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Postby Owzat » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:51 am

red187 wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7820798.stm

Still haven't gotten the hang of posting links

Other forum I go on recognises urls and turns them into links automatically
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Postby Ciggy » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:58 am

red187 wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7820798.stm

Still haven't gotten the hang of posting links but this is the link to the full transcript from the BBC website, what does worry me is the very last paragraph, now I don't know if this was an answer to a question that was posed to Rafa after his rant.

"There is still no news about my contract, my agent has not received any documents so he is a little bit disappointed. But we will see.

"I would rather not talk too much about this, though, when we have an important game ahead."

The fact that his contract is still up in the air could be adding to his growing sense of discontent, maybe the rant about Red Nose was a form of release but not the real reason he is upset

Well the yanks have extended the loan so whats the hold up?
Rafa getting most fans on his side again like last time, letting us know twit & tw@t havent pulled their fingers out offering Rafa & Agger a new contract.

God I hate them :censored:.
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Postby lakes10 » Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:40 pm

Ciggy wrote:
red187 wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7820798.stm

Still haven't gotten the hang of posting links but this is the link to the full transcript from the BBC website, what does worry me is the very last paragraph, now I don't know if this was an answer to a question that was posed to Rafa after his rant.

"There is still no news about my contract, my agent has not received any documents so he is a little bit disappointed. But we will see.

"I would rather not talk too much about this, though, when we have an important game ahead."

The fact that his contract is still up in the air could be adding to his growing sense of discontent, maybe the rant about Red Nose was a form of release but not the real reason he is upset

Well the yanks have extended the loan so whats the hold up?
Rafa getting most fans on his side again like last time, letting us know twit & tw@t havent pulled their fingers out offering Rafa & Agger a new contract.

God I hate them :censored:.

the thing is if they give a new contract that often means more money, as I undestand right now they not even have a pot to :censored: in.

Hicks needs to sell some stock to pay some of his bill overseas.

going by CCN 2 nights ago George Gillett Jr has spent 60mil on NASCAR contracts.

he is looking to spend over 100mil in that sport in one year.

here is a link with a bit more info on it but they dont talk about the money.

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Postby tubby » Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:14 pm

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Postby tubby » Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:16 pm

Ciggy wrote:
red187 wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7820798.stm

Still haven't gotten the hang of posting links but this is the link to the full transcript from the BBC website, what does worry me is the very last paragraph, now I don't know if this was an answer to a question that was posed to Rafa after his rant.

"There is still no news about my contract, my agent has not received any documents so he is a little bit disappointed. But we will see.

"I would rather not talk too much about this, though, when we have an important game ahead."

The fact that his contract is still up in the air could be adding to his growing sense of discontent, maybe the rant about Red Nose was a form of release but not the real reason he is upset

Well the yanks have extended the loan so whats the hold up?
Rafa getting most fans on his side again like last time, letting us know twit & tw@t havent pulled their fingers out offering Rafa & Agger a new contract.

God I hate them :censored:.

I dont understand what the delay is. A few weeks ago they were in discussions.
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Postby tonyeh » Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:54 pm

BBC News 24 have just reported that the FA will look into Benitez's comments "in full context" next week.
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Postby heimdall » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:00 pm

Number 9 wrote:
Raffmaker wrote:I saw the whole thing on Sky SPorts news and I was horrified!

why rise to the bait? We are top but a long way to go still!

Fergie, big game time with chelsea and he is nervous!

Despite all of Rafas's pojnts being true, why show it?? IT just just shows we LFC are really bothered BY IT !!

seeing Rafa come out with facts that rafa has rehearsed on his sheet, was little embarrassing and just plays into the hands of the scum.

We are top now, can we stay there! ??




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Bloody hell what is your obsession about me, that's the second time you've mentioned me in this thread, I'm getting a bit concerned.

For the record I thought it was both good and bad but mostly good as it will put a hell of a lot of pressure on old Whiskey Nose. The bad is that it looked a tiny bit desperate and rant'ish, especially if we don't beat Stoke and Manure beat the Chavs.

