New Manager - Who would you have? (merged thread)

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Postby Molby's bellybutton fluff » Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:54 pm

As far as Hodgson is concerned, I heard something yesterday (I know, but the information is 100% genuine, although it may be cr@p, read on anyhow). A fella who I know very well works at Wembley Stadium doing CP work and security. I had a beer with him on Monday and we were talking about the Liverpool managers job (he's actually a Fulham fan). He is always full of stories about the various players, managers and officials who come up to the FA for disciplinaries, meetings etc (Fergies actually a really nice guy, John Terry and Ashley Cole are unbelieveably arrogant and all that stuff). Anyway this guys job is to meet them at reception and excort them through the various sections and segments and generally look after them.


To cut a long story short I saw him again yesterday, and Sammy Lee had been up at the FA for some reason. It turns out this lad looks after him, gets into a function where they didn't even know who he was etc (this lad had to tell them he was the ex-England asst etc) and gets hi in. Anyhow, he asked Sammy about the managers job, and Sammy said he knew who it was likely to be but couldn't say. What he could say was that the appintee would be a BIG surprise to everyone, and the press were currently wide of the mark.

Now I am 100% certain that this conversation took place, but obviously there is the "why on earth would Sammy Lee tell some security guard at Wembley" angle. So obviously there is the distinct chance that Sammy was on a wind up, but then again who's to say? All observers seem to think it's definately Hodgson anyway, so perhaps it's just a red herring who knows.The lad said Sammy's a top man anyway FWIW.

On that subject, I think Hodgson would do a good job, but that's obviously just me.
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Postby shabelle50 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:05 pm

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7_Kewell wrote:Rafa wasn't a bad manager, but he no where near world class manager people on here make him out to be.

Hes better than Hodgson though. So it begs the question as to why he is replaceing Rafa.

The Liverpool board are also aware that there are misgivings among supporters about Hodgson’s credentials for managing one of the world’s biggest clubs.

Even the board are aware of most of the fans feeling but they will give him the job anyway  ???

I would doubt that Hodgson could win the title unless he does something quite extraordinary with the squad but in all honesty he'd be more likely to than Rafa.

I'm not sure the club have much option at the moment. Reappointing Dalglish is risky given his absence so long from the premier league, there are few available alternatives including Rijkaard and Hiddink and the club appears not to be convinced by Pellegrini.

It's up to Hodgson to show he can do the job if he is to be the next boss.
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Postby Molby's bellybutton fluff » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:11 pm

It's almost certainly true that Hodgson couldn't win the title with the group of players he's likely to be left, but surely that's not the criteria for judging whether or not he's any good. he couldn't win the title with Fulham either, but he did a decent job there.
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Postby Fauxy » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:25 pm

Im just praying these reports linking us with Rijkaard are true..

I think he could do wonders for us.
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Postby zarababe » Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:35 pm

