Liverpool FC Forum

[Rush Job]

Am I the only one that actually think that a new stadium is the only way to go? We need to maximize the turnover with the new rules and one of the ways to do that is to maximize ticket sales and you can't do that at Anfield because it's simple to small and to hard to make all of the fancy pance boxes in.

I`m not sure mate. Is it even possible to get anfield to 60-65k capacity?

[Reg]

We need a brand spanking new 70,000 seater in red, the sooner the better.

[Zidane]

Yeah I don't see how renovating anfield could make that big of an impact, but they could have other ideas for building revenue.  It doesn't require a huge increase in capacity if they think there is revenue to be made elsewhere.  We make profit as it is we just needed our debt cleared so if they can boost it by a few mil a season and increase revenue in other areas I could see a new stadium not being a necessity.  It all depends though guess we will find out before the year is over.

[Reg]

Here we go... wake up call.....

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Thrift key as new Liverpool owners prioritize driving up revenue to fund battle revival    October 18, 2010

LIVERPOOL, England (AP) — John Henry has cautioned that his Boston Red Sox ownership group will not throw cash at reviving fallen English giant Liverpool.

Henry met with supporters and local lawmakers Monday and afterwards confirmed that New England Sports Ventures would first seek to repair the ties between the club and the community that were damaged while Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr., the previous owners, were in control.

"We met with supporter groups. We didn't give any assurances — we're here to listen and to learn from them, and we learned a lot today," Henry said. "I think the biggest issue was the sense of disenfranchisement and their sense of not being a part of their own club, so that's what we discussed. This was a big first step today."

The urgency of the task facing Henry was underlined Sunday — two days after New England Sports Ventures completed its $476-million takeover of Liverpool — when the team lost 2-0 at neighbor Everton. The result kept the Reds marooned in the Premier League's relegation zone on just six points from eight games.

But Henry has warned that NESV will be frugal owners, quipping: "I don't have 'Sheikh' in front of my name."

"When we spend a dollar, it has to be wisely," the American tycoon said. "We cannot afford player contracts that do not make long-term sense. We have to be smart, bold, aggressive."

So if manager Roy Hodgson wants funds to strengthen a squad that is currently heading toward the second tier, the commercial department will have to get busy.

"When we looked at Liverpool, the first thing that struck was there are opportunities here to really build a winner," Henry said. "The revenue potentials around the world — it is a global football club — and especially with the financial fair play rules, it is really going to be revenue that drives how good your club can be in the future. That is one thing that we think we are good at."

Red Sox fans across the Atlantic can testify to that.

"When we arrived at the Red Sox (in 2002), the New York Yankees were a juggernaut and it wasn't that much of rivalry," Henry said. "We turned it into a rivalry where we have gone toe-to-toe with the Yankees even though they have got a much higher revenue.

"They keep going up but we have gone up faster. We have got to the point where if you look at our wins and losses against the Yankees over the last nine years, we are almost dead even. ... If you think Boston is somehow on a par economically with New York, that's simply not true."

Copyright 2010 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

[SunderlandUSA]

I'm a Red Sox fan and a Sunderland fan and wanted to stop in and offer my take.  I won't mention any Turner/Kuyt/idiot ref goals, plus it seems like this topic has mostly been covered so I'll be quick :

Do not underestimate the monumental accomplishments that they've made with the Boston Red Sox.  They were quite simply the longest running franchise to have not won a championship - 86 years to be exact since the Sox had won it.  John Henry's group took over the team and impact was immediate. Within just a few short years the Red Sox became extremely competitive and won their championship twice. 

These are very smart guys and they don't get into something like this without a plan, we're I a Liverpool fan I'd rest a lot easier.  I'll be taking a special interest in Liverpool going forward.  I wish everyone great success and know that you shall have it in John Henry's capable hands. 

Cheers!

[NANNY RED]

No ordinary Joe: meet the Red Sox man set to run Liverpool

'Baseball is my business, Liverpool FC is my passion,' says Joe Januszewski, a fan since tragedy of Hillsborough

By Matt Fleming

Tuesday, 19 October 2010

Trawl through the who's who of Boston Red Sox employees on their website and Joe Januszewski is only the 130th name you will find, an unremarkable senior vice-president of corporate sales at Fenway Park. America's Reggie Perrin would be doing him a disservice, but he is hardly the right-hand man of John Henry, the Red Sox – and now Liverpool's – owner. That may soon change though, since Januszewski is the man most likely to be put in charge of the day-to-day running, and possible overhaul, of the struggling Premier League club.

To Liverpool's fans, Januszewski may sound like another Yank with no connection to the club, no passion, and very little understanding of its history – a worrying echo of those other Americans they are so happy to see the back of, Tom Hicks and George Gillett. But that could not be further from the truth – Januszewski has been a fan for 20 years.

"People walk into my office at Fenway Park and, OK, I work for the Boston Red Sox but there is another club that wears red which has a pretty solid representation on my wall," he said. "There's souvenirs, ticket stubs, all the rest. People look at me and say, 'What's the deal?' I tell them baseball is my business but Liverpool FC is my passion.