BUT if we win and the chavs win then it will be absolutely fecking brilliant   :buttrock  :buttrock  :bowdown  :D
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Postby aCe' » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:35 pm

not very excited about the whole thing as most as really...

theyv been getting away with wrong calls and everyone knows it, but that was besides the point.. it was basically just Rafa coming out and telling Ferguson that he can take him on in his own game... dont think it was the smartest move ever... might stir up the fans a little and get a reaction from ferguson ultimately but it was really uncalled for imo..

we'r top of the table... presure isnt on us, its on manutd...everyne knows that and so does ferguson..thats the only reason he came up with his initial remarks in the first place...rafa should have responded in a different way imo... we'v seen many getting sucked into this whole ferguson mind games bs over the year.. great managers too... im pretty sure most of the players wont be liking it because quite honestly the whole interview just sounded like a big moan about moaning.. i say just get on with business.. its still too early for this... we arent even playing them yet and with Rafas experience i thought he'd know better..

hope im proven wrong and we end up going on a brilliant run and the mancs end up dropping points left,right, and center, but i just cant see it happening.. history tells us otherwise..

anyways... whole thing isnt a big deal imo and im pretty sure both camps will be firmly focused on their own campaigns and struggles and try to do most of their talking on the pitch... funny how Chelsea are slowly falling off the map of late.. a win against the mancs will put them right back in it imo... a draw is what we should be hoping for...
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Postby Emerald Red » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:42 pm

What can you say. The legend that is Rafa Benitez grows stronger. For anyone thinking this was a mistake on his behalf - BOLLOX! If anything it's a masterstroke by the man. He had all the facts and he read them out calmly, while injecting a bit of his own unique savvy and humor into the whole statement, as well as a sprinkle of sarcasm dished out at the press. This was NOT Kevin Keegan blowing a fuse style regardless of what the thick Mancs think. It's very clever of Rafa to do this ahead of a massive game between the two closest challengers. If Fergie and his staff go mental at officials during, or after the game, it will only make Rafa look like an absolute genius and put to shame the so called master of mind games himself. In fact, this will stand for the rest of the season. It's something that should have been said years ago, but no body had the stones to do. For me, this is easily up there as a milestone event compared to any there has been in the Premiership. It shows that the man is not intimidated by United or their deified manager. Rafa, you're a f*ckin legend!
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Postby lakes10 » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:47 pm

Emerald Red wrote:What can you say. The legend that is Rafa Benitez grows stronger. For anyone thinking this was a mistake on his behalf - BOLLOX! If anything it's a masterstroke by the man. He had all the facts and he read them out calmly, while injecting a bit of his own unique savvy and humor into the whole statement, as well as a sprinkle of sarcasm dished out at the press. This was NOT Kevin Keegan blowing a fuse style regardless of what the thick Mancs think. It's very clever of Rafa to do this ahead of a massive game between the two closest challengers. If Fergie and his staff go mental at officials during, or after the game, it will only make Rafa look like an absolute genius and put to shame the so called master of mind games himself. In fact, this will stand for the rest of the season. It's something that should have been said years ago, but no body had the stones to do. For me, this is easily up there as a milestone event compared to any there has been in the Premiership. It shows that the man is not intimidated by United or their deified manager. Rafa, you're a f*ckin legend!

Hold on.

lets get on thing right here.

Rafa is not a legend.
if he wins the Premier League 2 or 3 times then he can be called a legend.

The word is used too much.
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Postby Emerald Red » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:49 pm

lakes10 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:What can you say. The legend that is Rafa Benitez grows stronger. For anyone thinking this was a mistake on his behalf - BOLLOX! If anything it's a masterstroke by the man. He had all the facts and he read them out calmly, while injecting a bit of his own unique savvy and humor into the whole statement, as well as a sprinkle of sarcasm dished out at the press. This was NOT Kevin Keegan blowing a fuse style regardless of what the thick Mancs think. It's very clever of Rafa to do this ahead of a massive game between the two closest challengers. If Fergie and his staff go mental at officials during, or after the game, it will only make Rafa look like an absolute genius and put to shame the so called master of mind games himself. In fact, this will stand for the rest of the season. It's something that should have been said years ago, but no body had the stones to do. For me, this is easily up there as a milestone event compared to any there has been in the Premiership. It shows that the man is not intimidated by United or their deified manager. Rafa, you're a f*ckin legend!

