Liverpool FC Forum

[Fauxy]

Rijkard imo is a great option for us at the the moment, better than dalglish and certainly better than hodgson

[Benny The Noon]

And reports are we wont pay enough money to Galatasary to be able to speak to Riijkaard

[Penguins]

Thequestion is - how long until we see the Woy out brigade a

I think we've seen that brigade voice their contempt even before the bloke has signed.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say those people will still support him even if they don't rate him - I'm also going to be confident in sayin IMO the first people who want the new manager out will be the same people who were calling for the previous manager to go

We'll see, do you think Hodgeson will be allowed six years?

Going by the patience some supporters have I'd say he will get 1 year if we end up 7th.

We had one poor season under Rafa and he was gone. You think he would had been here 6 seasons if not for the CL, the FA cup, the 2nd place?
One season not qualifying us for the CL and adios. See no reason why Hodgson would/should be spared if we end up 6th-8th.

[moop1970]

If they are haggling about compensation already - does that mean that they are afraid that he will definately come to us if asked???   Galatasaray - that is!!!

[Fauxy]

If they are haggling about compensation already - does that mean that they are afraid that he will definately come to us if asked???   Galatasaray - that is!!!

Nobody is haggling about compensation right now, in fact the compensation that we would owe them if we signed Rijkaard would be very low so it would be easy to get by.

All Galatasaray are doing right now is not allowing us to talk to Rijkaard because they know that we can afford to pay the compensation for him. They are worried he may want to join us.

[7_Kewell]

I just wish we had Rafa here, it's just not the same without him.

the staff in the Melwood canteen probably say the same thing

[lakes10]

From Rawk

Just come across this on a rumour site. I know .. I know... but it does seem well written and thought provoking. Could there be a masterplan??
Any views??
I've been given some insight regarding the future employment of key personnel at Liverpool Football club and why the situation appears to be in a state of flux, despite a clear direction actually having been resolved a few weeks ago. Please absorb the following and use your brains to digest the following, calculate its merits and don't let any existing passionate bias for OR against Liverpool dictate your reaction – instead just think about it with a clear head
1. 8 members of the background team staff have been released to work elsewhere and replacements have been interviewed with offers pending.
2. A radical change in policy for youth team structure and development is being resolved currently with an exchange system being negotiated with a specific overseas country (haven't been told which one).
3. The ownership of the club has been resolved in terms of an offer that HAS been accepted on behalf of the existing shareholders, the deal has yet to be formally concluded in terms of exchange of money for stock – so no announcement will be publicly made until the deal is officially sealed and maximum positive publicity can be achieved.
4. Tom Hicks had been trying to influence the buyer to work with him in future projects in the buyer's native homeland and surrounding countries – totally unrelated field to that of football but he has been trying to use Liverpool as a bargaining chip to get himself into the alternative commercial environment in an alternative niche.
5. Tom Hicks holds no existing interest in building the new stadium for LFC – any suggestion otherwise is purely speculative. The original design is to be redrawn by the new bidder and a resubmission to the Council will be made by March 2011. No additional onsite work will become effective until then.
6. The manager identified by the new owner is one that some of the KEY 1st team personnel already know – non–disclosure clauses have been distributed to all personnel that know his identity and they all have been contacted to explain the sensitivity of the situation and will not be drawn on commenting in the press, to family members or members of the public!
7. The manager elect has carefully deflected attention from his position and it will NOT be Kenny Dalglish or Roy Hodgson. The debate is a convenient public distraction being played out to divert attention from the identity of the soon to be new owner and his chosen number one.
8. The club is gearing up for an announcement in July and not before and will not do so until the World Cup is concluded. It is imperative to both the commercial value of the announcement and in particular the selected manager – that the team he is currently involved with is not distracted by press questions or club business. Success in the World Cup under this manager will greatly increase the attraction of new players to LFC and significantly increase the commercial revenue stream. Carefully engineered distractions are already in place to handle identities of both buyer and manager until mid July.
9. At least 16 first team members are certain to be leaving. All player sales NET income generated will be made available to the new team along with an initial cash injection (advance allocation of commercial revenue) to build a squad now for the next 4–5 years under the new manager.
10. The 1st team will be permanently reduced from their present numbers to allow an increase in wage levels for the main squad, allowing a competitive level of salary for high gross revenue earning players to be maintained at a sustainable level. This will assist in attracting foreign players to the UK, despite the higher tax band and wages offered elsewhere, without dramatically increasing the outgoings of the club.
It has to be stressed that all of the negotiations to purchase the club and the appointment of the target manager has been done through representatives of all parties and you will NOT have seen or will see LFC board members at a hotel/bank/airport/stadia etc with identifiable individuals!! It is too sensitive a time; the process has not been and will continue NOT to be played out in any public areas.
Please note that only the select few within the club know the intimate details of the owners elect and the manager elect – this does NOT include ground staff, reserve team, youth team players or most of the first team. They have NOT been informed of any of the developments other than all will be announced mid July.

