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[alanricouk]

Reina- 7

Aurelio - 6
Hyypia -6
Skrtel - 4
Carra -5

Riera- 6
Alonso-7
Gerrard-7
Kuyt- 2

Keane-2
Torres-6

Benayoun -1
Lucas-1
Babel - N/A

[metalhead]

If Benayoun had not given the foul away would the ratings be different ?

nope.

[Leonmc0708]

If Benayoun had not given the foul away would the ratings be different ?

nope.

dope.

[Fowler_E7]

Reina 7 (some good saves and comfortable collecting crosses)

Carragher 6 (solid, lacking going forward)

Hyypia 6 (Solid, but his distribution wasnt to his usual standard)

Skrtel 5 (Poor, sloppy in possesion, and looked uncomfortable against Anacheebe.)

Aurelio 6 (Decent all round Performance)

Kuyt 4 (Asbsolute rubbish, AGAIN!, shocking distribution, no width and a headless chicken)

Alonso 7 (sloppy first half, but improved in the second, with some good offensive passing and tried to up the tempo.)

Gerrard 8 (great goal, and a good alround performance)

Reira 6 (poor first half, but improved, looked quite lively and at least offerd an outlet on the wing)

Torres 6 ( not at his best and should have buried the chane in the first half, looked lively and quite sharp and kept there defenders busy, so glad he's back.

Keane 5 (anonymous, but sufferd from lack of service)

Subs: Benayoun 5 (did nothing, apart from concede sill free kicks, Lucas 5 (was on for about 4 mins and still managed to gice away to needless fouls.) Babel (not on long enough to rate)

[account deleted by request]

I can't believe everyone has marked Gerrard so low, a goal like that and some of the tackles he put in deserves more than a 7 surely?

[Fowler_E7]

I can't believe everyone has marked Gerrard so low, a goal like that and some of the tackles he put in deserves more than a 7 surely?

I gave him a 7 by his own standards, if it was any other player i would have given an 8 probably, but i dont think he was quite at the races today although as usual he was head and shoudlers above most of our other "players" ill edit my post and change him to an 8 to keep ya happy

[account deleted by request]

I can't believe everyone has marked Gerrard so low, a goal like that and some of the tackles he put in deserves more than a 7 surely?

i gave him a 7 by his own standards, if it was any other player i would have given 8 probably, but i dont think he was quite at the races though as usual he was head and shoudlers over most of our other "players" ill edit my post and change him to an 8 to keep ya happy 

Thanks mate ...... I was feeling depressed till you said that 

[bigmick]

My ratings.

Reina-8   I thought the save off Cahill in particular was top class. He also made the gather of Arteta's long range free kick which skipped in front of him look a lot easier than it was. Blameless for the goal.

Carragher-6  Out of position but solid enough. Paying the price for us going into the season with only one right back which we trust. Must be slightly culpable for the goal as one of three centre halves who allowed Cahill a free-header from two yards out around chest high.

Hyppia-6  Thought he did Ok but his distribution was patchy, aside from a superb pass which put Torres in on goal. See above for goal.

Skyrtel-4  Allowed himself to get a bit wound up by Cahill, and was one of the two main culprits for the goal IMHO. Also beaten by the Australians fine leap in the first half, despite starting in pole for that contest.

Aurelio-6 Thought he did Ok and pinged in the odd decent cross. Handled Amechobe pretty well, which as Benayoun later demonstrated isn't all that easy. 

Riera-5 THE main culprit for the goal, why oh why didn't he head it? Other than that did OK with some nice tricks, without once again really imposing himself. Unlucky with a good shot in the first half. Does his square ball to Gerrard 45 yards out count as an assist? It should, it was a good pass and well delivered.

Alonso- 6 Not his best game, caught in posession a couple of times and occasionally muscled out of it. There were though some trademark beautifully struck passes and overall I think he did OK.

Gerrard- 7  Didn't seem to me to be able to really get his head around what he was supposed to be doing. You could tell that we havent played 4-4-2 with Torres and Keane up top for ages it just didn't click with Gerrard coming forward at all. Anybody who is pro-rotation would do well to look at how these particular changes to the team (which I agreed with I might add) radically effected in a negative sense our fluency and cohesion. Gerrard ended up playing much too close to Alonso and we played in horizontal lines with a big gap in between the midfield and strikers.

That said, he got one opportunity to advance and scored. They'll kick themselves and in many ways it was just as bad a goal for them as theirs was for us. They'll have spent all week working on patterns to prevent Gerrard being able to recieve the ball and hit it from outside the area. Principally they'll have worked at getting really close to him, they failed to do it just once and he scored from 35 yards. Not his best hit but good enough, and you could see how as three defenders busted every sinew to get to him they knew the danger. An average (for him) performance from a truly marvellous player.

Kuyt-6  I didn't think he was as bad as some are making out. I wonder sometimes what people expect of him, you know what you're going to get. He rns around a lot, gets in there etc etc. He failed with one through ball to Torres which had a big margin for error, and induced a wry smile when he fell over Riera but all in all it was plain old Dirky Boy. Not a striker though in a million billion years, please don't play him there. Even in an emergency. Even if it's a big one. Ever.

