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[Benny The Noon]

A quick question - all through last season when posters were saying Rafa should go - they stated that many top class managers would jump at the chance to manager such an illustrious club and people would be queuing to manage us - the question is " Where are these managers " ? ?

It's a good point mate, I certainly thought we would be able to go out and get a high profile name to come in but that doesn't seem to be the case. However, that doesn't mean I believe Rafa deserved to stay, I think he'd lost his way big time and I don't believe was destined to turn things around this coming season.

I do wish we had a Van Gaal or a Rijkard coming in though 

When people were callin for rafa to leave many people pointed out that you should only look to sack rafa if he next appointment is a step up, if it's not then you have to give the manager a chance until a step up is available - in all honesty is hodgson a step up in manager ability ? For me it's a massive no .

[Benny The Noon]

Why should people be nice to a person who currently has no link to our club at all ? Some think he appointment is a massive step backwards and are rightly so in their eyes angry about what has happened during this summer . The same people who thought Rafa wasn't good enough and slated him constantly are saying we shouldn't slate a manager whose record is vastly inferior to our previous manager ! And I can't believe someone said Hodgson may fulfill his potential at a big club ?! Potential ?!? He is 63 and has had two jobs at big clubs and failed both times

And the same people who backed Rafa to the hilt and had told others they should not be criticising him are now the guys who are sticking the boot into our manager elect. Is the irony lost on you?

It's gonna be a complete role reversal as far as I can see. Pro-Rafa guys such as yourself will be considerably less patient with Hodgson than those who felt it was time for a change. This place will be exaclty the same as it has been for the last 10 months

But at this moment in time he isn't our manager so people are right to question his appointment and to question his poor track record - if he gets the job i will support him and I will back him and I certainly won't ask for him to be sacked but I will lower my expectations and I won't be surprised when the results aren't what people want but I will be delighted if he does succeed - but what will be classed as success

[tubby]

A quick question - all through last season when posters were saying Rafa should go - they stated that many top class managers would jump at the chance to manager such an illustrious club and people would be queuing to manage us - the question is " Where are these managers " ? ?

Also don't forget all our top players will stay now that Rafa has gone. Yeah right!

Hodgsen is a yes man and I won't support him at all because I don't think he is the right man for the job.

[lakes10]

Some of you on hear mouthing off at a manager who hasn't even been appointed let alone met the squad should be ashamed.

Don't turn it around on the supporters who wanted Rafa out either. The supporters who wanted him out did so because their opinion was that it was time for a change, the subject has been discussed at length. There's no right and wrong answer, no matter how loud you shout.

Have some respect. I hate seeing clubs who self destruct. Booing their own manager, slagging him off, etc. Especially when the abuse is undeserved. By aiming your hatred of the owners at an innocent manager taking on a new role, you contribute to the demise of this club.

If Roy fails, I for one wont be a factor in his demise.

[Ben Patrick]

A quick question - all through last season when posters were saying Rafa should go - they stated that many top class managers would jump at the chance to manager such an illustrious club and people would be queuing to manage us - the question is " Where are these managers " ? ?

Also don't forget all our top players will stay now that Rafa has gone. Yeah right!

Hodgsen is a yes man and I won't support him at all because I don't think he is the right man for the job.

Behave bav.

[Roger Red Hat]

A quick question - all through last season when posters were saying Rafa should go - they stated that many top class managers would jump at the chance to manager such an illustrious club and people would be queuing to manage us - the question is " Where are these managers " ? ?

Also don't forget all our top players will stay now that Rafa has gone. Yeah right!

Hodgsen is a yes man and I won't support him at all because I don't think he is the right man for the job.

why are you so sure he's only a yes man?

He's happy at fulham where he is held in high regard, he doesn't need the job. He can see the problems at Liverpool and he's not stupid. Reckon he'll negotiate his contract and I bet ya a pound to a pinch of sh!t he will NOT be just a yes man.

for fuk's sake

[SouthCoastShankly]

Why should people be nice to a person who currently has no link to our club at all ? Some think he appointment is a massive step backwards and are rightly so in their eyes angry about what has happened during this summer . The same people who thought Rafa wasn't good enough and slated him constantly are saying we shouldn't slate a manager whose record is vastly inferior to our previous manager ! And I can't believe someone said Hodgson may fulfill his potential at a big club ?! Potential ?!? He is 63 and has had two jobs at big clubs and failed both times

You're missing the point by miles.

Rafa was employed by the club and judged based on his performance. Needless to say towards the end the majority wanted rid.

Hodgson cannot be judged on a job he hasn't done yet. You cannot make out like this is the worst managerial appointment in the world, I can think of a lot worse. FFS we tolerated Souness for how long?

The realist can see that the club is in no position to attract top management, therefore we have to work with what we have got. If there is an exodus of players, it wont be Hodgsons fault. There have been rumours of Gerrard, Torres, Mascherano leaving for a long time before Rafa left.

