Liverpool FC Forum

[tubby]

And thats the end of the Tevez to Liverpool story. lol  I guess his wage demands were too exorbarant. If Utd couldn't afford them then what chance do we have. MAn City are going to be buying every decent player left right and centre. Rafa needs to be able to buy proven quality players this summer, no 2nd rate maybe players.
I think we should get 7Mil for Babel, around 5Mil for Dossena and maybe 7mil for Agger but id prefer if Agger doesn't leave as we would not be able to bring in anyone the same quality without spending a lot more.

I have a feeling that Rafa  might attack Spanish clubs, in search of a quality center back. Albiol anyone?

Yeah good reputation but he would cost a lot more than what we would get for Agger. And Rafa still has to think about a RB, winger and striker.

[Festy]

I'm almost covinced that Agger and Babel will leave. How much we'll get for them is anyone's guess though.

I'd be very concerned if we lost/sold Agger without an "as good as" replacement.

While many our rightly talking about signing another striker, we need to keep an eye on our centre back positions. Agger goes and we are left primarily with Carra ,Skrtle and an aging Hyppia.

Surely Rafa wouldn't willingly leave us with just those three to cover the CB positions ?.

Rafa is a sort of manager, who if given a choice would always prefer a solid center back over a stiker or a well covered defense over well covered attack.

[tonyeh]

I hope to fuck Agger doesn't leave. That'll really bugger our defence for next year.

We really do need another striker though, all it takes is for blondy's hammy to go again and then were fucked. But who's going to want to come here and play second fiddle to him? That's the bigger issue and after the Keane debacle, I'd say there would be more than a few strikers stearing clear of us.

Babel will go in the Summer, I think that's definite. Itandje too  and Voronin looks far happier playing in Germany. No loss IMO.

...and I hope we drop kick Lucas out on the first day of the transfer market.

[tubby]

I'm almost covinced that Agger and Babel will leave. How much we'll get for them is anyone's guess though.

I'd be very concerned if we lost/sold Agger without an "as good as" replacement.

While many our rightly talking about signing another striker, we need to keep an eye on our centre back positions. Agger goes and we are left primarily with Carra ,Skrtle and an aging Hyppia.

Surely Rafa wouldn't willingly leave us with just those three to cover the CB positions ?.

Rafa is a sort of manager, who if given a choice would always prefer a solid center back over a stiker or a well covered defense over well covered attack.

True but he only has to look back at this season at those draws and games Torres was out for. Had we had another established striker we could have turned a few of those to wins.  Otherwise we will always end up falling short. We cannot keep relying on only Torres and Gerrard for goals. Yes others are stepping up too but another striker is essential.

[Festy]

A proven right back is needed as well in case Arbeloa is injured. Not sure how good is Stephen Darby yet.

'in case' ?
I'd say Arbeloa should only be a first choice if we don't find a quality right back.

[tubby]

I hope to fuck Agger doesn't leave. That'll really bugger our defence for next year.

We really do need another striker though, all it takes is for blondy's hammy to go again and then were fucked. But who's going to want to come here and play second fiddle to him? That's the bigger issue and after the Keane debacle, I'd say there would be more than a few strikers stearing clear of us.

Babel will go in the Summer, I think that's definite. Itandje too  and Voronin looks far happier playing in Germany. No loss IMO.

...and I hope we drop kick Lucas out on the first day of the transfer market.

Yeah id sell Lucas too and bring in Spearing to the 1st team.

We will probably end up buying Barry, Johnson and some unknown or 2nd rate striker from la liga or even segunda.

[GYBS]

i cant see lucas going anywhere - rafa rates him and plays him and dont think that will change - lucas has improved this year and with more playing experience and learning from the likes of xabi gerrard and masher can only get better and save us spending 10 mil on a back up cm like barry . dossena may stay as well to provide cover for the whole of the left hand side . babel i can see going as he just hasnt kicked on at all - plus voronin but dont think should sell anyone else . babels spot beiing filled by silva and voronin slot filled by a rb .

[Bretc]

A proven right back is needed as well in case Arbeloa is injured. Not sure how good is Stephen Darby yet.

'in case' ?
I'd say Arbeloa should only be a first choice if we don't find a quality right back.

Yup agreed but I can't think of a quality right back that is within a realistic budget.

[only me]

Must sell :Lucas ,Babel ,Dossena
Should sell :Aurellio ,Arbeloa

And if we really need the money release Mash - at the risk of being ripped to pieces, over rated in my opinion - from an Argentinian i don't need passion and heart i need quality with the ball.

[tubby]

Glen Johnson for 10mil should be one of Rafas primary targets. You dont need to spend 25m on a full back, just enough for them to get the job done. He can come forward, is quick and atheltic. But he is more aggressive than Arebeloa which i like. Arbeloa is sometimes too slack and careless. EVen is body language sometimes is so uninterested.

[tubby]

And if we really need the money release Mash - at the risk of being ripped to pieces, over rated in my opinion - from an Argentinian i don't need passion and heart i need quality with the ball.

[tonyeh]

If buying Barry means 20 mil and another Summer of bullshit, then no way.

As for letting Mascherano go, I agree, he's very over rated, but he does contribute even if he is a one trick pony. I'd be reluctant to see him gone at the mo.

I don't think midfield is our immediate problem. Attack and defence need to be strengthened.

[Owzat]

A proven right back is needed as well in case Arbeloa is injured. Not sure how good is Stephen Darby yet.

'in case' ?
I'd say Arbeloa should only be a first choice if we don't find a quality right back.

Arbeloa is an unconvincing RB, good on his day but far too suspect in the air and not exactly a great attacking RB. I think Johnson would be a decent purchase, but I suspect 'arry will be after him and a few other pompey players in the summer so the price may be pushed up - especially if Citeh decide to go for him which I reckon is very possible.

Darby is ok as a squad player, I wouldn't be wanting him starting too many games just yet. We'll probably end up selling him for a fee of maybe £500k-£1m in the next season or two, like most of the kids that come up.

I'd still seriously consider any offers for Mascherano, we could get a lot for him from a serie A side and he's maybe not as pivotal to our set-up as many on here think and will automatically dismiss any such suggestion. If it meant getting Tevez then I'd be happy to let Mascherano go, I'm sure we can find an adequate replacement for a lot less than we'd get for him, or make do without. Maybe if we'd got Tevez instead of Mascherano we'd be in front in this title race. Spending £18.6m on a DM when our problem is games where we don't score more than one goal is lavish to say the least. If we could get Barry for £6m-£8m and get £15m-£20m for Mascherano then I reckon that would be a good move. Barry has more about him than Mascherano and it would make a decent profit, might even add a few more goals to the midfield

[GYBS]

masher overrated ? he has shown during the last couple of months exactly how big a cog he is in our team and as for selling him ? are people really serious ?

[stmichael]

And if we really need the money release Mash - at the risk of being ripped to pieces, over rated in my opinion - from an Argentinian i don't need passion and heart i need quality with the ball.

Great. I'll pass that onto Rafa next time I see him. I'm sure he'll call you and you can discuss the issue one to one.