Liverpool FC Forum

[JBG]

I'm not that worried for the long term. The fact is that Liverpool FC is such a strong brand name and has such awesome potential that no matter how much Hicks and Gillette might f.uck things up, someone else will always be willing to take the club off their hands.

There is no comparison with say, Leeds, who are a far smaller club.

I'd be more worried about the short or middle term, such as Hicks and Gillette imposing a transfer embargo or fire sale of assets.

[NANNY RED]

exactly.

joke:

a white swan walks into a pub and sits at the bar.

A man walks up to the WHite Swan and says. "hey, i was in a pub named after you the other day!! "

The swan replies..."what called ALAN! "

hee hee.

Listen lad im in no mood for a wind up

Ive got a sore knee i cant have a bevy its freezin and your sprouting about souces do me a favour will yeh dont give me more of a cob on than ive already got . Leon posted facts get over it

[Bammo]

someone said the other day, Michael Owens "get out clause" has expired recently.

made me chuckle that one

It was me who said it:

Not sure the original source but it's on loads of sites including:

Telegraph

[account deleted by request]

I'm not that worried for the long term. The fact is that Liverpool FC is such a strong brand name and has such awesome potential that no matter how much Hicks and Gillette might f.uck things up, someone else will always be willing to take the club off their hands.

There is no comparison with say, Leeds, who are a far smaller club.

I'd be more worried about the short or middle term, such as Hicks and Gillette imposing a transfer embargo or fire sale of assets.

I'm not so sure mate, how long did it take us to get Hicks and Gillett when we had a debt of circa £40million? If they put the club in huge debt (circa £300/700million)who's going to jump in and take that onboard?

Everyone saw what happened at Leeds, the players couldn't get away fast enough. How long do you think our top players would hang around if it looked like we were going under?

I am not saying that its likely to happen, but don't dismiss it as being impossible.

[Bammo]

I'm not that worried for the long term. The fact is that Liverpool FC is such a strong brand name and has such awesome potential that no matter how much Hicks and Gillette might f.uck things up, someone else will always be willing to take the club off their hands.

There is no comparison with say, Leeds, who are a far smaller club.

I'd be more worried about the short or middle term, such as Hicks and Gillette imposing a transfer embargo or fire sale of assets.

I'm not so sure mate, how long did it take us to get Hicks and Gillett when we had a debt of circa £40million? If they put the club in huge debt (circa £300/700million)who's going to jump in and take that onboard?

Everyone saw what happened at Leeds, the players couldn't get away fast enough. How long do you think our top players would hang around if it looked like we were going under?

I am not saying that its likely to happen, but don't dismiss it as being impossible.

If the club were in massive debt (£300m+) wouldn't the value of the club then be negligible? I know other clubs have been sold for £1 +debts so would that apply?

If it were that cheap then investors may still be interested because the overall cost to them would be the same.

Genuine questions because I'm not an expert on football club purchase practices!

[account deleted by request]

I'm not that worried for the long term. The fact is that Liverpool FC is such a strong brand name and has such awesome potential that no matter how much Hicks and Gillette might f.uck things up, someone else will always be willing to take the club off their hands.

There is no comparison with say, Leeds, who are a far smaller club.

I'd be more worried about the short or middle term, such as Hicks and Gillette imposing a transfer embargo or fire sale of assets.

I'm not so sure mate, how long did it take us to get Hicks and Gillett when we had a debt of circa £40million? If they put the club in huge debt (circa £300/700million)who's going to jump in and take that onboard?

Everyone saw what happened at Leeds, the players couldn't get away fast enough. How long do you think our top players would hang around if it looked like we were going under?

I am not saying that its likely to happen, but don't dismiss it as being impossible.

If the club were in massive debt (£300m+) wouldn't the value of the club then be negligible? I know other clubs have been sold for £1 +debts so would that apply?

If it were that cheap then investors may still be interested because the overall cost to them would be the same.

Genuine questions because I'm not an expert on football club purchase practices!

The difference would be that the profits of the club would be eaten up in interest payments servicing the debt rather than in investment in assets (players). This would deter any but the most determined buyer ,and there arn't many of those about.

