Liverpool FC Forum

[stmichael]

On thing I will criticise Rafa on is that his personal relationships are fraught with conflict and create extra tension for the club and team. In terms of players, Crouch and Alonso have been poorly treated in my view, both to the possible detriment of the team. He has also had detrimental public arguments with his bosses, coaches and colleagues in The Academy. The fact that his stance in some of these may be justified, doesn't mean it is in his or the club's best interests to play them out in public.

[maypaxvobiscum]

1. Pellegrino playing in the prem enabled sami to rest for the CL so he was nice and fresh

2.Yes would love to pay over the odds for players and win things - one point though where are we going to get this money to pay over the odds ?

3.Please tell me the players he could of got that were better and where cheaper and were realistic viable options for us .

4. how does me mentioning the arsenal game show my lack of football knowledge ?

1) then whats wrong with sorin playing to keep whoever is on the leftback spot fresh?
2) like i said, if we spent wisely there would be more money.
3) i believe there was an entire list the page before.
4) every team have their bad moments. we support a team that lost to barnsley so you should know better then that.

[Bad Bob]

On thing I will criticise Rafa on is that his personal relationships are fraught with conflict and create extra tension for the club and team. In terms of players, Crouch and Alonso have been poorly treated in my view, both to the possible detriment of the team. He has also had detrimental public arguments with his bosses, coaches and colleagues in The Academy. The fact that his stance in some of these may be justified, doesn't mean it is in his or the club's best interests to play them out in public.

Cheers, St. Mike, but Saint's already posted that up for us in another thread. 

[GYBS]

1) then whats wrong with sorin playing to keep whoever is on the leftback spot fresh?
2) like i said, if we spent wisely there would be more money.
3) i believe there was an entire list the page before.
4) every team have their bad moments. we support a team that lost to barnsley so you should know better then that.

1. my goodness here we go again and let me explain it too you - Pelligrino was here for TWO reasons - 1.Coaching 2.To give Sami a rest . We dont need sorin as we have three left backs more than capable at the moment .

2. Rafa has spent wisely but unfortuantly these days its a sellars market so you have to pay more than what people are worth .

3. Not one of your players on that list was a viable or affordable or realistic or high quality option .

4. the point about arsenal was in response to you going on about nasri and im mentioning his start isnt that great cause his team has already lost to a low team . How can you judge players good or bad after 3 games in the prem ?

[bunglemark2]

Uh-oh....it's Groundhog Day again...

[maypaxvobiscum]

1) then whats wrong with sorin playing to keep whoever is on the leftback spot fresh?
2) like i said, if we spent wisely there would be more money.
3) i believe there was an entire list the page before.
4) every team have their bad moments. we support a team that lost to barnsley so you should know better then that.

1. my goodness here we go again and let me explain it too you - Pelligrino was here for TWO reasons - 1.Coaching 2.To give Sami a rest . We dont need sorin as we have three left backs more than capable at the moment .

2. Rafa has spent wisely but unfortuantly these days its a sellars market so you have to pay more than what people are worth .

3. Not one of your players on that list was a viable or affordable or realistic or high quality option .

4. the point about arsenal was in response to you going on about nasri and im mentioning his start isnt that great cause his team has already lost to a low team . How can you judge players good or bad after 3 games in the prem ?

you're talking cr@p mate when you say none of those players are better then what we have...seriously. stop being so pro-lfc. we love the club but tht doesnt mean we gotta have blind faith.


anyway im done to death talking to you. you annoy me no ends. 






now go away.....












but actually, youre a nice guy so we can be friends just no footie talk. 

[GYBS]

Ok then lets see all these players and see which are viable - needed - better than we have - affordable etc .

1) silvestre- Man utd wouldnt sell us Heinze -chances of them selling him us ? nil
2) mellberg- wanted to go abroad for a new challenge
3) sorin -too old
4) kompany- will spend more time on physio than kewell did - always injured
5) coloccini- we have sami,skittles,agger and carra
6) wright phillips- chelsea would never sell him to us for anything less than 15-20 mil
7) mcgeady (from celtic)- decent in scottish league
8) kerlon- totally unproven but can dribble ball on head - FM player
9) bentley- too expensive
10) downing- decent shout but would cost a fair bit
11) nasri- would pretty much only go to arsenal - french
12) deco- was only ever going to join chelsea
13) muntari- instead of who ? masher gerrard and alonso ? no chance
14) modric- same as above - spurs taking big risk with him
15) dos santos- why would barce let him go if he was so good - lightweight beyond belief
16) milito- which one ? defender not needed attacker no better than we have
17) owen- lets not go there
18) martins- blows hot and cold and would cost 15 mil ? no better than keane
19) schawzer (gk from boro i think)- how old now and owuldnt want to come as back up
20) saviola- sits in madrids reserves for a reason - not good enough
21) renato- who
22) pedro mendes- is he better than alonso gerrad or masher

[samurai3000]

true all aint rafas fault he is in a predicament at the momenth with the crappy internationals. Just hope when they are over and the team gels we will hit form. This season for me i think is going to be either a very good one or the worst since the past few years!

