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[maypaxvobiscum]

i hope rafa still is interested in him
check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuNkSCE0d9c

When were we interested in him?  He looks good though, but where the hell did he come from?  It seems like this guy just popped up out of nowhere.

rafa was interested in him when he found out that his middle eastern club was wanting to loan him out but then birmingham came in.

and yes destro this is the kid that is rated at 20mil. but since zarate doesnt seem to want to play in middle east, i guess the price could be reduced.

[dawson99]

No matter how much we spend, we wont have the same abilty in our squad next year as the other big clubs. Dosent mean we cant win the league, but untill we have 2 world class, or one world class and one potentially world class or vey good player for each position, we will be laggin behind in terms of quality. We wont be too far behind, just not where we would like to be.

why? no team has 2 world class everywhere, just a strong unit that plays together all the time...

[god_bless_john_houlding]

possible signings (from england) to bolster the squad

GK - Hennersey (wolves)
RB - Richards (man city)
CB - Taylor (newcastle)
CB - Wheater (boro)
LB - Lescott (everton)
RM - Bentley (blackburn)
CM - Barry (villa)
CM - Surman (southampton)
LM - Young (villa)
CF - Agbonglahor (villa)
CF - Ebanks-Blake (wolves)

Now I'm not saying that these should be first on the shortlist, but a lot of them would bolster the squad especially if we have a huge clear out which I'm expecting. Barry and Surman aren't really required as our central midfield is as strong as anything in the world. Lescott may be a little unrealistic but I think he'd be a great signing for us, he has just scored as well against Birmingham.

You do want to win the league, right?   Just checking.

as I've said, if you took the care to read properly..."I'm not saying these should be FIRST on the shortlist" they are merely suggestions for squad players. Who would you rather have coming in at full backs...Finnan and Riise who are probably past their best or Richards and Lescott who 1) have their best ahead of them and 2) probably the next two full backs for England. Bentley or Pennant eh bob? Young or Benayoun? Ebanks-Blake or Voronin?

If I was saying lets sign Matt Oakley and Iain Hume in place of Gerrard and Torres then you may have a point. As I'm simply throwing out names who I know have talent and would bolster the squad with better ability than what we already have, I don't see what you're trying to prove.

But in answer to your ridiculous question, yes I want to win the league, but have we done so with this current side? NO. Have we looked like we could with this current side? NO. Have we came close with this current side? NO. So why not take a gamble on a couple of lads who've proven they can perform at this level. Just because they're not highly paid premadonas doesn't mean they have no ability.

Hennasey---8 consecutive clean sheets...most in lower league history.
Richards---nominated for young player of the year as well as earning a handful of England caps already.
Taylor---captained England U-21s.
Wheater---first full season in the top flight and has been so impressive, Middlesbrough were able to sell Woodgate, a man who's a full international.
Lescot---highest scoring left back in the land this season. Our left backs have a combined total of 1 all season.
Bentley---england's next right winger. already shown he has ability and doesn't look out of place in any side.
Barry---captain of Villa and now keeping Lampard out of the england side.
Surman---young, inexperinced but still making the grade for england U21s.
Young---nominated for young player of the year, been called up a few times for the full england national side.
Agbonglahor---been nominated for young player of the year, also been called up to the england squad on a few occasions.
Ebanks-Blake---twenty goals in the championship, most of them coming for Plymouth along with a few with Wolves, his current side.

They would all add something to our squad, probably more than what we already have. I, as I've said on many occasions, don't have a problem with our starting 11. I think it can match anybody on it's day, it's the squad where we struggle. Arbeloa gets injured, we bring in Finnan who is past it despite me still thinking he's a good player I'd rather have Richards there. Lescott would be a starter for me...he's a much better player both attackingly and defensively than either Aurelio or Riise are. Bentley would be a starter. Ebanks-Blake would be a better option than Voronin. Hennersay would be a better option than Intandje. Central defenders and midfielders aren't really required, but still the four I've put in those positions would be able to add something. Young or Babel is a toss of a coin as they're pretty similar.

So just in case you're still incapable of seeing it, these are NOT 11 players who I would expect Benitez to sign this summer, and are NOT 11 players who I would like to see take to the field for the opening game next season, they ARE however better squad players than what we have, minus the central defenders and midfield where we already strong.

Yes, because the squad needs strengthening...that's obviously been what's keeping us from challenging.  Instead of spending money on a couple of top class players--much like we've done to good effect with Torres this year--let's buy a bunch of middling bench-warmers who are, in most cases, no better and, in some cases, considerably worse than our current squad players.  Congratulations, John, another "hilarious" wind up for our entertainment.

well the reason we're not competing is because 1) the manager hasn't a clue how to beat the top teams 2) the first team is to unconsistant 3) the squad players are nowhere near good enough 4) we have to many players who can't do basic skills.

Bentley, Richards and Lescott would be first teamers for this club, in positions where we don't have much quality. But instead we'll go and buy the Peru right back who is another total flop.

[JC_81]

well the reason we're not competing is because 1) the manager hasn't a clue how to beat the top teams 2) the first team is to unconsistant 3) the squad players are nowhere near good enough 4) we have to many players who can't do basic skills.