"My first connection with LFC was rooted in tragedy," he said . "I remember the horrible footage of Hillsborough in April 1989 on the television. I remember my mother crying. I don't have to tell you about the horrific imagery. As a child who grew up loving football and having a dad who loved The Beatles and played them on those reel-to-reel things. There was a Liverpool emotional connection, as thin as that may seem.

Januszewski's comment that his "knowledge you could put in a thimble [compared] to your average Merseysider," may well be tinged with modesty – he first became a football fan in the 1970s when his family lived in West Germany and he played throughout his youth. And he also knew enough of the worsening situation at Anfield to set the wheels in motion for New England Sports Ventures' takeover.

"I sent an email to John and [the Red Sox CEO] Larry Lucchino a couple of months ago and told them to monitor the ownership situation," he said. "It was as a fan really. But also as a businessman who follows sport. I told him my bags are always packed for Liverpool, I know a great couple of places if you need a tour guide."

Henry, who has admitted he detected a hint of "Save my club!" desperation in Januszewski's recommendation, made sure his resident fan accompanied him and his true right-hand man, Thomas Werner, the Boston Red Sox chairman, on NESV's mission to Merseyside last week. This increased the likelihood that he may well offer Januszewski his dream job.

But then he will have to face the nightmare unfolding on the pitch. Joe Cole, the £90,000-a-week midfielder who has been far from a success since his summer arrival, lent his support to the cause of his struggling manager, Roy Hodgson yesterday in the wake of the weekend 2-0 derby defeat to Everton that left Liverpool in the bottom three.

"We are right behind the manager. We all believe in the team and in the club," Cole said. "We have just got to stick together. We are doing a lot of things right but we have got to cut out what we're doing wrong.

"It's disappointing to lose such a big game but in these situations, the worst thing you can do is start pointing fingers at each other. We have got to look at ourselves. We have got to do better."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport....14.html

I dont want Purslow , thats all im sayin on him

[tubby]

A bigger stadium is important. The difference in match day revenue alone is staggaring but I think more important right now is the first team. We need to get the team playing good football. It's no use building a 70k seater stadium if we are playing football week in week out.

First things first, get a new manager in and let's rebuild this team so it can once again compete with the best.

[bunglemark2]

A bigger stadium is important. The difference in match day revenue alone is staggaring but I think more important right now is the first team. We need to get the team playing good football. It's no use building a 70k seater stadium if we are playing football week in week out.

First things first, get a new manager in and let's rebuild this team so it can once again compete with the best.

Valid points there Bav, well said...

[redsoxfan]

Its a bigger task here than the Red Sox. May be mistaken but dont they have some kind of salary or transfer cap plus they recruit lots of lads through the college system. Not like this league where money, and big money talks. Geographically its a smaller game, not worldwide, and theres no relegation or promotion. In football your competing for players and power all over the globe not in a tinpot league of bat and ball where all the players are from your own country. Baseball is nothing compared to football, on any level surely.They are going from the mini leagues into the big time now and I hope they recognise and have a plan to deal with it because if they think its just a case of doing a Red Sox then where done for.

Let me correct you:   

"dont they have some kind of salary or transfer cap" - There is no salary cap in MLB. There is a luxury tax, a threshold at which the richer-spending clubs must pay a "tax'' that is then shared by the poorer clubs. The Red Sox are always among the top 5 spending clubs out of 30. They are usually #2.

"they recruit lots of lads through the college system" - Correct, there is a draft every year of high school and college talent. The worst teams get first choice each round of the draft, but despite this the Red Sox are considered to have one of the top 5 or so farm systems in MLB.

"Not like this league where money, and big money talks" - Big money talks in baseball. It is why in the last 14 years, 10 of the 14 World Series have been won by the big-spending NY, Boston, LA and Philadelphia clubs.

"Geographically its a smaller game, not worldwide, and theres no relegation or promotion. In football your competing for players and power all over the globe not in a tinpot league of bat and ball where all the players are from your own country." - Baseball is a strong #2 to the NFL in the US. It is the biggest sport in the Caribbean and Japan, and very popular in Canada and Korea and Taiwan. And the "tinpot league" (this is where I smack you upside your insulting, dull head  ) consists of 30% foreign players.

"They are going from the mini leagues into the big time now" - Forbes has the Red Sox valued at $870M and Liverpool at $822M.

I'd keep teaching you but it might take me 10 years to have any breakthroughs.

(no disrespect intended toward any Liverpool fan with a brain )

[bunglemark2]

Its a bigger task here than the Red Sox. May be mistaken but dont they have some kind of salary or transfer cap plus they recruit lots of lads through the college system. Not like this league where money, and big money talks. Geographically its a smaller game, not worldwide, and theres no relegation or promotion. In football your competing for players and power all over the globe not in a tinpot league of bat and ball where all the players are from your own country. Baseball is nothing compared to football, on any level surely.They are going from the mini leagues into the big time now and I hope they recognise and have a plan to deal with it because if they think its just a case of doing a Red Sox then where done for.

Let me correct you:   

"dont they have some kind of salary or transfer cap" - There is no salary cap in MLB. There is a luxury tax, a threshold at which the richer-spending clubs must pay a "tax'' that is then shared by the poorer clubs. The Red Sox are always among the top 5 spending clubs out of 30. They are usually #2.