Hold on.

lets get on thing right here.

Rafa is not a legend.
if he wins the Premier League 2 or 3 times then he can be called a legend.

The word is used too much.

Hold on - he won us number 5.

That's legend material in it's own right.
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Postby Effes » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:54 pm

This incident confirmed what I always believed: We believe what we want to believe.

All the Mancs think Rafa's lost it; Liverpool fans reckon it's a "masterstroke".

I think it's neither - he could have played it better IMHO.
I think it would have been better to just talk about referees at Old Trafford, and talk
about the referee's performance on Sunday, hoping he wont be intimidated.

If we win today and Man U dont win Sunday, Rafa will have got away with it.

But if we dont win, it wont look so good.

Pressure on the lad today.
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Postby Sabre » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:57 pm

Keegan's rant

Manchester fans can say whatever they want, they're fans.

But journalists that make comparisons of Rafa's reaction to Keegan's reactions are not quite being objective.

Not exactly the same thing to point with the finger, and Rafa's sentence "He was not thinking about that" while twisting the hand ( :D )

Not exactly the same thing to say your anger finishing with those love it, full of well understandable hate, and Rafa's facts.
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Postby murphy0151 » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:10 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:What can you say. The legend that is Rafa Benitez grows stronger. For anyone thinking this was a mistake on his behalf - BOLLOX! If anything it's a masterstroke by the man. He had all the facts and he read them out calmly, while injecting a bit of his own unique savvy and humor into the whole statement, as well as a sprinkle of sarcasm dished out at the press. This was NOT Kevin Keegan blowing a fuse style regardless of what the thick Mancs think. It's very clever of Rafa to do this ahead of a massive game between the two closest challengers. If Fergie and his staff go mental at officials during, or after the game, it will only make Rafa look like an absolute genius and put to shame the so called master of mind games himself. In fact, this will stand for the rest of the season. It's something that should have been said years ago, but no body had the stones to do. For me, this is easily up there as a milestone event compared to any there has been in the Premiership. It shows that the man is not intimidated by United or their deified manager. Rafa, you're a f*ckin legend!

Hold on.

lets get on thing right here.

Rafa is not a legend.
if he wins the Premier League 2 or 3 times then he can be called a legend.

The word is used too much.

Hold on - he won us number 5.

That's legend material in it's own right.

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Postby lakes10 » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:28 pm

murphy0151 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:What can you say. The legend that is Rafa Benitez grows stronger. For anyone thinking this was a mistake on his behalf - BOLLOX! If anything it's a masterstroke by the man. He had all the facts and he read them out calmly, while injecting a bit of his own unique savvy and humor into the whole statement, as well as a sprinkle of sarcasm dished out at the press. This was NOT Kevin Keegan blowing a fuse style regardless of what the thick Mancs think. It's very clever of Rafa to do this ahead of a massive game between the two closest challengers. If Fergie and his staff go mental at officials during, or after the game, it will only make Rafa look like an absolute genius and put to shame the so called master of mind games himself. In fact, this will stand for the rest of the season. It's something that should have been said years ago, but no body had the stones to do. For me, this is easily up there as a milestone event compared to any there has been in the Premiership. It shows that the man is not intimidated by United or their deified manager. Rafa, you're a f*ckin legend!

Hold on.

lets get on thing right here.

Rafa is not a legend.
if he wins the Premier League 2 or 3 times then he can be called a legend.

The word is used too much.

Hold on - he won us number 5.

That's legend material in it's own right.

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no way, sorry

so you would put his name in this list already

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