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[Emerald Red]

Broadly speaking, we can no longer control a game.

Hardly surprising when more than half of your first choice 11 are all injured and you've to make do with bargain bucket squad fillers to take up the mantal. Lucas and Spearing for central pair anyone? Na, didn't think so either. At the minute, injuries and some bad luck have turned our season upside down.

[agoodmentality]

I've supported Rafa to the hilt,,,but I haven't felt this bad since Wigan away last season,,:angry:

He's got to go,,,,I hate saying it, but he has,,   Does anybody know how much his contract is worth??

Whoever said our squad was as good as the mancs,, your talking pish,,,,
Take out the 2 Best players out of every PL squad and put them up man for man against us,, think about it,
IMHO I'd take chelski's squad, man u, arsenal, man city, aston villa, spurs, bloody hell everton and sunderlands squads even start to look ok.

[Dazzer]

Broadly speaking, we can no longer control a game.

Hardly surprising when more than half of your first choice 11 are all injured and you've to make do with bargain bucket squad fillers to take up the mantal. Lucas and Spearing for central pair anyone? Na, didn't think so either. At the minute, injuries and some bad luck have turned our season upside down.

Thats the point tho isn't it 2-3 players out and we can't control a game even at home in CL total sh.it 5 years now and we still are a 2 man team.

[Emerald Red]

I've supported Rafa to the hilt,,,but I haven't felt this bad since Wigan away last season,,:angry:

He's got to go,,,,I hate saying it, but he has,,   Does anybody know how much his contract is worth??

Whoever said our squad was as good as the mancs,, your talking pish,,,,
Take out the 2 Best players out of every PL squad and put them up man for man against us,, think about it,
IMHO I'd take chelski's squad, man u, arsenal, man city, aston villa, spurs, bloody hell everton and sunderlands squads even start to look ok.

Are you an automated robot? Didn't you just post this in the match thread?

[Not Too Xabi]

Broadly speaking, we can no longer control a game.

Hardly surprising when more than half of your first choice 11 are all injured and you've to make do with bargain bucket squad fillers to take up the mantal. Lucas and Spearing for central pair anyone? Na, didn't think so either. At the minute, injuries and some bad luck have turned our season upside down.

I'd agree, but injuries and bad luck play a part in every season.

This season is a bit different. Our overall form has been chronically poor. We haven't enough quality to buffer us through the storm - midfield quality especially. After 5 years perhaps we should have? Certainly if we are to challenge for top honours.

[Emerald Red]

Broadly speaking, we can no longer control a game.

Hardly surprising when more than half of your first choice 11 are all injured and you've to make do with bargain bucket squad fillers to take up the mantal. Lucas and Spearing for central pair anyone? Na, didn't think so either. At the minute, injuries and some bad luck have turned our season upside down.

Thats the point tho isn't it 2-3 players out and we can't control a game even at home in CL total sh.it 5 years now and we still are a 2 man team.

Hardly. You take 5 or 6 of your best players out of ANY team in the country, and suddenly you'll look a little ragged. Were we playing a Coca-Cola Championship side tonight? No. We were playing a well organised Lyon outfit in the top tier in Europe, and let's be honest, Gerrard and Torres have hardly been on top form this season either, even if Torres has scored a fair amount in the league, he's still been below his best.

Like I've said in the past few days, we have a excellent first 11, but the difference between us and the rest is that Chelsea, United and even City can afford to spend 20 million plus on their fringe players. We can't.

[bunglemark2]

"Again, I will say we had chances and everything could have been different."
A quote from our managerial maestro after the game.....
Gimme a break you muppet.

[lakes10]

well all the press rooms are full of reports of what the fans are saying on the forums and on phone ins, a big point they are looking to report is the booing when the last sub was made and what a few fans said to Rafa at the end of the game, if there is anyone that was near Rafa at tonights game can you tell us what was said to Rafa by the fans at the end of the game.

[bunglemark2]

Broadly speaking, we can no longer control a game.

Hardly surprising when more than half of your first choice 11 are all injured and you've to make do with bargain bucket squad fillers to take up the mantal. Lucas and Spearing for central pair anyone? Na, didn't think so either. At the minute, injuries and some bad luck have turned our season upside down.

Thats the point tho isn't it 2-3 players out and we can't control a game even at home in CL total sh.it 5 years now and we still are a 2 man team.

Hardly. You take 5 or 6 of your best players out of ANY team in the country, and suddenly you'll look a little ragged. Were we playing a Coca-Cola Championship side tonight? No. We were playing a well organised Lyon outfit in the top tier in Europe, and let's be honest, Gerrard and Torres have hardly been on top form this season either, even if Torres has scored a fair amount in the league, he's still been below his best.

Emerald, your optimism is truly astonishing. But for the life of me, I can't see a single ray of hope at the moment.
We are cack at the back, lifeless and have no inspiration in midfield, and toothless in front of goal except when we play a no-hope team.....
We have a pathetic bench to choose from, players that nobody else wants to sign, and a manager who talks utter tripe like there's no tomorrow....
I am a fan of this club for as long as I can remember but this is just a shade too far. It's embarrassing.

[big al]

big mick Jamie is were exactly were he was last season, the difference is that he had arbeloa with him covering up his lack of pace.  Jamie is a postional player and has always relied on using his head and cutting off the danger. This year hes been caught on too many occasions because he's had to commit to trying to use pace.  The kid Hynes at West ham highlighted this clearest of all.  My thinking is that Johnston can't play with Carra. Johnston can play for England because Rio and Terry have pace.  Really Rafa should have seen this.  Jamie did'nt play bad tonight along with young Kelly. The trouble tonight came from Insua even the fist goal came out of a corner that Xavier had to give away because Insua was out of position.  He was poor on their 2nd goal also.