"they recruit lots of lads through the college system" - Correct, there is a draft every year of high school and college talent. The worst teams get first choice each round of the draft, but despite this the Red Sox are considered to have one of the top 5 or so farm systems in MLB.

"Not like this league where money, and big money talks" - Big money talks in baseball. It is why in the last 14 years, 10 of the 14 World Series have been won by the big-spending NY, Boston, LA and Philadelphia clubs.

"Geographically its a smaller game, not worldwide, and theres no relegation or promotion. In football your competing for players and power all over the globe not in a tinpot league of bat and ball where all the players are from your own country." - Baseball is a strong #2 to the NFL in the US. It is the biggest sport in the Caribbean and Japan, and very popular in Canada and Korea and Taiwan. And the "tinpot league" (this is where I smack you upside your insulting, dull head  ) consists of 30% foreign players.

"They are going from the mini leagues into the big time now" - Forbes has the Red Sox valued at $870M and Liverpool at $822M.

I'd keep teaching you but it might take me 10 years to have any breakthroughs.

(no disrespect intended toward any Liverpool fan with a brain )

I like your style mate....a belated and very warm hearted Welcome !!

[redsoxfan]

I like your style mate....a belated and very warm hearted Welcome !!

I regret popping off like that. I should have replied more calmly. My apologies to anyone offended.

This is a wonderful forum and I'm humbled to be here with all of my new LFC friends.   

[burjennio]

Its a bigger task here than the Red Sox. May be mistaken but dont they have some kind of salary or transfer cap plus they recruit lots of lads through the college system. Not like this league where money, and big money talks. Geographically its a smaller game, not worldwide, and theres no relegation or promotion. In football your competing for players and power all over the globe not in a tinpot league of bat and ball where all the players are from your own country. Baseball is nothing compared to football, on any level surely.They are going from the mini leagues into the big time now and I hope they recognise and have a plan to deal with it because if they think its just a case of doing a Red Sox then where done for.

Let me correct you:   

"dont they have some kind of salary or transfer cap" - There is no salary cap in MLB. There is a luxury tax, a threshold at which the richer-spending clubs must pay a "tax'' that is then shared by the poorer clubs. The Red Sox are always among the top 5 spending clubs out of 30. They are usually #2.

"they recruit lots of lads through the college system" - Correct, there is a draft every year of high school and college talent. The worst teams get first choice each round of the draft, but despite this the Red Sox are considered to have one of the top 5 or so farm systems in MLB.

"Not like this league where money, and big money talks" - Big money talks in baseball. It is why in the last 14 years, 10 of the 14 World Series have been won by the big-spending NY, Boston, LA and Philadelphia clubs.

"Geographically its a smaller game, not worldwide, and theres no relegation or promotion. In football your competing for players and power all over the globe not in a tinpot league of bat and ball where all the players are from your own country." - Baseball is a strong #2 to the NFL in the US. It is the biggest sport in the Caribbean and Japan, and very popular in Canada and Korea and Taiwan. And the "tinpot league" (this is where I smack you upside your insulting, dull head  ) consists of 30% foreign players.

"They are going from the mini leagues into the big time now" - Forbes has the Red Sox valued at $870M and Liverpool at $822M.

I'd keep teaching you but it might take me 10 years to have any breakthroughs.

(no disrespect intended toward any Liverpool fan with a brain )

 

lol parchpea Pwned 

[redsoxfan]

Here's an article and video from today's Boston Globe about the latest improvements to Fenway Park. They've improved the park every year since they took over the Red Sox. Speaking is Larry Lucchino, club President, who has been in charge of this project. He also was in charge of building the new Camden Yards park while employed with Baltimore years ago. This should give you a bit more confidence about how meticulous and dedicated they are to improving the fan experience - I'd expect the same care in Liverpool. There's a small mention of Liverpool at 2:38 of the video too. 
http://www.boston.com/sports....akeover

[tommycockles]

Here's an article and video from today's Boston Globe about the latest improvements to Fenway Park. They've improved the park every year since they took over the Red Sox. Speaking is Larry Lucchino, club President, who has been in charge of this project. He also was in charge of building the new Camden Yards park while employed with Baltimore years ago. This should give you a bit more confidence about how meticulous and dedicated they are to improving the fan experience - I'd expect the same care in Liverpool. There's a small mention of Liverpool at 2:38 of the video too. 
http://www.boston.com/sports....akeover

Thanks for that, let's hope they actually do something unlike H+G. I like that they haven't come out on the PR offensive like H+G did, although it would be nice to hear something soon on their plans/immediate actions for Liverpool.

[mgabby]

I'd keep teaching you but it might take me 10 years to have any breakthroughs.

I have a question. Will Ellsbury be back in shape next year for a full season? Do you think V-tek should be the backup catcher? Does big papi worth the money, or do we look for a new DH? Can injured Youk move to 3rd, and make room for Adrian Gonzales on 1st? Will Dice-K ever win 18 again? and do you think the Marlins will take back Backett and Lowel for HenRam?

Thanks.