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Postby CardinalRed » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:01 pm

Let's not all get hung up about Robbie's age and the fee......... to coin an old phrase the proof of the pudding is surely in the eating? If Robbie contributes nothing then it's a disastrous buy, on the other hand if we win a major trophy in the next couple of years we will all to a man consider it money well spent. It's getting close boys and girls....... Let's get behind 'em!!!


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Postby The Manhattan Project » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:01 pm

I think the age factor is really more to do with re-sale value than how many years we will get out of him


Don't worry about it.


Rafa has a plan for what to do when Keane is approaching the end of his career and we need to sell him for a decent price.












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Postby LegBarnes » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:12 pm

Bad Bob wrote:Well pleased with this signing.  I've rated Keane since the 02 World Cup and I think he'll slot into our attack very, very well. :nod

Agree bob he top player i would say ireland's best ever player.

Watch this space i think robbie will get top prem goal scorer this year with nando highest champ league scorer.

You just see how many more he bangs in when he plays in a top team.
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Postby puroresu » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:18 pm

I think its a bit overpriced but at the same time I think Keane will do very well for us!!!
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Postby LegBarnes » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:38 pm

He's fast , He's red , He talks like father Ted , Robbie Keane , Robbie Keane !  :D
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Postby maguskwt » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:13 pm

Number 9 wrote:
Owzat wrote:
GYBS wrote:the thing about villa is his price - would of cost 30 mil plus for him (and also 28)and when torres and villa play together torres does all the donkey work and doesnt score as much as evident in the euros - now keane can do all the work like kuyt for torres but keane has already proved he can score in the prem . i have always thought villa is a pipe dream and also a luxury we cant afford.

David Villa 03/12/81
Robbie Keane 08/07/80

So Keane is already 28, Villa won't be 27 for a few more months yet. I'm not sure anyone really knows what Villa would have cost, I know given a straight choice I'd go for Villa - probably anything up to £5m more. The problem I can see with Keane over Villa is selling, I doubt we'll get anything like the fee we paid for Keane if we sell a la Bellamy. Villa's tag will hold reasonably for a season or two, especially after the Euros. So in that sense I reckon we've signed a player with a greater rate of depreciation

Well lets think positive instead of negative for once! :D
Perhaps Keane will play out his career at Anfield and we wont have to worry about the selling bit.I really dont see the point tbh.The guy has not even kicked a ball for us yet and you are worrying about what we will get if we sell him...Come on?

Just maybe he will be a major success and will give us 4 years in the number 7 that we will remember long after he's gone!
As for David Villa,its done and dusted now,he is not coming and thats it so theres no point whinging about it any more!

it's weird isn't it... ppl don't see the transfers as they really are... this transfer is not about the future, this transfer is not about stop gaps, cutting costs nor a financial investment... this transfer is about the present... rafa bought keane not to sell back or make a profit later on but to challenge for the title now... it is a gamble, just like torres' transfer but if we are to challenge for the title in the present we need to be having gambles like this...
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Postby LittleHobo » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:30 pm

heres a fact i like though now

we now have 3 potential match winners rather than 2

the figure is rising every year (put babel in there also potentially) thats 4

one more winger would be joyus
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Postby The Manhattan Project » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:32 pm

With Keane, Torres, N'gog (or whatever his name is), and Nemeth, along with Babel and Kuyt, do we really need Voronin?
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Postby Number 9 » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:35 pm

maguskwt wrote:
Number 9 wrote:
Owzat wrote:
GYBS wrote:the thing about villa is his price - would of cost 30 mil plus for him (and also 28)and when torres and villa play together torres does all the donkey work and doesnt score as much as evident in the euros - now keane can do all the work like kuyt for torres but keane has already proved he can score in the prem . i have always thought villa is a pipe dream and also a luxury we cant afford.

David Villa 03/12/81
Robbie Keane 08/07/80

So Keane is already 28, Villa won't be 27 for a few more months yet. I'm not sure anyone really knows what Villa would have cost, I know given a straight choice I'd go for Villa - probably anything up to £5m more. The problem I can see with Keane over Villa is selling, I doubt we'll get anything like the fee we paid for Keane if we sell a la Bellamy. Villa's tag will hold reasonably for a season or two, especially after the Euros. So in that sense I reckon we've signed a player with a greater rate of depreciation

Well lets think positive instead of negative for once! :D
Perhaps Keane will play out his career at Anfield and we wont have to worry about the selling bit.I really dont see the point tbh.The guy has not even kicked a ball for us yet and you are worrying about what we will get if we sell him...Come on?

Just maybe he will be a major success and will give us 4 years in the number 7 that we will remember long after he's gone!
As for David Villa,its done and dusted now,he is not coming and thats it so theres no point whinging about it any more!

it's weird isn't it... ppl don't see the transfers as they really are... this transfer is not about the future, this transfer is not about stop gaps, cutting costs nor a financial investment... this transfer is about the present... rafa bought keane not to sell back or make a profit later on but to challenge for the title now... it is a gamble, just like torres' transfer but if we are to challenge for the title in the present we need to be having gambles like this...

I think its the safest signing Rafa has ever made since he came here!Yes Torres was a gamble as he had only ever played in Spain,we had our doubts but we all know now now they were unnecessary.