So. to summarise:
Significant non–player staff changes – Yes
New owners agreed – Yes
New Owners installed – Less than 40 days away.
New Manager Identified – Yes
New Manager installed – Only after the World Cup – actively engaged
Cash for transfers – Yes
Amount for transfers – I don't know – no point in guessing!!
Sustainable Business Model Identified – Yes
Stadium plans – To be revised and resubmitted to council next year.
Players informed – Select few only!
Media informed – OBVIOUSLY NOT UNTIL MID JULY!

I really hope the editor can find space for this post as it may help the disillusioned (both for and against LFC!) to engage in some sensible rumours or preferably facts rather than outlandished guesswork and rude criticism (this is directed at those that only come on here only to say "You have no money so it won't happen!" as that position is soon going to change so save your keyboard from unnecessary work!).

Michael Easterbrook.

(some may have it read it already - sorry if reposted)

seems to fit in with most stuff.

as far as i understood G&H set themselves a july deadline for the sale of the club RBS have also known this.

Hicks is a greedy git so i am not shocked that he is using liverpool as a way to get into other stuff with any new owners but hi health is so bad i am not sure his family will let him take on anymore work.

All liverpool players met someone from the club during their time at the world cup (thanks to JT for letting this out)

yes we all knew that the plans for the ground would of had to be redone due to the time it has taken and are now out of date due to price range and other stuff.

[lakes10]

I posted to Bav this morning that Hodgeson has had lots of meetings with the club over the last few days,

Now I know your just acting the goat, how can he be having meetings with the board when he didnt get back from SA until late last night. 

i did not say he was meeting them over her, he had meetinf with the club in SA, members of our club have been out their from day one.

[lakes10]

fake alert

yep heres the real deal , easy to spot

ok lakes where are the fake bits

please list ??

Standard Chartered logo should be half gray, its easy to see more if you go to the jjb website and use the zoom on their. the type font is also wrong (bold), the liverpool badge has no green in the real one.

[parchpea]

After weeks of speculation the only name that has been ever present and has headed the betting market is Hodgson so I would assume its very likely he will be our manager next season whether people like it or not. Rijkaard would be terrific if we could do something there but everything still seems to point to Roy unless the picture changes at the last moment. It would be nice to have it resolved so we can all stop talking about it really and so at least something is set in stone before the campaign gets underway and the new manager can sort his squad ready for pre season training.

[SeaofRed]

I just wish we had Rafa here, it's just not the same without him.

the staff in the Melwood canteen probably say the same thing

Silence, Vindaloo titties. 

[Redangel]

From Rawk

8. The club is gearing up for an announcement in July and not before and will not do so until the World Cup is concluded. It is imperative to both the commercial value of the announcement and in particular the selected manager – that the team he is currently involved with is not distracted by press questions or club business. Success in the World Cup under this manager will greatly increase the attraction of new players to LFC and significantly increase the commercial revenue stream. Carefully engineered distractions are already in place to handle identities of both buyer and manager until mid July.

Well , reading this it's obviously Sven !!   

[Ola Mr Benitez]

We had one poor season under Rafa and he was gone. You think he would had been here 6 seasons if not for the CL, the FA cup, the 2nd place?
One season not qualifying us for the CL and adios. See no reason why Hodgson would/should be spared if we end up 6th-8th.

Why do people keep saying we only had one BAD season with Rafa?

I'm old school and watched us under Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish.. but I honestly beleive we had one GOOD season under Rafa.