[Dazzer]

Broadly speaking, we can no longer control a game.

Hardly surprising when more than half of your first choice 11 are all injured and you've to make do with bargain bucket squad fillers to take up the mantal. Lucas and Spearing for central pair anyone? Na, didn't think so either. At the minute, injuries and some bad luck have turned our season upside down.

Thats the point tho isn't it 2-3 players out and we can't control a game even at home in CL total sh.it 5 years now and we still are a 2 man team.

Hardly. You take 5 or 6 of your best players out of ANY team in the country, and suddenly you'll look a little ragged. Were we playing a Coca-Cola Championship side tonight? No. We were playing a well organised Lyon outfit in the top tier in Europe, and let's be honest, Gerrard and Torres have hardly been on top form this season either, even if Torres has scored a fair amount in the league, he's still been below his best.

Like I've said in the past few days, we have a excellent first 11, but the difference between us and the rest is that Chelsea, United and even City can afford to spend 20 million plus on their fringe players. We can't.

how much are you getting paid to chat this bollox ?


Like I've said in the past few days, we have a excellent first 11, but the difference between us and the rest is that Chelsea, United and even City can afford to spend 20 million plus on their fringe players. We can't.



I think you find we had enough over the last 5 years to build a team but Rafa fu.cked it up so no you are wrong.

Plus I doubt every fringe player at chelsea and man U don't cost 20 mil those are numbers you just made up in your mind to support you dumbfounded claim.

[bunglemark2]

big mick Jamie is were exactly were he was last season, the difference is that he had arbeloa with him covering up his lack of pace.  Jamie is a postional player and has always relied on using his head and cutting off the danger. This year hes been caught on too many occasions because he's had to commit to trying to use pace.  The kid Hynes at West ham highlighted this clearest of all.  My thinking is that Johnston can't play with Carra. Johnston can play for England because Rio and Terry have pace.  Really Rafa should have seen this.  Jamie did'nt play bad tonight along with young Kelly. The trouble tonight came from Insua even the fist goal came out of a corner that Xavier had to give away because Insua was out of position.  He was poor on their 2nd goal also.

I'll give you that. Insua had a mare. No pace whatsoever. Surely even the most blinkered manager or his trusty assistants can see that !! I don;t believe for one minute that Rafa should be alone in taking the flak for this...

[agoodmentality]

I've supported Rafa to the hilt,,,but I haven't felt this bad since Wigan away last season,,:angry:

He's got to go,,,,I hate saying it, but he has,,   Does anybody know how much his contract is worth??

Whoever said our squad was as good as the mancs,, your talking pish,,,,
Take out the 2 Best players out of every PL squad and put them up man for man against us,, think about it,
IMHO I'd take chelski's squad, man u, arsenal, man city, aston villa, spurs, bloody hell everton and sunderlands squads even start to look ok.

Are you an automated robot? Didn't you just post this in the match thread?

I feel like a robot,, I can't help posting it,,,

the realisation that we are 5H1T

has knocked me for 6

[Emerald Red]

Broadly speaking, we can no longer control a game.

Hardly surprising when more than half of your first choice 11 are all injured and you've to make do with bargain bucket squad fillers to take up the mantal. Lucas and Spearing for central pair anyone? Na, didn't think so either. At the minute, injuries and some bad luck have turned our season upside down.

Thats the point tho isn't it 2-3 players out and we can't control a game even at home in CL total sh.it 5 years now and we still are a 2 man team.

Hardly. You take 5 or 6 of your best players out of ANY team in the country, and suddenly you'll look a little ragged. Were we playing a Coca-Cola Championship side tonight? No. We were playing a well organised Lyon outfit in the top tier in Europe, and let's be honest, Gerrard and Torres have hardly been on top form this season either, even if Torres has scored a fair amount in the league, he's still been below his best.

Emerald, your optimism is truly astonishing. But for the life of me, I can't see a single ray of hope at the moment.
We are cack at the back, lifeless and have no inspiration in midfield, and toothless in front of goal except when we play a no-hope team.....
We have a pathetic bench to choose from, players that nobody else wants to sign, and a manager who talks utter tripe like there's no tomorrow....
I am a fan of this club for as long as I can remember but this is just a shade too far. It's embarrassing.

I'm not denying it. We're atrocious all over the pitch. We can't seem to get anything cohesive going at all. But I refuse to believe that whenever our first choice is available and confidence is good, that we are anything other than a very, very good side capable of competing for anything. We all knew our squad was thin last year. We all knew where and what needed to be done in the transfer market in the summer. Did Rafa f*ck it up in the Summer, or was he hindered by lack of funds in order to fill the positions we needed. From what I've read, he wanted Villa and certainly went for Silva. The funds just weren't there. Now either Rafa was lying or the Yanks lied to him. I recall a statement made by Rafa in the press that he could afford at least another big money signing to come after he signed Johnson for 18 million. Where was it?

Thing is, I'm optimistic because things can seriously only get better rather than worse. They have to. It's the only way this football club can survive. Those that boo'd inside Anfield tonight over a sub should all f*cking hang their heads in shame.

[big al]

Emerald red the sums don't add up your right about that.  The story I heard was that Rafa has about 20M left to play with but he did'nt want to comit it and then be left with no options in the window.