Liverpool FC Forum

[Kharhaz]

Thats as damning an indictment of the manager has you can get. Means the players have no faith in the manager and couldn't care  less if it costs him his job. They know they are safe....... you don't sack 22 players .... you sack the manager.

Is right. Also the players who constantly play alongside the key players know, there is no challenge within the squad to threaten their position.  So no matter how they perform, they will be in the next lineup. Also ive mentioned it before, and many have an idea themself, rafas favourites can do absolutely no wrong, and again their position is safe for that reason.

The team is divided, anyone can see that, and rafa is at fault for that. He has treat the ones he likes with unbelievable faith, and those he is not so keen on with neutral respect, which is why we have lost so many good players (Alonso, Crouch, Keane, to name a few).

The whole thing with the club now is beyond a joke.

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Thats as damning an indictment of the manager has you can get. Means the players have no faith in the manager and couldn't care  less if it costs him his job. They know they are safe....... you don't sack 22 players .... you sack the manager.

But there cheating us Saint mate , If they dont like the manager thers other ways mate of showing you disproval, But dont cheat the fecking fans who travel half way round the country spending there hard earned money to show them some support an then give nothing back, Not on

They did the same thing to Souness and possibly to Houllier. I remember Souness saying that he heard some of his senior pro's laughing in the hotel about how bad they were playing and how it wouldn't be long before Souness went.

I don't know if its anything like as bad as that now, but they certainly seem to lose heart now at the first setback. No heart, no fight, NO HOPE.

[Zidane]

Yeah I think the time has come to move on.  The players are so unbelievably fragile right now.  It's like they go into games thinking alright we'll give it a go then something bad happens and it's like oh well, forget this and just give up.  It's so pathetic out there sometimes, the only thing that lifts them out of that mentality of not caring is some kind of mistake by the other team and it is driving me insane.  I don't think players will stand Rafa long if there isn't success on the end of it, if he had developed some more relationships with the players it would be different.  I don't think the players like the man, they just like what he made them accomplish and at the moment we aren't accomplishing anything so they don't seem to care for him.

Rafa is a very stubborn man and right now when things start to work well with something different he wants to go back to what his first idea was to make us successful.  Saint referred to it earlier, we play well with so and so formation but he reverts to what he believes is best for us yet isn't necessarily giving us the best results.  Anyway I do think the time to move on is coming a lot faster than I had anticipated or hoped for and it is very depressing for me.

[boodiddy1]

go

[shawnk]

Is right. Also the players who constantly play alongside the key players know, there is no challenge within the squad to threaten their position.  So no matter how they perform, they will be in the next lineup. Also ive mentioned it before, and many have an idea themself, rafas favourites can do absolutely no wrong, and again their position is safe for that reason.

The team is divided, anyone can see that, and rafa is at fault for that. He has treat the ones he likes with unbelievable faith, and those he is not so keen on with neutral respect, which is why we have lost so many good players (Alonso, Crouch, Keane, to name a few).

The whole thing with the club now is beyond a joke.

This is a great point. Rafa has shown favoritism towards the likes of Lucas/Kuyt, it's going to be very demotivated to other players that worked hard for the place.

I would be surprised if any players would actually sign for Liverpool come January, not because of Liverpool's form but Rafa's favoritism.

[lakes10]

the pool needs a update, some of the names on the stay list should now be moved to the go list.

[dawson99]

stay list has gotta be getting pretty lonely now

[Sabre]

stay list has gotta be getting pretty lonely now

I don't think that will give any satisfaction to anyone, and if it does, I don't understand it.

At the end, if anything is important is what Anfield says, and at the end, results are a dictator that always get the sack of a manager, sooner or later.

Speaking of Liverpool F.C. it will always be more later than sooner, and mind you, you should be proud of that.

It will be a result at the end what will change the manager, and I don't plan to discuss about it, I'll just focus in anything positive I see in the players until the storm ends, with or without a new manager.

Because with a new manager, and with injuries, we're still in trouble.

[muzza798]

Its now more evident than ever that rafa has not bought a second team. We need an English manager who knows English football like the back of his hand. Rafa hasnt made terrible signings but i think its true that iff we had O'neil for example he'd of signed us some bloody great players for the money Benitez had.

[Festy]

Go

[Effes]

Go please Rafa.

There is the secondary issue about whether Rafa should go or not...........
and that's "Will he walk?"

We cant afford to sack him - we are snookered.

[redbeergoggles]

Still Stay

[Dundalk]

After that performance against Reading does anyone want to change their mind??

[bunglemark2]

No, get rid of him. Go now, you fookin' idiot...

[Dundalk]

Me or Rafa........