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[LFC2007]

Although it's pure guesswork, and anything could happen - I'd be surprised if Keane and Torres sustained injuries at the same time (*prays this never happens*). Both of them can lead the line, so if one gets injured, we're not completely fecked. If this were to happen and we were already playing a 4-4-2, we could switch to a 4-5-1, or bring in Kuyt/Babel to play up top with whomever is fit. Maybe even Ngog.

Voronin has no use and should be auctioned off on ebay at the earliest opportunity.

[Number 9]

I agree with a lot of what you say about w@nkfest and discussion Owzat, but as for strikers, I would rather go into the season with two quality strikers and having to hope they don't both get injured, rather than 4 cr@ppy strikers like Voronin and Kuyt and hoping they come good.

I really dont know what has become of you mate!!

With every post you are becoming more negative..I fear one day I will wake up come down have a coffee and you will have turned into Heimdall,with the eybrows and all!
Prozac and Kleenex on your lap!

[Judge]

why hasnt big mick waded in with a j k rowling style book of a post about how keane will fit into rafa's ROTATION policy....or is it too early

[Number 9]

why hasnt big mick waded in with a j k rowling style book of a post about how keane will fit into rafa's ROTATION policy....or is it too early

He's still in his study writting it!

[account deleted by request]

I agree with a lot of what you say about w@nkfest and discussion Owzat, but as for strikers, I would rather go into the season with two quality strikers and having to hope they don't both get injured, rather than 4 cr@ppy strikers like Voronin and Kuyt and hoping they come good.

I really dont know what has become of you mate!!

With every post you are becoming more negative..I fear one day I will wake up come down have a coffee and you will have turned into Heimdall,with the eybrows and all!
Prozac and Kleenex on your lap!

? Thats a positive post Barry. I think we DO HAVE two quality strikers NOW mate.

Or to put it another way, I would rather go into the season with Torres and Keane and hope that they don't both get injured, than go into the season with Voronin Kuyt, Crouch and Babel as our main strikers, and have to hope that they come good.

[kuyt4ever]

I think Liverpool have did a great job to buy Robbie Keane, he's a player how Liverpool needs

[redhayesy]

He's fast , He's red , He talks like father Ted , Robbie Keane , Robbie Keane ! 

great shout that mate! i hope the chant takes off
any other idea"s for him would be great to read.
cause i can"t think of one at this moment in time.
good luck robbie lad hope you make an instant impact
as i"m hopefull he will,i was impressed with the way the
deal went through, as it shows raffa knew what the
teams priority was in terms of replacing positions in
where it was most needed.

[Number 9]

I agree with a lot of what you say about w@nkfest and discussion Owzat, but as for strikers, I would rather go into the season with two quality strikers and having to hope they don't both get injured, rather than 4 cr@ppy strikers like Voronin and Kuyt and hoping they come good.

I really dont know what has become of you mate!!

With every post you are becoming more negative..I fear one day I will wake up come down have a coffee and you will have turned into Heimdall,with the eybrows and all!
Prozac and Kleenex on your lap!

? Thats a positive post Barry. I think we DO HAVE two quality strikers NOW mate.

Im talking about in general mate!
Lighten up...or I will personally come get you and post you to Norway.lol

No but seriously,i just felt that all that sell on fee cr@p between you and Owzat was a bit wrong and not necessary!Yes maybe in some peoples minds the fee for Keane was a bit steep...thats OK!
But we have signed a great player regardless of anything else and then you two go and bring it down by complaining that we may not get much IF we sell him on!

Let the guy pull the shirt on first eh??

[LFC2007]

I agree with a lot of what you say about w@nkfest and discussion Owzat, but as for strikers, I would rather go into the season with two quality strikers and having to hope they don't both get injured, rather than 4 cr@ppy strikers like Voronin and Kuyt and hoping they come good.

I really dont know what has become of you mate!!

With every post you are becoming more negative..I fear one day I will wake up come down have a coffee and you will have turned into Heimdall,with the eybrows and all!
Prozac and Kleenex on your lap!

? Thats a positive post Barry. I think we DO HAVE two quality strikers NOW mate.

