Lando_Griffin wrote:peewee wrote:Lando_Griffin wrote:I'd love to see you get out of this one.
and now your second pearl of wisdom
"Fickle: 1. Likely to change. 2. Not constant or loyal in affections."
ok you wrote this, you are saying that if someone changes their opinion on something or gives an honest opinion on a performance that makes them fickle, so you are suggesting that a supporter must praise his team, he is never allowed to praise his team for a good performance and then criticise his team for a poor performance as this makes him fickle.
i point out that for you to say someons loyalties have been weakend because they criticise a poor performance is wrong, and make no mistake about it thats what you are doing.
ok i will use myself as a point, i went to more games before you were born that you have even been to after you were born, now by your definition you are saying i am fickle,(and fickle means according to you
Not constant or loyal in affections) my loyalty and affections have never wavered for my home town club,
never but i have every right to criticise them when they perform badly, every right, just as every supporter does.
thats is not being fickle, as my loyalty has never wavered and my affection has never wavered, also my opinion has changed based on fact, two weeks ago we played well, today we didnt, my opinion is an honest one based on performance, not based on my support for the club.
over to you
Once again - you miss the point entirely.
If a person (be the a supporter or otherwise) alters their opinions regularly, then yes, they are fickle. There are no ifs or buts. It is fact that this chain of events is regarded as fickle.
If a supporter were to say, post Derby game, "I think we will win the league. That performance was brilliant", then the same supporter said post Portsmouth;
"That performance was shocking, but I still think we will win the league because we still have a god side" - this is NOT fickle. This is simply stating their beliefs and reflecting on the game.
But had they changed their beliefs after such a short space of time, then this would be fickle. No doubt about it.
I never questioned any one persons loyalties - once again you are using your interpretation of my posts, rather than my actual posts, to win the arguement. What I did was, I quoted a dictionary definition of "fickle". Nothing more. It was a sweeping statement, which you yourself seem to have become embroiled in.
(But the fact is, if people DO have fickle emotions, then their loyalties are questionable, obviously.)
Aha! The old "I've been to more games than you" nugget! I wondered how long it would take a seasoned pro like yourself to resort to such a bullsh*t angle.
Right - you have been to more matches, blah blah blah. OK then - how many have you been to since the season began, hmmm...? Remember, matey, that we can't use examples of seasons gone by - oh no! That's got "no relevance" to this little conundrum, has it, pee?
Hoisted by your own petard AGAIN! You should really be more careful, Peter.
And once again - I have no problem with people saying we were garbage on any given day - it's when they say we'll win the title one week, then we'll never win it the next, and so on and so forth that really gets my goat and deserves the label "fickle".
Your move, Sherlock...
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