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Judge wrote:From Rawk

Just come across this on a rumour site. I know .. I know... but it does seem well written and thought provoking. Could there be a masterplan??
Any views??
I've been given some insight regarding the future employment of key personnel at Liverpool Football club and why the situation appears to be in a state of flux, despite a clear direction actually having been resolved a few weeks ago. Please absorb the following and use your brains to digest the following, calculate its merits and don't let any existing passionate bias for OR against Liverpool dictate your reaction – instead just think about it with a clear head
1. 8 members of the background team staff have been released to work elsewhere and replacements have been interviewed with offers pending.
2. A radical change in policy for youth team structure and development is being resolved currently with an exchange system being negotiated with a specific overseas country (haven't been told which one).
3. The ownership of the club has been resolved in terms of an offer that HAS been accepted on behalf of the existing shareholders, the deal has yet to be formally concluded in terms of exchange of money for stock – so no announcement will be publicly made until the deal is officially sealed and maximum positive publicity can be achieved.
4. Tom Hicks had been trying to influence the buyer to work with him in future projects in the buyer's native homeland and surrounding countries – totally unrelated field to that of football but he has been trying to use Liverpool as a bargaining chip to get himself into the alternative commercial environment in an alternative niche.
5. Tom Hicks holds no existing interest in building the new stadium for LFC – any suggestion otherwise is purely speculative. The original design is to be redrawn by the new bidder and a resubmission to the Council will be made by March 2011. No additional onsite work will become effective until then.
6. The manager identified by the new owner is one that some of the KEY 1st team personnel already know – non–disclosure clauses have been distributed to all personnel that know his identity and they all have been contacted to explain the sensitivity of the situation and will not be drawn on commenting in the press, to family members or members of the public!
7. The manager elect has carefully deflected attention from his position and it will NOT be Kenny Dalglish or Roy Hodgson. The debate is a convenient public distraction being played out to divert attention from the identity of the soon to be new owner and his chosen number one.
8. The club is gearing up for an announcement in July and not before and will not do so until the World Cup is concluded. It is imperative to both the commercial value of the announcement and in particular the selected manager – that the team he is currently involved with is not distracted by press questions or club business. Success in the World Cup under this manager will greatly increase the attraction of new players to LFC and significantly increase the commercial revenue stream. Carefully engineered distractions are already in place to handle identities of both buyer and manager until mid July.
9. At least 16 first team members are certain to be leaving. All player sales NET income generated will be made available to the new team along with an initial cash injection (advance allocation of commercial revenue) to build a squad now for the next 4–5 years under the new manager.
10. The 1st team will be permanently reduced from their present numbers to allow an increase in wage levels for the main squad, allowing a competitive level of salary for high gross revenue earning players to be maintained at a sustainable level. This will assist in attracting foreign players to the UK, despite the higher tax band and wages offered elsewhere, without dramatically increasing the outgoings of the club.
It has to be stressed that all of the negotiations to purchase the club and the appointment of the target manager has been done through representatives of all parties and you will NOT have seen or will see LFC board members at a hotel/bank/airport/stadia etc with identifiable individuals!! It is too sensitive a time; the process has not been and will continue NOT to be played out in any public areas.
Please note that only the select few within the club know the intimate details of the owners elect and the manager elect – this does NOT include ground staff, reserve team, youth team players or most of the first team. They have NOT been informed of any of the developments other than all will be announced mid July.

So. to summarise:
Significant non–player staff changes – Yes
New owners agreed – Yes
New Owners installed – Less than 40 days away.
New Manager Identified – Yes
New Manager installed – Only after the World Cup – actively engaged
Cash for transfers – Yes
Amount for transfers – I don't know – no point in guessing!!
Sustainable Business Model Identified – Yes
Stadium plans – To be revised and resubmitted to council next year.
Players informed – Select few only!
Media informed – OBVIOUSLY NOT UNTIL MID JULY!

I really hope the editor can find space for this post as it may help the disillusioned (both for and against LFC!) to engage in some sensible rumours or preferably facts rather than outlandished guesswork and rude criticism (this is directed at those that only come on here only to say "You have no money so it won't happen!" as that position is soon going to change so save your keyboard from unnecessary work!).

Michael Easterbrook.

(some may have it read it already - sorry if reposted)

Gosh.. please let this be true.. someone PM'd me that a deal with new owners was done !

I believe this..

Feels like a CIA conspiracy deal !
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Postby shabelle50 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:22 pm

Fauxy wrote:Im just praying these reports linking us with Rijkaard are true..

I think he could do wonders for us.

I agree but I can't see it happening at the moment maybe in a year or two with new owners. Hasn't Pelligrini been reported as saying that he's told friends he'll be managing a PL club but refused to say which one?

I wouldn't be surprised with whoever is appointed.
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Postby lakes10 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:56 pm

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lakes10 wrote:
Judge wrote:From Rawk

8. The club is gearing up for an announcement in July and not before and will not do so until the World Cup is concluded. It is imperative to both the commercial value of the announcement and in particular the selected manager – that the team he is currently involved with is not distracted by press questions or club business. Success in the World Cup under this manager will greatly increase the attraction of new players to LFC and significantly increase the commercial revenue stream. Carefully engineered distractions are already in place to handle identities of both buyer and manager until mid July.