Keane-3  Awful, simply terrible. Unavailable, on his heels, lacking confidence, unaware, invisible. Before people jump up and type "well you were the one banging the drum for him" read the post in the Keane thread.

Torres-7 Considering he had to have a breather each time he did anything, I thought he was excellent. Should probably have scored with his opportunity, but it was only his pace and stength which got him in. Another wonderful player.

Subs-none of em really did much, but I would say I felt a bit for Benayounon the free kick. Just got outmuscled a bit by a good young player.

[liverforever]

reina  9

carra  6
sami  5
skertl  5
aurelio  6

kuyt 5
gerrard  8
alonso  7
reira  7

torres  7
keane  5


Not  a  good  day  at  the  office  lads  we  still  need  to  get  behind  them  and  push  them  to  the  finish  line.If  you  can  remember  back  four  years   ago  this   may  coming.  On  a  night  in  turkey   every  person  that  were  not  liverpool  fans  said   we  were  finished   but every  person  that  was  there  myself  included  sang  you'll  never  walk  alone  through  half  time  i  am  sure  alot  of  ye  guy's  where  there  too it  was  a  night  in my  life  i  will never  forget  and  something  that  can  happen  again  with  this  team.So  lads  let  get  behind  them  again   with  or  ture  support  we   will  relive  that  kind  of  moment  again.

[Toffeehater]

My ratings.

Reina-8   I thought the save off Cahill in particular was top class. He also made the gather of Arteta's long range free kick which skipped in front of him look a lot easier than it was. Blameless for the goal.

Carragher-6  Out of position but solid enough. Paying the price for us going into the season with only one right back which we trust. Must be slightly culpable for the goal as one of three centre halves who allowed Cahill a free-header from two yards out around chest high.

Hyppia-6  Thought he did Ok but his distribution was patchy, aside from a superb pass which put Torres in on goal. See above for goal.

Skyrtel-4  Allowed himself to get a bit wound up by Cahill, and was one of the two main culprits for the goal IMHO. Also beaten by the Australians fine leap in the first half, despite starting in pole for that contest.

Aurelio-6 Thought he did Ok and pinged in the odd decent cross. Handled Amechobe pretty well, which as Benayoun later demonstrated isn't all that easy. 

Riera-5 THE main culprit for the goal, why oh why didn't he head it? Other than that did OK with some nice tricks, without once again really imposing himself. Unlucky with a good shot in the first half. Does his square ball to Gerrard 45 yards out count as an assist? It should, it was a good pass and well delivered.

Alonso- 6 Not his best game, caught in posession a couple of times and occasionally muscled out of it. There were though some trademark beautifully struck passes and overall I think he did OK.

Gerrard- 7  Didn't seem to me to be able to really get his head around what he was supposed to be doing. You could tell that we havent played 4-4-2 with Torres and Keane up top for ages it just didn't click with Gerrard coming forward at all. Anybody who is pro-rotation would do well to look at how these particular changes to the team (which I agreed with I might add) radically effected in a negative sense our fluency and cohesion. Gerrard ended up playing much too close to Alonso and we played in horizontal lines with a big gap in between the midfield and strikers.

That said, he got one opportunity to advance and scored. They'll kick themselves and in many ways it was just as bad a goal for them as theirs was for us. They'll have spent all week working on patterns to prevent Gerrard being able to recieve the ball and hit it from outside the area. Principally they'll have worked at getting really close to him, they failed to do it just once and he scored from 35 yards. Not his best hit but good enough, and you could see how as three defenders busted every sinew to get to him they knew the danger. An average (for him) performance from a truly marvellous player.

Kuyt-6  I didn't think he was as bad as some are making out. I wonder sometimes what people expect of him, you know what you're going to get. He rns around a lot, gets in there etc etc. He failed with one through ball to Torres which had a big margin for error, and induced a wry smile when he fell over Riera but all in all it was plain old Dirky Boy. Not a striker though in a million billion years, please don't play him there. Even in an emergency. Even if it's a big one. Ever.

Keane-3  Awful, simply terrible. Unavailable, on his heels, lacking confidence, unaware, invisible. Before people jump up and type "well you were the one banging the drum for him" read the post in the Keane thread.

Torres-7 Considering he had to have a breather each time he did anything, I thought he was excellent. Should probably have scored with his opportunity, but it was only his pace and stength which got him in. Another wonderful player.

Subs-none of em really did much, but I would say I felt a bit for Benayounon the free kick. Just got outmuscled a bit by a good young player.

Spot on with the ratings , i though skrtel did ok , he has been on a long lay off for quite some time and needs time to get back to his usual standards , he showed some great upper body strength and footwork when he had the ball , got forward quite alot and played a great pass to stevie who forced a saved out of howard

[Toffeehater]

Just makes you wonder without stevie how ordinary will we be ? He's the heartbeat of this team and the reason why we are up there , nothing else . He's a class player and no amount of money can buy another player like , he's the best in his role in the world atm .