Lighten up...or I will personally come get you and post you to Norway.lol

[account deleted by request]

I agree with a lot of what you say about w@nkfest and discussion Owzat, but as for strikers, I would rather go into the season with two quality strikers and having to hope they don't both get injured, rather than 4 cr@ppy strikers like Voronin and Kuyt and hoping they come good.

I really dont know what has become of you mate!!

With every post you are becoming more negative..I fear one day I will wake up come down have a coffee and you will have turned into Heimdall,with the eybrows and all!
Prozac and Kleenex on your lap!

? Thats a positive post Barry. I think we DO HAVE two quality strikers NOW mate.

Im talking about in general mate!
Lighten up...or I will personally come get you and post you to Norway.lol

No but seriously,i just felt that all that sell on fee cr@p between you and Owzat was a bit wrong and not necessary!Yes maybe in some peoples minds the fee for Keane was a bit steep...thats OK!
But we have signed a great player regardless of anything else and then you two go and bring it down by complaining that we may not get much IF we sell him on!

Let the guy pull the shirt on first eh??

Again I think you have read my post wrong mate. I was trying to make the point that his age is only a problem if Keane fails, which I then went on to say "I don't think he will".

I may not think Keane was the best player we could get, but he is better than what we had and I am quite positive about his role in our team and the new season.

Just because I think we got raped over the price doesn't mean I don't think he will do a great job for us. Just means I think we had to pay well over the odds to sign him.

If its any consolation, I thought at the time we signed him, that we had paid too much for Dalglish too.

[maguskwt]

the thing about villa is his price - would of cost 30 mil plus for him (and also 28)and when torres and villa play together torres does all the donkey work and doesnt score as much as evident in the euros - now keane can do all the work like kuyt for torres but keane has already proved he can score in the prem . i have always thought villa is a pipe dream and also a luxury we cant afford.

David Villa 03/12/81
Robbie Keane 08/07/80

So Keane is already 28, Villa won't be 27 for a few more months yet. I'm not sure anyone really knows what Villa would have cost, I know given a straight choice I'd go for Villa - probably anything up to £5m more. The problem I can see with Keane over Villa is selling, I doubt we'll get anything like the fee we paid for Keane if we sell a la Bellamy. Villa's tag will hold reasonably for a season or two, especially after the Euros. So in that sense I reckon we've signed a player with a greater rate of depreciation

Well lets think positive instead of negative for once!
Perhaps Keane will play out his career at Anfield and we wont have to worry about the selling bit.I really dont see the point tbh.The guy has not even kicked a ball for us yet and you are worrying about what we will get if we sell him...Come on?

Just maybe he will be a major success and will give us 4 years in the number 7 that we will remember long after he's gone!
As for David Villa,its done and dusted now,he is not coming and thats it so theres no point whinging about it any more!

it's weird isn't it... ppl don't see the transfers as they really are... this transfer is not about the future, this transfer is not about stop gaps, cutting costs nor a financial investment... this transfer is about the present... rafa bought keane not to sell back or make a profit later on but to challenge for the title now... it is a gamble, just like torres' transfer but if we are to challenge for the title in the present we need to be having gambles like this...

Yeah of course, we've signed Keane so the title is in the bag 

To compare it to Torres is laughable, not that much cheaper and quite a bit older. Torres scored quite a few more than Torres despite this supposed advantage of "proven in the Premiership".

And the point about the resale value, it makes the larger fee for a good player less of a gamble as the difference in price would be covered by the depreciation factor. Before we signed Keane you'd have wanted Villa over him every time, now we've signed Keane a number of people are going on like he's the star signing we've always dreamed of.

Don't get me wrong, I like Keane as a player but the fee is a bit steep for his age when a few more million could have landed us a better and younger striker. Jeez, you can't make any slight critical comment these days without the Irish inquisition jumping down your throat. This is supposed to be DISCUSSION, not winkfest 2008

whoever said that the title is in the bag? All I said is that Keane is for now, the present, to challenge for the title, he's not about resale value or whatever, that's why I said it's a gamble by benitez as we risk losing 15-16 million if indeed we cannot win the title with keane...