Worse still if the new stadium was held up part way through due to lack of finance,i.e. after the 18 months, by the time building recommenced with new owners the costs would be astronomical.

Plus our present owners would be unlikely to happily walk away with nothing and would no doubt try to sell players to recover some of their costs.

All this is very unlikely as I said, but not impossible.

[NANNY RED]

Makes you wonder though Saint if this wasnt there plan i know it might sound far fetched in the football sense but it happens everyday ive done it meself buy a buissness and sell for a profit 12 months later

Maybe im just on one here

[Torres 2007]

exactly.

joke:

a white swan walks into a pub and sits at the bar.

A man walks up to the WHite Swan and says. "hey, i was in a pub named after you the other day!! "

The swan replies..."what called ALAN! "

hee hee.

Listen lad im in no mood for a wind up

Ive got a sore knee i cant have a bevy its freezin and your sprouting about souces do me a favour will yeh dont give me more of a cob on than ive already got . Leon posted facts get over it

u Saddo.

Santa won't be bringing you anything. you have been a naughty boy in this forum.

[metalhead]

WRONG TOPIC

[account deleted by request]

Makes you wonder though Saint if this wasnt there plan i know it might sound far fetched in the football sense but it happens everyday ive done it meself buy a buissness and sell for a profit 12 months later

Maybe im just on one here

I just hope we are both on one. I wouldn't put anything as past them now. I think they saw an opportunity to make a great investment and jumped in with both feet, but now I think they are just going to delay, delay, delay in the hope that the financial problems will ease, if not they will try to sell at a huge profit.

[Torres 2007]

Mascherano is a quality player ,one of the best holding midfielders I have seen.

"The Chief"

It will be a huge blow if we don't buy him.

wrong topic that innit?

you have had too many sherrys 2night. stick to shandy

[NANNY RED]

exactly.

joke:

a white swan walks into a pub and sits at the bar.

A man walks up to the WHite Swan and says. "hey, i was in a pub named after you the other day!! "

The swan replies..."what called ALAN! "

hee hee.

Listen lad im in no mood for a wind up

Ive got a sore knee i cant have a bevy its freezin and your sprouting about souces do me a favour will yeh dont give me more of a cob on than ive already got . Leon posted facts get over it

u Saddo.

Santa won't be bringing you anything. you have been a naughty boy in this forum.

Im in bulk here

Saddo and im a naughty boy

[yckatbjywtbiastkamb]

i dont know what to believe half the time, there`s that much rumour and counter rumour going on at anfield these days.
but something is definately not right.
when the new owners breezed into town and ripped up the original plans for the new stanley park stadium and then spent 1m designing a new one, only to now invest in some sticky tape and someone who is good at jigsaw puzzles to put the original plans back together then the alarm bells start ringing.
say what you want about bascombe but over the years working for the echo he must have become pally with insiders at the club.
this is potentially a disasterous situation.
i dont know if the klinsman rumours are true but they`ve got to be joking.

[Scottbot]

As for the financial side, I think Gillett and Hicks need to get their backsides over here, get in the press room and stay seated until they've answered every question that every journalist has to ask. All of this talk is pulling us to bits, and one way or another it needs nipping in the bud. If there are problems, be honest and get them out in the open. If there aren't, get in front of the cameras and refute these allegations.

Bang on, i'm not one to bite too hard on the sensation from the press (even if it does come from Bascombe) but if G & H DON'T come out and refute this stuff quick smart then I'd bet there is some TRUTH in it 

[Kharhaz]

As for the financial side, I think Gillett and Hicks need to get their backsides over here, get in the press room and stay seated until they've answered every question that every journalist has to ask. All of this talk is pulling us to bits, and one way or another it needs nipping in the bud. If there are problems, be honest and get them out in the open. If there aren't, get in front of the cameras and refute these allegations.

Bang on, i'm not one to bite too hard on the sensation from the press (even if it does come from Bascombe) but if G & H DON'T come out and refute this stuff quick smart then I'd bet there is some TRUTH in it 

And then what? wait for the next negative press release when they have to come out again and refute that. Then the one after that, and the one after that? No its just easier to ignore what is written. Bascombe works for the News of the World. The sister paper of the rag. Work it out for yourselves.