[Greavesie]

Just makes you wonder without stevie how ordinary will we be ? He's the heartbeat of this team and the reason why we are up there , nothing else . He's a class player and no amount of money can buy another player like , he's the best in his role in the world atm .

atm? all the time mate, he's priceless 

[DanAn]

People are overating Carra again.

All there dangerous attacks came down the left side and Carra offered little going forward. He is not a fullback, I'd rather Darby I think.

[club_Levis]

My ratings.

Reina-8   I thought the save off Cahill in particular was top class. He also made the gather of Arteta's long range free kick which skipped in front of him look a lot easier than it was. Blameless for the goal.

Carragher-6  Out of position but solid enough. Paying the price for us going into the season with only one right back which we trust. Must be slightly culpable for the goal as one of three centre halves who allowed Cahill a free-header from two yards out around chest high.

Hyppia-6  Thought he did Ok but his distribution was patchy, aside from a superb pass which put Torres in on goal. See above for goal.

Skyrtel-4  Allowed himself to get a bit wound up by Cahill, and was one of the two main culprits for the goal IMHO. Also beaten by the Australians fine leap in the first half, despite starting in pole for that contest.

Aurelio-6 Thought he did Ok and pinged in the odd decent cross. Handled Amechobe pretty well, which as Benayoun later demonstrated isn't all that easy. 

Riera-5 THE main culprit for the goal, why oh why didn't he head it? Other than that did OK with some nice tricks, without once again really imposing himself. Unlucky with a good shot in the first half. Does his square ball to Gerrard 45 yards out count as an assist? It should, it was a good pass and well delivered.

Alonso- 6 Not his best game, caught in posession a couple of times and occasionally muscled out of it. There were though some trademark beautifully struck passes and overall I think he did OK.

Gerrard- 7  Didn't seem to me to be able to really get his head around what he was supposed to be doing. You could tell that we havent played 4-4-2 with Torres and Keane up top for ages it just didn't click with Gerrard coming forward at all. Anybody who is pro-rotation would do well to look at how these particular changes to the team (which I agreed with I might add) radically effected in a negative sense our fluency and cohesion. Gerrard ended up playing much too close to Alonso and we played in horizontal lines with a big gap in between the midfield and strikers.

That said, he got one opportunity to advance and scored. They'll kick themselves and in many ways it was just as bad a goal for them as theirs was for us. They'll have spent all week working on patterns to prevent Gerrard being able to recieve the ball and hit it from outside the area. Principally they'll have worked at getting really close to him, they failed to do it just once and he scored from 35 yards. Not his best hit but good enough, and you could see how as three defenders busted every sinew to get to him they knew the danger. An average (for him) performance from a truly marvellous player.

Kuyt-6  I didn't think he was as bad as some are making out. I wonder sometimes what people expect of him, you know what you're going to get. He rns around a lot, gets in there etc etc. He failed with one through ball to Torres which had a big margin for error, and induced a wry smile when he fell over Riera but all in all it was plain old Dirky Boy. Not a striker though in a million billion years, please don't play him there. Even in an emergency. Even if it's a big one. Ever.

Keane-3  Awful, simply terrible. Unavailable, on his heels, lacking confidence, unaware, invisible. Before people jump up and type "well you were the one banging the drum for him" read the post in the Keane thread.

Torres-7 Considering he had to have a breather each time he did anything, I thought he was excellent. Should probably have scored with his opportunity, but it was only his pace and stength which got him in. Another wonderful player.

Subs-none of em really did much, but I would say I felt a bit for Benayounon the free kick. Just got outmuscled a bit by a good young player.

Spot on Bigmick. A bit generous on Keane who desrves a two.

But I also think the manager threw it away by replacing Torres with the hapless Lucas who only managed to conceed needless free kicks instead of Babel who would have given us pace for counter attack.

RAFA - 4

....Once we scored we sat back and threw the game away.

[Owzat]

If Benayoun had not given the foul away would the ratings be different ?

I know Rafa doesn't have crystal balls, maybe if he did he'd have brought on Mascherano for Keane and we'd have been 1-0 up without Benayoun. It's a double edged sword, players like Benayoun and Babel are expected to work hard, track back but because they aren't decent tacklers they give away 'silly fouls'. A sensible approach would be for them simply to slow the attacker down instead of trying to win the ball when they've maybe 25% chance of doing so.

I think most of the team deserved a 5, Kuyt, Keane and Benayoun 3 or 4, Torres maybe just about a 6/7 and Gerrard maybe a 7/8. Overall it wasn't a good enough team performance for me to give mostly 6s. I don't think our playing one match a week since Boxing Day has helped our fluency, the mancs may moan about fixture overload but other than injuries it has only helped them. Notice Chelsea have picked up a bit, helped I'm sure by their replay midweek or that lift it gave them would not have been there to give them the spirit to pull the stoke game out of the fire.