"a better and younger striker" you are obviously referring to david villa are you not? as for being 'better' i agree but 'younger' how much younger? oh wait 1 year... and a few more millions? if someone buys villa for 25-26 million I would agree with you (even if it's 5-6 million more and not 'a few millions' more like you said)...in all honesty villa's value would be in the region of 30-32 million after his exploits in Euro... until then you've got no case and your post is full of exageration...

when benitez buys ngogg ppl say too much for the future... when benitez buys keane ppl say where's the resale value?...  .... we just want everything don't we...

[Number 9]

I agree with a lot of what you say about w@nkfest and discussion Owzat, but as for strikers, I would rather go into the season with two quality strikers and having to hope they don't both get injured, rather than 4 cr@ppy strikers like Voronin and Kuyt and hoping they come good.

I really dont know what has become of you mate!!

With every post you are becoming more negative..I fear one day I will wake up come down have a coffee and you will have turned into Heimdall,with the eybrows and all!
Prozac and Kleenex on your lap!

? Thats a positive post Barry. I think we DO HAVE two quality strikers NOW mate.

Im talking about in general mate!
Lighten up...or I will personally come get you and post you to Norway.lol

No but seriously,i just felt that all that sell on fee cr@p between you and Owzat was a bit wrong and not necessary!Yes maybe in some peoples minds the fee for Keane was a bit steep...thats OK!
But we have signed a great player regardless of anything else and then you two go and bring it down by complaining that we may not get much IF we sell him on!

Let the guy pull the shirt on first eh??

Again I think you have read my post wrong mate. I was trying to make the point that his age is only a problem if Keane fails, which I then went on to say "I don't think he will".

I may not think Keane was the best player we could get, but he is better than what we had and I am quite positive about his role in our team and the new season.

Just because I think we got raped over the price doesn't mean I don't think he will do a great job for us. Just means I think we had to pay well over the odds to sign him.

If its any consolation, I thought at the time we signed him, that we had paid too much for Dalglish too.

Dalglish WAS a gamble back then though!
He was coming from Scotland for £440,000...I hope your scud to the number 7 continues!
Keane has a lot to do to fill that shirt...I think he can!!

[account deleted by request]

I will make my thoughts clearer

1/ Keane is a good player but not my first choice

2/ Keane will not score 20 league goals this season and you can quote me on that

3/ Keane is not a player that makes lots of assists for his strike partner.

4/ Keane is better than Voronin and Kuyt

5/ I think we paid over the odds

6/ I think he will be a success

7/ I think he will play best in a 4-4-2 with Torres

8/ I would have preferred Aguero but he would have cost even sillier money and would have to adapt to the prem

9/ Keane ticks all the right boxes as a player

10/ I can always get someone else to tarmac my drive

[Number 9]

I will make my thoughts clearer

1/ Keane is a good player but not my first choice

2/ Keane will not score 20 league goals this season and you can quote me on that

3/ Keane is not a player that makes lots of assists for his strike partner.

4/ Keane is better than Voronin and Kuyt

5/ I think we paid over the odds

6/ I think he will be a success

7/ I think he will play best in a 4-4-2 with Torres

8/ I would have preferred Aguero but he would have cost even sillier money and would have to adapt to the prem

9/ Keane ticks all the right boxes as a player

10/ I can always get someone else to tarmac my drive

Care to explain number 10?
As far as i'm concerned he's a footballer and to associate tarmac and drives is beyond me!
I agree with some of what you have chosen to say..others im not so sure about...maybe im daft eh?
What has tarmac got to do with football or getting other people to do your drive?

[Dundalk]

Well I for one am over the moon that we have signed Keane. You cant have 2 strikers the same and in signing Keane i believe that we have now got a really good partnership up front.

Goals win matches, and with Nando and Robbie up front and with the midfield Rafa has assembled supplying them, then i think this season we are in for a much more attacking side.

I would agree with Saint that Robbie will not get 20 league goals next season but i think he will easily hit double figures and will also have double figures in the assists table. He is a team player who will give his all during every match and you only have to look at his celebrations during Spurs Carling Cup triumph to see how much the game means to him and that money isn't everything.

Welcome to Anfield Robbie and good luck.