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[Ciggy]

Thequestion is - how long until we see the Woy out brigade a

I think we've seen that brigade voice their contempt even before the bloke has signed.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say those people will still support him even if they don't rate him - I'm also going to be confident in sayin IMO the first people who want the new manager out will be the same people who were calling for the previous manager to go

We'll see, do you think Hodgeson will be allowed six years?

Lucky if he gets 6 weeks on here.

So people where allowed to criticise the Rafa, but dont critise Roy the Fulham manager, in case he ever becomes the Liverpool manager?

[SeaofRed]

If the new manager can restore faith amongst the players, spend our money wisely and has our performing much better than last season then that will please me, I couldn't care less who it is, Roy, Frank, Kenny or three eyed fish from the Simpsons and I will allow the new manager time and will always offer him my full support. If it is Roy Hodgson then so be it, welcome aboard and let's go from here...

[Molby's bellybutton fluff]

Surely the difference between criticising a manager who was at the club for six seasons as opposed to one who hasn't joined yet, is obvious? I would have thought that everyone deserves a fair crack of the whip, and Rafa certainly had one before he came under sustained criticism.

[tubby]

With respect to Hodsgen. He isn't the calibre of manager this club deserves. But we are skint and are not exactly expecting a title challange next season so we have to aim lower in the managment dept now too. I just pray that this is a temporary thing until the club is sold then we can get a real manager in, not one who plays ugly football and has won all.

[fergieisawhiskeynosedtw@t]

Surely the difference between criticising a manager who was at the club for six seasons as opposed to one who hasn't joined yet, is obvious? I would have thought that everyone deserves a fair crack of the whip, and Rafa certainly had one before he came under sustained criticism.

you would think so???

rafa has gone so just move on for fecks sake it's getting so boring

[tubby]

The appointment of Hodgsen can be compared to a step parent moving in with their parners family. The kids don't really want them around but they know they just have to put up with him. Hopefully Rafa will come back one day when we have decent owners.

[Molby's bellybutton fluff]

Very often though when step-parents move in, the kids stamp their feet and spit their dummies out and say they are going to sqweem and sqweem and sqweem until they are sick, before accepting that the new member of the family is actually OK. Equally, kids often hate their parents for splitting up in the first place, regardless of the circumstances. Very often even when a parent is fully justified in kicking out their partner, the kids just don't get it and scream and shout and stamp anyhow.

Like I say though, they normally come around in the end and in that sense I liek the analogy, I fully agree with it infact.

[tubby]

Time will tell. But do you think his presence is enough to keep the likes of Torres here? Seriously? People who think he will do ok here are deluded.

We got rid of a European cup winning manager, who as it happens walked into another european cup winning team. Meanwhile we get in someone who has managed the shittes.t teams in Europe, has 1 ok season with a handful of shock results and all of a sudden he can take us further than Rafa?   

Ok mate ill play along just to say I told you so.

[Molby's bellybutton fluff]

Well it's all opinions mate at the end of the day, but what surprises me a little bit is how people aren't even prepared to give the new manager a chance. We'll find out soon enough if Hodgson is the manager, and pretty soon after that we'll find out if he is up to it. Surely though in the meantime, we can at least give him our best wishes can't we?. Many people it seems to me are almost hoping he fails so that they can launch a "bring Rafa back" campaign.

On the question of Torres and Gerrard leaving, I think there is every chance they will. To be honest though, I think a much more significant factor in their decision than the identity of any new manager would be the fact that we finished 7th last season and out of the Champions League spots. They are probably looking at a 24 game season in the Europa League and thinking they don'r really fancy it too much, and in many respects who can blame them. hat's not the fault of any new manager, he's not responsible for what went on previously surely?

[shabelle50]

The appointment of Hodgsen can be compared to a step parent moving in with their parners family. The kids don't really want them around but they know they just have to put up with him. Hopefully Rafa will come back one day when we have decent owners.

You're joking. DIC don't want to buy Liverpool and they wanted to get rid of Rafa had they bought the club in 07/08 anyway.

For sure Rafa was denied money in the last twelve months and only had a net spend of £20 million in 2007 and £15 million in 2008 but what about the wasted millions on the others who were bought?

Rafa won't come back to Anfield why do you think Houllier's ruled himself out in the last few weeks? The future will be a different future - one without the Americans and Rafa.

[tubby]

The appointment of Hodgsen can be compared to a step parent moving in with their parners family. The kids don't really want them around but they know they just have to put up with him. Hopefully Rafa will come back one day when we have decent owners.

You're joking. DIC don't want to buy Liverpool and they wanted to get rid of Rafa had they bought the club in 07/08 anyway.

For sure Rafa was denied money in the last twelve months and only had a net spend of £20 million in 2007 and £15 million in 2008 but what about the wasted millions on the others who were bought?

Rafa won't come back to Anfield why do you think Houllier's ruled himself out in the last few weeks? The future will be a different future - one without the Americans and Rafa.

When DIC wanted us they wanted Mourinho. He was at least an established manager who the players could respect.

As for Rafa's spendng his net spend was always between 20- 30 Mil per season.

[tubby]

Well it's all opinions mate at the end of the day, but what surprises me a little bit is how people aren't even prepared to give the new manager a chance. We'll find out soon enough if Hodgson is the manager, and pretty soon after that we'll find out if he is up to it. Surely though in the meantime, we can at least give him our best wishes can't we?. Many people it seems to me are almost hoping he fails so that they can launch a "bring Rafa back" campaign.

On the question of Torres and Gerrard leaving, I think there is every chance they will. To be honest though, I think a much more significant factor in their decision than the identity of any new manager would be the fact that we finished 7th last season and out of the Champions League spots. They are probably looking at a 24 game season in the Europa League and thinking they don'r really fancy it too much, and in many respects who can blame them. hat's not the fault of any new manager, he's not responsible for what went on previously surely?

Of course ill give him a chance, everyone will but it's the circumstances in which this has happened and I expect many to stay bitter for quite some time.

I will anyway.

[Molby's bellybutton fluff]

But how can you say you'll give him a chance when you've already made your mind up that he's a useless manager and "just wait and see", he'll make a mess of things? I don't get that, I really don't.

Whoever comes in, the first challenge is to try and better the 7th place of last season. This applies even if we do end up selling the players who want Champions League football. Obviously it'll be significantly harder for the new manager than it ought really to have been for the last one if he loses all our best players, but the target must remain the same. If he doesn't manage it, and has to cope without Torres, Gerrard, Masherano etc etc and doesn't get anywhere near all of the money from their sales to spend, then obviously that has to be taken into account when judging how he's got on.

Giving the man a chance though surely means just that, reserve judgement until he's had a go at it.

[tubby]

Yeah your right, im just venting and I DO think he isn't good enough. By give him a chance I guess for me that means ill hold my tongue atleast until xmas if it hasn't gone belly up by then. Sorry mate but we have made a big mistake and for me there is no getting away from that. But at the same time I wont spend the whole season saying I told you so or this and that unlike some last season. btw that wasn't a dig at you

[metalhead]

We are so doomed.. I don't feel optimistic at all