[Benny The Noon]

A quick question - all through last season when posters were saying Rafa should go - they stated that many top class managers would jump at the chance to manager such an illustrious club and people would be queuing to manage us - the question is " Where are these managers " ? ?

Also don't forget all our top players will stay now that Rafa has gone. Yeah right!

Hodgsen is a yes man and I won't support him at all because I don't think he is the right man for the job.

Bav you then become as bad as the people who slated rafa constantly - while he is manager he will need the support of the fans - I agree that he isn't good enough but if and when he arrives we should support him fully as Liverpool fans

[Benny The Noon]

Why should people be nice to a person who currently has no link to our club at all ? Some think he appointment is a massive step backwards and are rightly so in their eyes angry about what has happened during this summer . The same people who thought Rafa wasn't good enough and slated him constantly are saying we shouldn't slate a manager whose record is vastly inferior to our previous manager ! And I can't believe someone said Hodgson may fulfill his potential at a big club ?! Potential ?!? He is 63 and has had two jobs at big clubs and failed both times

You're missing the point by miles.

Rafa was employed by the club and judged based on his performance. Needless to say towards the end the majority wanted rid.

Hodgson cannot be judged on a job he hasn't done yet. You cannot make out like this is the worst managerial appointment in the world, I can think of a lot worse. FFS we tolerated Souness for how long?

The realist can see that the club is in no position to attract top management, therefore we have to work with what we have got. If there is an exodus of players, it wont be Hodgsons fault. There have been rumours of Gerrard, Torres, Mascherano leaving for a long time before Rafa left.

People were spreading rumours about players wanting to leave because of Rafa ( well mainly lakes was ) . People can judge hodgson on his previous managerial roles and are well within their rights to do so and question the appointment to our club because of that track record .

[Igor Zidane]

Some of you on hear mouthing off at a manager who hasn't even been appointed let alone met the squad should be ashamed.

Don't turn it around on the supporters who wanted Rafa out either. The supporters who wanted him out did so because their opinion was that it was time for a change, the subject has been discussed at length. There's no right and wrong answer, no matter how loud you shout.

Have some respect. I hate seeing clubs who self destruct. Booing their own manager, slagging him off, etc. Especially when the abuse is undeserved. By aiming your hatred of the owners at an innocent manager taking on a new role, you contribute to the demise of this club.

If Roy fails, I for one wont be a factor in his demise.

He's not our manager is he ? So now we can't question a mans record even before he's appointed . Do you not think it's a good idea to have a bit of a debate before he gets the job . Or will it be a case of in 6months time while some of us will be supporting ROY ,because he is our manger and that's what we are supposed to do . The rest will again be calling for his head , because there expectations havent been fulfilled . Behave yourself , there's some of us who Know how to support properly and there's some who just stand on the sidelines and critisize when the sh!t hits the fan .

Best to get it of our chests now ,before we set to the job in hand of supporting the manager when he needs us.

[lakes10]

Why should people be nice to a person who currently has no link to our club at all ?

Did Rafa before getting the job? ? ? ???

[Roger Red Hat]

this fella is gonna need the backing of the fans. He'll get fk all from the owners so we could do with him on our side and hopefully during his reign he'll see a change of owners, for the better. In the mean time he could do with getting appointed and getting our backbone fixed at the club.

In 1959 when Shankly took over we finished 10th in Division 2 and to be honest we were average. with in 3 years we'd improved no end and the rest is history. Big things from small acorns. Not comparing the 2 managers at all but give the fella a chance.

[Benny The Noon]

Why should people be nice to a person who currently has no link to our club at all ?

Did Rafa before getting the job? ? ? ???

Rafa had a track record of winning big titles before he arrived so many people look at him as a step forward for us - totally different to hodgson

[tubby]

A quick question - all through last season when posters were saying Rafa should go - they stated that many top class managers would jump at the chance to manager such an illustrious club and people would be queuing to manage us - the question is " Where are these managers " ? ?

Also don't forget all our top players will stay now that Rafa has gone. Yeah right!

Hodgsen is a yes man and I won't support him at all because I don't think he is the right man for the job.

why are you so sure he's only a yes man?

He's happy at fulham where he is held in high regard, he doesn't need the job. He can see the problems at Liverpool and he's not stupid. Reckon he'll negotiate his contract and I bet ya a pound to a pinch of sh!t he will NOT be just a yes man.

for fuk's sake

Come on it's obvious he hasn't been picked for the job because he can take us to the next level. He has been chosen because he isn't going to make a fuss about having no money to spend.

Maybe im being unfair but we are going backwards here and no one seems to care 1 bit. Any decent manager will not touch the job because they know they will be fighting a brick wall.

[lakes10]

Why should people be nice to a person who currently has no link to our club at all ?

Did Rafa before getting the job? ? ? ???

Rafa had a track record of winning big titles before he arrived so many people look at him as a step forward for us - totally different to hodgson

Did Rafa have any link to the club before getting the job??