Well , reading this it's obviously Sven !!   :D

eeek  :(
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Postby LFC2007 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:03 pm

Well, the Guardian reported yesterday that a deal to appoint Hodgson was imminent now he's back from SA, while the bookies have him at 2/9 to be our next boss, which I guess would be more or less equivalent to the odds of Man U beating Wigan at home in a league game. I suppose if it turns out to be true then it will cast serious doubt on that ITK article above that says Kenny or Hodgson "will NOT" be our next manager, as well as on that bloke who says his mate got word off Sammy Lee that the press were wide of the mark. Whatever happens, somebody is talking b0llocks.
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Postby SeaofRed » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:06 pm

I wonder if Torres and Gerrard have been consulted about Roy possibly/likely being our next manager?
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Postby zarababe » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:09 pm

LFC2007 wrote:Well, the Guardian reported yesterday that a deal to appoint Hodgson was imminent now he's back from SA, while the bookies have him at 2/9 to be our next boss, which I guess would be more or less equivalent to the odds of Man U beating Wigan at home in a league game. I suppose if it turns out to be true then it will cast serious doubt on that ITK article above that says Kenny or Hodgson "will NOT" be our next manager, as well as on that bloke who says his mate got word off Sammy Lee that the press were wide of the mark. Whatever happens, somebody is talking b0llocks.

If as being suggested the club is almost sold, the new manager is in waiting and the press is being deliberately 'mis-led'... lets just have hope, enjoy the WC  :)
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:28 pm

zarababe wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:Well, the Guardian reported yesterday that a deal to appoint Hodgson was imminent now he's back from SA, while the bookies have him at 2/9 to be our next boss, which I guess would be more or less equivalent to the odds of Man U beating Wigan at home in a league game. I suppose if it turns out to be true then it will cast serious doubt on that ITK article above that says Kenny or Hodgson "will NOT" be our next manager, as well as on that bloke who says his mate got word off Sammy Lee that the press were wide of the mark. Whatever happens, somebody is talking b0llocks.

If as being suggested the club is almost sold, the new manager is in waiting and the press is being deliberately 'mis-led'... lets just have hope, enjoy the WC  :)

Unfortunalty Zara Amanda stavely was on BBC radio 4 yesterday and said that any interest from the middle east into premier league clubs has all but died a death they are no longer interested and thats a big blow for us considering she worked with the Abu Dhabi group and barclays  :(

LFC 2007 where does it say Roys back in SA and why did he come back to the UK for 24 hours? thats if he did like?
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Postby NANNY RED » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:35 pm

Such a fecking shame that Kenny has made it known he wants the job and Christie and the Chelsea fan have overlooked him and the fact that the majority of the fans want him there ,

You surly have to ask yourself why they dont want Kenny, and will Kenny now walk as he has been overlooked after putting his name forward, Is that what they want , Noone at the club fighting in our corner , Only people who will do as there told

Why is Hodgson prepared to come here knowing that Kenny has put his name forward the fans want him and the total hatred that most of us have got with our owners , Why i just cant understand why he want to come here also knowing that the majority of fans dont want him here ,

Im sorry but if he gets the job then its nothing short of a disgrace and how low we have now set our sights, Yeh he is most prob a lovely nice man, but FFS Roy lad stay with Fulham,
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Postby shabelle50 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:42 pm

lakes10 wrote:
Redangel wrote:
lakes10 wrote:
Judge wrote:From Rawk

8. The club is gearing up for an announcement in July and not before and will not do so until the World Cup is concluded. It is imperative to both the commercial value of the announcement and in particular the selected manager – that the team he is currently involved with is not distracted by press questions or club business. Success in the World Cup under this manager will greatly increase the attraction of new players to LFC and significantly increase the commercial revenue stream. Carefully engineered distractions are already in place to handle identities of both buyer and manager until mid July.




Well , reading this it's obviously Sven !!   :D

eeek  :(

Take a look at this site the entries on 25.6.2010--

http://www.football-rumours.com/index.htm
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Postby Scottbot » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:48 pm

In and Out wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
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Thequestion is - how long until we see the Woy out brigade a


I think we've seen that brigade voice their contempt even before the bloke has signed. :laugh:

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say those people will still support him even if they don't rate him - I'm also going to be confident in sayin IMO the first people who want the new manager out will be the same people who were calling for the previous manager to go

We'll see, do you think Hodgeson will be allowed six years?

Lucky if he gets 6 weeks on here.
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Postby NANNY RED » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:57 pm

An another thing what the feck is that Christie even still doing here never mind being in charge of selecting our new manager , He should of gone weeks ago , Said it himself he was only here to find investment , it was gonna be sorted by April he said , and if it wasnt he will have failed in his job,

Well guess what Christie lad itS THE END of  June and you owe us two months wages because you FAILED ,

A banker in charge of selecting our new manager its just fuc.king laughable.
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