS » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:47 pm

Reg wrote:
Rush Job wrote:I just cant believe this is Benitez`s decision, its the owners getting some money back before they fk off imo..

Thats a scary point mate.

Or, just reducing the debt level.

Maybe rafa didnt mind him going even if it wasnt his desicion to sell
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Postby heimdall » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:48 pm

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Rush Job wrote:I just cant believe this is Benitez`s decision, its the owners getting some money back before they fk off imo..

Thats a scary point mate.

Why not sell Torres then, if they are trying to cashin, why don't you guys stop making bullsh1t excuses for the manager, drag your heads out of the sand and smell the coffee, the club is in complete fecking turmoil, we have :censored: senior mangement, :censored: owners and a :censored: football manager, please someone buy us and do a complete clearout of management and half the useless feckers who are in our squad and have the cheek to call themselves footballers!
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Postby Sabre » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:48 pm

I've read that a the guardian couple of journos say this is a victory in Rafa's struggle with Parry.

Erm, even if Rafa is struggling and wants autonomy, normally, when you fight battles you want to be in a better position after the battle.

And I can't see how Rafa can think that he's in a better position with 12M that he can't use right now and with a player less to try to win the league.

I just can't see it.
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Postby Rush Job » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:49 pm

Kharhaz wrote:
Rush Job wrote:I just cant believe this is Benitez`s decision, its the owners getting some money back before they fk off imo.
Think about it we are fighting on 3 fronts and we have a manager that likes to rotate, there is no way imo Rafa would ever consider selling an important player in an area we are weak with a couple of hours left on the deadline and no chance to bring some one in.
Its a good job city never put in a 80mill offer for Torres.

If that was the case, im pretty sure we would have seen many more leaving the club. Thats why its a strange one.

Maybe bids were not put in for anyone else, to sell the way we have stinks of desperation IMO.
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Postby bigmick » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:49 pm

Look, the point is simply this. Is selling Keane a good idea given our other striking options for the rest of this season?

It doesn't really matter if you think he worth 20 million quid (I suppose given we've just flogged him for 12 the debate is over on that one anyway). It doesn't really matter if Parry bought him  :laugh: (sorry)  :( . It doesn't really matter if you rate him or not, whether he is a link player, can play up front on his own or whatever else. It doesn't even matter if he missed some sitters earlier on, or even whether we had treated him fairly or not.

The question is, is selling him right now without a replacement a good idea? And for those who are suggesting it's been done without Rafa's consent, I ask you in all seriousness knowing the manager like we all do, do you really think he'd put up with that? This is the man who wants total control of the academy, total control of transfers, total control over what players say under their breath when they're substituted and goodness knows what else. Do you really, seriously, honestly beleive that not only did Rafa not want Keane in the first place, but now he's here he'd kind of changed his mind and wanted to keep him, but not play him of course, just keep him. So he could just know he had him like.
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Postby Kharhaz » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:50 pm

heimdall wrote:
Reg wrote:
Rush Job wrote:I just cant believe this is Benitez`s decision, its the owners getting some money back before they fk off imo..

Thats a scary point mate.

Why not sell Torres then, if they are trying to cashin, why don't you guys stop making bullsh1t excuses for the manager, drag your heads out of the sand and smell the coffee, the club is in complete fecking turmoil, we have :censored: senior mangement, :censored: owners and a :censored: football manager, please someone buy us and do a complete clearout of management and half the useless feckers who are in our squad and have the cheek to call themselves footballers!

But then wouldnt that be the board making the decisions in which you put up your argument?
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Postby bunglemark2 » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:51 pm

bigmick wrote:Look, the point is simply this. Is selling Keane a good idea given our other striking options for the rest of this season?

It doesn't really matter if you think he worth 20 million quid (I suppose given we've just flogged him for 12 the debate is over on that one anyway). It doesn't really matter if Parry bought him  :laugh: (sorry)  :( . It doesn't really matter if you rate him or not, whether he is a link player, can play up front on his own or whatever else. It doesn't even matter if he missed some sitters earlier on, or even whether we had treated him fairly or not.

The question is, is selling him right now without a replacement a good idea? And for those who are suggesting it's been done without Rafa's consent, I ask you in all seriousness knowing the manager like we all do, do you really think he'd put up with that? This is the man who wants total control of the academy, total control of transfers, total control over what players say under their breath when they're substituted and goodness knows what else. Do you really, seriously, honestly beleive that not only did Rafa not want Keane in the first place, but now he's here he'd kind of changed his mind and wanted to keep him, but not play him of course, just keep him. So he could just know he had him like.

If that postulating was intended to confuse the bejaysus out of me, you just did a tremendous job, mate....
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Postby GYBS » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:52 pm

heimdall wrote:
Reg wrote:
Rush Job wrote:I just cant believe this is Benitez`s decision, its the owners getting some money back before they fk off imo..

Thats a scary point mate.

Why not sell Torres then, if they are trying to cashin, why don't you guys stop making bullsh1t excuses for the manager, drag your heads out of the sand and smell the coffee, the club is in complete fecking turmoil, we have :censored: senior mangement, :censored: owners and a :censored: football manager, please someone buy us and do a complete clearout of management and half the useless feckers who are in our squad and have the cheek to call themselves footballers!

yep lets put the club back another 5 years
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Postby heimdall » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:52 pm

Kharhaz wrote:
heimdall wrote:
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Rush Job wrote:I just cant believe this is Benitez`s decision, its the owners getting some money back before they fk off imo..

Thats a scary point mate.

Why not sell Torres then, if they are trying to cashin, why don't you guys stop making bullsh1t excuses for the manager, drag your heads out of the sand and smell the coffee, the club is in complete fecking turmoil, we have :censored: senior mangement, :censored: owners and a :censored: football manager, please someone buy us and do a complete clearout of management and half the useless feckers who are in our squad and have the cheek to call themselves footballers!

But then wouldnt that be the board making the decisions in which you put up your argument?

Bit confused but what I meant was if they were trying to cash in, wouldn't our beloved owners have sold Torres.
New owners can install anyone they want to, that is kind of one of the perks of being an owner, isn't it??
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Postby Bad Bob » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:53 pm

GYBS wrote:if keane didnt go this window he would of gone in the summer for even less money and we would of lost even more money on him .

Well, I suppose we'll all take some comfort in the fact that we saved ourselves some cash if Torres goes down injured and none of our other strikers are up to keeping us in the race. :glare:

Look, you can tart it up all you like but the naked, ugly truth is that we are now a striker light at a time when we can least afford to be.  I makes absolutely zero sense from a footballing point of view and, frankly, a footballing point of view is the only perspective that I think matters at the moment.
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Postby heimdall » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:54 pm

GYBS wrote:
heimdall wrote:
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Rush Job wrote:I just cant believe this is Benitez`s decision, its the owners getting some money back before they fk off imo..

Thats a scary point mate.

Why not sell Torres then, if they are trying to cashin, why don't you guys stop making bullsh1t excuses for the manager, drag your heads out of the sand and smell the coffee, the club is in complete fecking turmoil, we have :censored: senior mangement, :censored: owners and a :censored: football manager, please someone buy us and do a complete clearout of management and half the useless feckers who are in our squad and have the cheek to call themselves footballers!

yep lets put the club back another 5 years

Yeah cause it took Chelsea 5 years to win after Roman bought them didn't it?? What is this 5 year :censored: you keep quoting, just because it's taken Rafa 5 years to almost mount a challenge doesn't mean it takes everyone that long.
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