Bentley, Richards and Lescott would be first teamers for this club, in positions where we don't have much quality. But instead we'll go and buy the Peru right back who is another total flop.

Unconsistant     Sorry mate couldn't resist.

Richards, Lescott and Bentley are good players, I don't disagree.

Fact is though that they would all be grossly overvalued by their clubs and we just wouldn't get value for money signing any of them and that's assuming they'd be willing to come.

Not only would we get better value shopping abroad, we'd probably get better quality too.  That's why so many clubs do it.  Top quality British players are scarce, especially at clubs outside the top 4.

[Bad Bob]

Bentley, Richards and Lescott would be first teamers for this club, in positions where we don't have much quality. But instead we'll go and buy the Peru right back who is another total flop.

Or maybe the Peruvian right back will be the Fernando Torres of his position?  You don't want to know, though, because it doesn't suit your world view. 

[Well Red]

Reina

Finnan        Carra    Agger      Lescott


Mancini    Gerrard  Mascherano    Babel


              Torres       Huntelaar

[god_bless_john_houlding]

Bentley, Richards and Lescott would be first teamers for this club, in positions where we don't have much quality. But instead we'll go and buy the Peru right back who is another total flop.

Or maybe the Peruvian right back will be the Fernando Torres of his position?  You don't want to know, though, because it doesn't suit your world view. 

I don't know, that's right. I do know however that Micah Richards is one of the best right backs in the league at the moment (when fit) but you and the unopinonated seem to disregard him because he is english.

[JoeTerp]

do you know how much it would cost to get Richards from City. they have a new billionaire owner, they are thinking about buying tons of new players to challenge for the top 4, they are not going to sell their most promising young player who they just signed on an extension (until 2013) without making the other team pay WAAAAY over the odds. Plus he has been injured since february, who knows if he will be the same player or not, its never smart to buy someone coming off such a long term injury without seeing them make a comeback first.

[LFC2007]

Bentley, Richards and Lescott would be first teamers for this club, in positions where we don't have much quality. But instead we'll go and buy the Peru right back who is another total flop.

Or maybe the Peruvian right back will be the Fernando Torres of his position?  You don't want to know, though, because it doesn't suit your world view. 

I don't know, that's right. I do know however that Micah Richards is one of the best right backs in the league at the moment (when fit) but you and the unopinonated seem to disregard him because he is english.

Or perhaps it's because i) He's not a conventional right-back (he's a natural centre-half), ii) He'd cost a f*cking fortune, and iii) We have greater priorities elsewhere.

I refer you to my previous answers [/anticipatorycomment]

[Kukilon]

The problem with most english players is that they would cost a fortune.

Alves will want to move to a bigger club and he would be awesome but he seems like a dick. Many players from Valencia are worth taking a look at since many of them willl be looking for a move next season. Henry would be worth a shot and he also likes Liverpool. I don't like Owen but if we could get him on a "pay as you play" contract I wouldn't mind.

All of them great players and not out of our reach.

[god_bless_john_houlding]

do you know how much it would cost to get Richards from City. they have a new billionaire owner, they are thinking about buying tons of new players to challenge for the top 4, they are not going to sell their most promising young player who they just signed on an extension (until 2013) without making the other team pay WAAAAY over the odds. Plus he has been injured since february, who knows if he will be the same player or not, its never smart to buy someone coming off such a long term injury without seeing them make a comeback first.

I couldn't give a toss how much he costs, alls I read on these pages is...we need money to buy in quality. Quality player and the excuse for not wanting him...he costs to much  unbelievable really is.

Contracts mean all nowadays. If a player wants to leave, he will. Prime example the whole Ashley Cole deal with Chelsea. They were caught tapping him up, yet still got their man.

Injury? All players have injuries. Are we to just let anybody who's been slip away?

And I don't think Richards cares less who City bring in because trophies are much more realistic with Liverpool and every player wants to win trophies. Plus Champions League football is very difficult for any player to turn down.

[liado]

"Many players from Valencia are worth taking a look at since many of them willl be looking for a move next season"

you sure ? How do you know That?

[Kukilon]

"Many players from Valencia are worth taking a look at since many of them willl be looking for a move next season"

you sure ? How do you know That?

Valencia is resting in 16th place just above relegation with class players. Don't you think that players like Villa, Joaquin, Silva etc want to play in europe? We are Poolencia for sake. Who has a better chance than us in getting them to join our team?

Rafa also has good connections with Valencia.

[LFC2007]

Quality player and the excuse for not wanting him...he costs to much  unbelievable really is.

Excuse?

No.

One reason of a number for not prioritising him, is his likely cost.

[JoeTerp]

"Many players from Valencia are worth taking a look at since many of them willl be looking for a move next season"

you sure ? How do you know That?

Valencia is resting in 16th place just above relegation with class players. Don't you think that players like Villa, Joaquin, Silva etc want to play in europe? We are Poolencia for sake. Who has a better chance than us in getting them to join our team?

Rafa also has good connections with Valencia.

don't forget Juan Mata