[Emerald Red]

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I only blame Rafa for buying them, training them , picking them, the formation they use, and for not getting the subs right. Everything else I blame on Kuyt

[maypaxvobiscum]

I only blame Rafa for buying them, training them , picking them, the formation they use, and for not getting the subs right. Everything else I blame on Kuyt

[Toffeehater]

Ok then lets see all these players and see which are viable - needed - better than we have - affordable etc .

1) silvestre- Man utd wouldnt sell us Heinze -chances of them selling him us ? nil
2) mellberg- wanted to go abroad for a new challenge
3) sorin -too old
4) kompany- will spend more time on physio than kewell did - always injured
5) coloccini- we have sami,skittles,agger and carra
6) wright phillips- chelsea would never sell him to us for anything less than 15-20 mil
7) mcgeady (from celtic)- decent in scottish league
8) kerlon- totally unproven but can dribble ball on head - FM player
9) bentley- too expensive
10) downing- decent shout but would cost a fair bit
11) nasri- would pretty much only go to arsenal - french
12) deco- was only ever going to join chelsea
13) muntari- instead of who ? masher gerrard and alonso ? no chance
14) modric- same as above - spurs taking big risk with him
15) dos santos- why would barce let him go if he was so good - lightweight beyond belief
16) milito- which one ? defender not needed attacker no better than we have
17) owen- lets not go there
18) martins- blows hot and cold and would cost 15 mil ? no better than keane
19) schawzer (gk from boro i think)- how old now and owuldnt want to come as back up
20) saviola- sits in madrids reserves for a reason - not good enough
21) renato- who
22) pedro mendes- is he better than alonso gerrad or masher

Muntari is deffo more consistent than alonso and would have taken him any day of the week . Owen would have been a good signing , deffo better than keane , if he manages to stay injury free we've got 2 top class strikers , for 3 to 5 million for owen as well . 20 million could have been used to buy quaresma and a striker for cover ?

[GYBS]

Muntari is deffo more consistent than alonso and would have taken him any day of the week . Owen would have been a good signing , deffo better than keane , if he manages to stay injury free we've got 2 top class strikers , for 3 to 5 million for owen as well . 20 million could have been used to buy quaresma and a striker for cover ?

But isnt muntari more of the masher and gerrard type as opposed to the more creative xbai type ?

And its a big if with owen about staying fit - plus his wages would be massive as well .

How much did quaesrma go for ? thought him alone was going for more than 20 mil ?

[Toffeehater]

Muntari is deffo more consistent than alonso and would have taken him any day of the week . Owen would have been a good signing , deffo better than keane , if he manages to stay injury free we've got 2 top class strikers , for 3 to 5 million for owen as well . 20 million could have been used to buy quaresma and a striker for cover ?

But isnt muntari more of the masher and gerrard type as opposed to the more creative xbai type ?

And its a big if with owen about staying fit - plus his wages would be massive as well .

How much did quaesrma go for ? thought him alone was going for more than 20 mil ?

Xabi as creative , you're having a laugh mate , maybe on football manager he is with a 20 passing and creativity . Muntari can play both and we were rumored to be signing him in Jan for 8 million . I'd rather we had muntari as now , with stevie injured he could have at least stepped up . Owen will stay fit , he's been getting less injured over the months and he's a class striker , netted both winners for newcastle in their last 2 games , at he'd probably play better with us as newcastle nad have players to provide service for him . We would have gerrard where he formed such a great partnership with him and understanding  . He would be willing to take a pay cut to come back to us , i reckon  . As for quaresma he went for 15 million , i read it on the sky website .

[112-1077774096]

I think we can spend all day talking about players we dont have or how good they would be in our team, but seriously what is the point?

There is no guarantee they would fit in, or indeed actually be played in their best position with this manager. Let's concentrate on what we have and let's concentrate how poorly they are performing, everything else is just fantasy. The fact is we have an expensive squad built by rafa and he still doesnt know how to get us playing football