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[stmichael]

Looking back with hindsight I actually think that given the chance, the Crouch-Torres partnership would have worked.

Crouch was really good at creating panic amongst opposition defenders and freeing up space for Torres to exploit. We saw it in action against Arsenal in the CL quarter final.

[The Specialist]

John - I have given you some compelling facts about Robbie Keane and you chose to respond to somebody else

You haven't given me any compelling facts mate.  Facts maybe - in terms of his goalscoring record only.

You don't need to preach to me about Keane's goalscoring record (or lack of) throughout his career, I know all that, given the fact I am Irish I have always taken interest in Keane's career.  I have never argued against the fact that his goalscoring record isn't great and that only in his last season at Spurs can I remember him hitting the 20 goal mark.  Despite that I have always rated him as a player.

The only point I have argued against in this thread is that his perceived failure at Inter was significant.  It wasn't.  The fact he only made 6 first team appearances says it all.  They paid 12 million for him and stuck him in the reserves.  A 20yr old lad with only one season of Premiership football under his belt needs more than 6 games to prove himself in what was then a stronger league than the Premiership (at the time) all round, and a completely different style of football to boot. 

How many 20 year old players have successfully moved from the Premiership to a foreign club and flourished?  None.  How many players have come to the Premiership from Serie A at the age of 20 and flourished?  None.  Does the fact that Robbie Keane didn't manage to do it have any bearing on his performances 8 years later?  No.  He went abroad too young.

You criticise his goalscoring record since returning to the Premiership, and rightly so, but if you'd actually read any of my previous posts on the issue then you'd realise you don't need to debate that point with me.

And again, why are you bringing Michael Owen into this??

I simply said that criticising Keane's spell at Inter was daft, and it is, but don't turn this into a Keane bashing vs Keane happy clapper debate - because I am in neither camp.

John - We will have to agree to differ. You are now suggesting that no twenty year olds have flourished abroad. I am not talking about flourishing I am talking about him being an abject failure in Milan. There is a massive difference. If he had shown any potential in Milan he would have got his chance - he didn't.

As I have said I like Robbie and let's face it he was brought in to score goals. He hasn't so we get frustrated and criticise - it's human nature.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_2366811,00.html

[account deleted by request]

Story from above link :-

Internazionale president Massimo Moratti says he regrets allowing Robbie Keane to leave the club.

The Tottenham striker had a short stint in Milan after a £13 million move from Coventry City in 2000.

A year later, he was on his way back to England with Leeds United after a successful loan spell at Elland Road.

Moratti admits he is a great fan of Keane and should have showed more patience with the Republic of Ireland international.

"I admit Robbie Keane is a big regret," said Moratti.

"The other day, I was watching him play for Tottenham on the television.

"He had a perfect game.

"He had a thousand touches and not one mistake.

"It drives me mad!

"It was my choice to bring him to Inter. I liked him as a player, but he didn't shine with us.

"And now look at him!"

[stmichael]

Story from above link :-

Internazionale president Massimo Moratti says he regrets allowing Robbie Keane to leave the club.

The Tottenham striker had a short stint in Milan after a £13 million move from Coventry City in 2000.

A year later, he was on his way back to England with Leeds United after a successful loan spell at Elland Road.

Moratti admits he is a great fan of Keane and should have showed more patience with the Republic of Ireland international.

"I admit Robbie Keane is a big regret," said Moratti.

"The other day, I was watching him play for Tottenham on the television.

"He had a perfect game.

"He had a thousand touches and not one mistake.

"It drives me mad!

"It was my choice to bring him to Inter. I liked him as a player, but he didn't shine with us.

"And now look at him!"

swap for adriano  

[tubby]

Adriano? Whatever happened to him?

I think as long as Torres starts scoring when he gets back in the team then Keane will get longer to find his feet. And John no need for name calling I never called you a fecker so take that back please.

Thanks

[GYBS]

Adriano is back mate - had major personal probs but now is back scoring goals and enjoying his football . would have adriano in a flash

[maypaxvobiscum]

Adriano is back mate - had major personal probs but now is back scoring goals and enjoying his football . would have adriano in a flash

but where are we gonna get the money from?

[GYBS]

did i say lets go buy him ? no i dont think i did . if your going to quote things i have said in the past at least do it at the right time and when the reply is relevant .

[maypaxvobiscum]

did i say lets go buy him ? no i dont think i did . if your going to quote things i have said in the past at least do it at the right time and when the reply is relevant .

well how does it feel having a taste of your own medicine GYFS?

[GYBS]

umm how is it a taste of my own medicine ? you been saying buy this player and that player etc etc blah blah when i havent said anything of the sort as i realise that we dont have money to buy this player and that player so im not stupid enough to say so .

[maypaxvobiscum]

umm how is it a taste of my own medicine ? you been saying buy this player and that player etc etc blah blah when i havent said anything of the sort as i realise that we dont have money to buy this player and that player so im not stupid enough to say so .

its called suggestions and theres nothing wrong with that Kuyt-lover. all you do is retort ''where are we gonna get the money from'' or some other instead of discussing that player's potential contribution. thats the thing with you that i cant stand. never had and never will. tell you what, ive got a suggestion for you now - fark off. and dont ever quote/refer to/ reply/ question/ respond/ answer any of my posts again cause im sure you know by now that you annoy me.

[GYBS]

whats the point in suggestion someone from Football manager when we cant buy him due to lack of funds - so there is diddly sqaut point discussing a player and how they will change the team when we wont get him in the first place . simple really . and its called being realistic as opposed to dreaming.

[devaney]

So to try and give Robbie's time in Milan some credibility you rely on quotes going back to when Robbie was playing for Spurs. Now that he is playing at a different and far higher level would the quotes of admiration remain the same - I don't think so. I referred to Robbie's time at Milan because I am far from convinced that he is up to the job at Liverpool. Only time will tell and I will be very happy if I am proved to be wrong but Robbie's record of one Carling Cup in six years at Spurs is a country mile away from Liverpool's aspirations.

Milan was about development and the very high expectations have never come to fruition at the highest level.Oh and by the way I like yoghurt !!!

[maypaxvobiscum]

whats the point in suggestion someone from Football manager when we cant buy him due to lack of funds - so there is diddly sqaut point discussing a player and how they will change the team when we wont get him in the first place . simple really . and its called being realistic as opposed to dreaming.

hey seriously off. this is not the first time you're accusing me of ''football manager'' when i dont even play the game you @rsewipe.

[Rush Job]

whats the point in suggestion someone from Football manager when we cant buy him due to lack of funds - so there is diddly sqaut point discussing a player and how they will change the team when we wont get him in the first place . simple really . and its called being realistic as opposed to dreaming.

hey seriously off. this is not the first time you're accusing me of ''football manager'' when i dont even play the game you @rsewipe.

You need to chill lad and if you dont like the poster why dont you stop following him around bitching at every post he makes.