There is no doubt in my mind Keane will fit in instantly and be a great player for us.He will be a massive massive addition to our attack.Some complain about his goal tally..only 15 in the League last year,his assists also get a hammering!
Its not just about the two things that are recorded by boring stat people.
Robbie Keane is an EXCELLENT footballer.He can hold the ball up excellently,play a killer pass and is one of the most comfortable strikers I have seen playing close quarter quick passing football in and around the box!He has an amazing footballing brain and will pull defences every shape apart from the shape they want to keep!

Im co'ck a hoop we have him now i really am delighted..totally made up!
Then ya come in from work and find people on here moaning that we might not get much if we sell him..before he has ever stepped on Anfield turf!
WTF is that all about??
He's 28 arguably in his prime,a boyhood LFC fan,all his brothers support and love LFC..he has been offered the best chance any player at his stage in his career could ever want.He will be playing with the best striker in the world in front of the best fans in the world and in the C/L every year.He has proven every year that he can play well in the EPL against any team and be a success!

He has about 4 years left in him...so why would he want to leave?...And why are people even thinking about a sell on fee anyway...I swear,just when ya think there is nothing to complain about some people pull a totally hypothetical nonsense out of their brain and sprawl it across the boards like cowsh'ite on a field....Theres really no need!

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Postby LittleHobo » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:35 pm

heres the fact

rafa rotates

he plays kuyt as right winger

so in his mind he only has 3 forwards

voronin is above nemeth in the pecking order easily

so sadly voronin stays
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Postby Number 9 » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:37 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:With Keane, Torres, N'gog (or whatever his name is), and Nemeth, along with Babel and Kuyt, do we really need Voronin?

Apparently he makes a great cuppa tea!!
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Postby Owzat » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:37 pm

maguskwt wrote:
Number 9 wrote:
Owzat wrote:
GYBS wrote:the thing about villa is his price - would of cost 30 mil plus for him (and also 28)and when torres and villa play together torres does all the donkey work and doesnt score as much as evident in the euros - now keane can do all the work like kuyt for torres but keane has already proved he can score in the prem . i have always thought villa is a pipe dream and also a luxury we cant afford.

David Villa 03/12/81
Robbie Keane 08/07/80

So Keane is already 28, Villa won't be 27 for a few more months yet. I'm not sure anyone really knows what Villa would have cost, I know given a straight choice I'd go for Villa - probably anything up to £5m more. The problem I can see with Keane over Villa is selling, I doubt we'll get anything like the fee we paid for Keane if we sell a la Bellamy. Villa's tag will hold reasonably for a season or two, especially after the Euros. So in that sense I reckon we've signed a player with a greater rate of depreciation

Well lets think positive instead of negative for once! :D
Perhaps Keane will play out his career at Anfield and we wont have to worry about the selling bit.I really dont see the point tbh.The guy has not even kicked a ball for us yet and you are worrying about what we will get if we sell him...Come on?

Just maybe he will be a major success and will give us 4 years in the number 7 that we will remember long after he's gone!
As for David Villa,its done and dusted now,he is not coming and thats it so theres no point whinging about it any more!

it's weird isn't it... ppl don't see the transfers as they really are... this transfer is not about the future, this transfer is not about stop gaps, cutting costs nor a financial investment... this transfer is about the present... rafa bought keane not to sell back or make a profit later on but to challenge for the title now... it is a gamble, just like torres' transfer but if we are to challenge for the title in the present we need to be having gambles like this...

Yeah of course, we've signed Keane so the title is in the bag  :laugh:

To compare it to Torres is laughable, not that much cheaper and quite a bit older. Torres scored quite a few more than Torres despite this supposed advantage of "proven in the Premiership".

And the point about the resale value, it makes the larger fee for a good player less of a gamble as the difference in price would be covered by the depreciation factor. Before we signed Keane you'd have wanted Villa over him every time, now we've signed Keane a number of people are going on like he's the star signing we've always dreamed of.

Don't get me wrong, I like Keane as a player but the fee is a bit steep for his age when a few more million could have landed us a better and younger striker. Jeez, you can't make any slight critical comment these days without the Irish inquisition jumping down your throat. This is supposed to be DISCUSSION, not winkfest 2008
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Postby Owzat » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:39 pm

LittleHobo wrote:heres the fact

rafa rotates

he plays kuyt as right winger

so in his mind he only has 3 forwards

voronin is above nemeth in the pecking order easily

so sadly voronin stays

Here's a real fact, anyone thinking we can afford to go into a season with only three senior strikers is naive. If we sell Voronin and both Keane and Torres get injured then we're screwed
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Postby account deleted by request » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:51 pm

I agree with a lot of what you say about w@nkfest and discussion Owzat, but as for strikers, I would rather go into the season with two quality strikers and having to hope they don't both get injured, rather than 4 cr@ppy strikers like Voronin and Kuyt and hoping they come good.
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Postby destro » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:57 pm

Owzat wrote:
LittleHobo wrote:heres the fact

rafa rotates

he plays kuyt as right winger

so in his mind he only has 3 forwards

voronin is above nemeth in the pecking order easily

so sadly voronin stays

Here's a real fact, anyone thinking we can afford to go into a season with only three senior strikers is naive. If we sell Voronin and both Keane and Torres get injured then we're screwed

If we have to rely on Voronin if Keane and Torres get injured then we are screwed anyway  ???
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