
Really pleased for the guy now - he's worked his socks off, and I just hope he goes on and gets a hatful before the season's out. He'll always have his critics, but what he's brought to the team has been invaluable.

jonnymac1979 wrote:Good stuff. I actually thought it was an own goal though.
Ace Ventura wrote:jonnymac1979 wrote:Good stuff. I actually thought it was an own goal though.
Really Johnny ? Why ?
I thought it took a bad deflection and the keeper palmed it in.,but it was going to hit the target before it deflected and it was dropping in before the keeper touched it as well.
In my book, an own goal is only so if the deliberate intervention of a defender or keeper has made the ball go in when it would otherwise have missed. Crouch's shot was clearly on target before it struck the defender so no problem there (and in any case, the defender didn't deliberately change the trajectory of the ball) and would obviously have gone in the goal unaided by the keeper.
That the goalkeeper was laughably incompetent is not in question. Just because he flapped at it though doesn't make it an own goal. Incompetence does not make an own goal, if it did then Diego Forlorn scored two less than he thinks he did for Manure because Dudek gifted him at least two against us.
Accidental and inadvertant deflections do not make own-goals. Nor do incompetent goalkeepers. If the ball had looped up and was going over the bar before the keeper fumbled it, then it's an own goal. As it is, it's Crouchino's.
jonnymac1979 wrote:Good stuff. I actually thought it was an own goal though.
greenred wrote:as it was goalbound anyway.
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