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Postby JBG » Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:36 am

stu_the_red wrote:Why don't people pick up on the fact that Steven Gerrard gives the ball away a rediculous amount of times trying stupid passes and panicing during games? His ball retention at the best of times is slightly above average but so far this season and against Bolton in the last game i can honestly say i think he's passed to the opposition more times than someone on his own team...

Danny Murphy used to get slated for this every game... why don't people say the same about Gerrard who is far worse in this area of his game?

I agree 100% with Stu and as good as Stevie is, his eagerness to hit first time balls detracts from his game.

I am blue in the face arguing that Stevie is not perfect (although he is very, very good) and for every world class ball he made to the head or toe of Michael Owen last year which earned all the plaudits on Match of the Day, there were at least 20 balls that went no where, or worse, straight to an opposition player.

Gerrard is POTENTIALLY one of the best in the world and he has apsects to his game that few if any other players have, but Benitez has warned him that he must improve his distribution and also to be more crafty with his runs.

If Stevie learned to hold possession and pass the ball short 90% of the time and only hit his laser like long balls a couple of times a game he would become probably the most dominant midfielder in the world.

Danny Murphy split Liverpool fans' opinions, and while he had his faults and weaknesses, Stevie (and for a long while, Riise) was far more guilty of wasting possession than Danny.

If Stevie could incorporate Danny's short passing ability into his game (which shouldn't be hard) then we really would have a titan in midfield.

You're right on the money here, Stu.
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Postby taff » Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:50 am

Gotta agree with Stu as well JBG but I do feel that the key area this season is how the new midfield play.

I also agree with your points in the too cocky thread as this could easily apply to us for being too cocky as we have a untested midfield and this is the area that will determine our season more than anything else

Does everyone remember SG when McAllister played even with his new found status I think he still need others around him
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Postby Fowler_E7 » Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:15 pm

im hoping alonso could be the perfect partner for gerrard, both are sublime passers of the ball. With better players around him who can pass, gerrard hopefully wont feel the need to play all those "killer" balls all the time
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:24 pm

supersub wrote:I totally agree with you stu.

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Postby Leonmc0708 » Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:26 pm

The "hollywood pass" we call it, and your right he tries it too early too much.
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Postby stmichael » Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:50 pm

oh my god, i find myself agreeing with stu again :D

first of all i will say that stevie g is the complete midfield player. i also consider him to be england's best player. however, especially when playing for england it is imperative to keep it simple and retain possession rather than trying to hit 50 yard defence splitting balls all the time. this will come for stevie. people forget he's only 24. he's still 3-4 years off his peak. :)
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Postby Fowler_E7 » Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:56 pm

in another thread you said he was only 2-3 years of his peak, make your mind up :p  :laugh:
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Postby taff » Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:03 pm

???

Yeah St Mike  :cool:
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Postby stmichael » Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:06 pm

Fowler_E7 wrote:in another thread you said he was only 2-3 years of his peak, make your mind up :p  :laugh:

:D

ok,ok. in 3-4 years though, he won't be at lfc. i'm sorry but it's the truth. :(
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Postby taff » Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:14 pm

Yeah Fowler_E7 Mike peaks the truth  :D
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Postby Fowler_E7 » Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:24 pm

:D
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Postby taff » Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:30 pm

Quick Um Bongos for all before Colonel Klink gets here
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Postby 106-1093504160 » Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:05 pm

if your avatar is correct taff, then um bongos on you mate. it would be appropriate to drink it in the jungle covered mountains with u gorillas. wot u say mate?
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Postby JBG » Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:17 pm

RealWorld boys: bugger off back to the RealWorld and no tads and umbongos here!

I mean Stu started a decent thread which actually ended up having me, Leon, Stu and StMick all agreeing with each other!

That never happens.......we almost had world peace and ye RealWorld rebels wrecked it!  :D
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Postby stmichael » Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:18 pm

John Barnes' Granny wrote:RealWorld boys: bugger off back to the RealWorld and no tads and umbongos here!

yeah bugger off :D

p.s. i'll be over in a sec :oops:
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