I understand he was under immense pressure with the 2 dicks who own us, but he made too many mistakes that where totally under his control.

1.  Playing Lucas when he could have moved Gerrard back into CM with Mascha.  Best centrlal mid pairing in the Premiership

2.  Buying a crocked player like Aquialani for £20 mill and then when fit doesnt play him

3.  Thinking we can play in the same formation as we did in our best league campaign even though we lost Alonso.

4.  Continuing to play Ngog up front on his own when Torres was injured when he clearly was not good enough.  This despite we  have Kuyt and Babel who both should have been given a chance to prove they could do a better job

5.  Failing to have a plan b.  Same every week no matter who we played.. at home or away[B] letting every manager know how to set up to play us.

These things where all in his power to change and he didnt..  I know he did some great things.. legendary even when he won the Champions league and went out drinking with the fans but there where thigs he could have done which I beleive nearly every other manager (incl Woy) would have done which would have meant our season would have turned out better.

I like, no love, Rafa the man.. he obviously loved Liverpool (the people, the city and the club) but he made too many mistakes and did not learn from them.

I dont know who the next manager will be.  I just hope we get someone who will play the players in their best postions, make them beleive we can win anyone, set the team out to play to the best of our abilities without over worrying about what they can do to us, and for me a top 4 finish would be a success.. and thats the first time I have ever said that, but in these times lets rebuild slowly and get things right.

We have enough players in our squad to put together a great team next year.. As long as we dont lose to many (Torres/Gerrard  please dont go)

            Reina
Kelly  Carra  Agger  Insua
Johnson Gerrard Aquilani/Lucas  Reira/Maxi
             Kuyt/Babel  Torres

you get the idea!

YNWA

[7_Kewell]

We had one poor season under Rafa and he was gone. You think he would had been here 6 seasons if not for the CL, the FA cup, the 2nd place?
One season not qualifying us for the CL and adios. See no reason why Hodgson would/should be spared if we end up 6th-8th.

Why do people keep saying we only had one BAD season with Rafa?

I'm old school and watched us under Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish.. but I honestly beleive we had one GOOD season under Rafa.

U+I understand he was under immense pressure with the 2 dicks who own us, but he made too many mistakes that where totally under his control.

1.  Playing Lucas when he could have moved Gerrard back into CM with Mascha.  Best centrlal mid pairing in the Premiership

2.  Buying a crocked player like Aquialani for £20 mill and then when fit doesnt play him

3.  Thinking we can play in the same formation as we did in our best league campaign even though we lost Alonso.

4.  Continuing to play Ngog up front on his own when Torres was injured when he clearly was not good enough.  This despite we  have Kuyt and Babel who both should have been given a chance to prove they could do a better job

5.  Failing to have a plan b.  Same every week no matter who we played.. at home or away[B] letting every manager know how to set up to play us.

These things where all in his power to change and he didnt..  I know he did some great things.. legendary even when he won the Champions league and went out drinking with the fans but there where thigs he could have done which I beleive nearly every other manager (incl Woy) would have done which would have meant our season would have turned out better.

I like, no love, Rafa the man.. he obviously loved Liverpool (the people, the city and the club) but he made too many mistakes and did not learn from them.

I dont know who the next manager will be.  I just hope we get someone who will play the players in their best postions, make them beleive we can win anyone, set the team out to play to the best of our abilities without over worrying about what they can do to us, and for me a top 4 finish would be a success.. and thats the first time I have ever said that, but in these times lets rebuild slowly and get things right.

We have enough players in our squad to put together a great team next year.. As long as we dont lose to many (Torres/Gerrard  please dont go)

            Reina
Kelly  Carra  Agger  Insua
Johnson Gerrard Aquilani/Lucas  Reira/Maxi
             Kuyt/Babel  Torres

you get the idea!

YNWA

6.

Great post. Rafa wasn't a bad manager, but he no where near world class manager people on here make him out to be.

[Ciggy]

Rafa wasn't a bad manager, but he no where near world class manager people on here make him out to be.

Hes better than Hodgson though. So it begs the question as to why he is replaceing Rafa.

The Liverpool board are also aware that there are misgivings among supporters about Hodgson’s credentials for managing one of the world’s biggest clubs.

Even the board are aware of most of the fans feeling but they will give him the job anyway