by bigmick » Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:47 pm
Look I hear what people say about negativity, and I've no doubt that they consider me one of, if not the main culprit. People find it depressing, fair enough, I hear what you say, and I don't mean that in a sarcastic sense either.
So what are the choices. I can't speak for everyone else on here, but I only what post what I believe to be the truth. I think about football quite a lot, I even like to kid myself that I've got a smidge of a clue, and I like coming on here because I get to find out what's happening with Liverpool on the other side of the World, and I enjoy the opportunity to talk with Liverpool supporters of all definitions. I don't come on here to depress people, nor do I come on here to have rows and in the main I manage to avoid doing the latter by all accounts better than I'm doing the former.
Baz says that "every thread" is the same, well if it is (and I don't think it is) it shouldn't be. I've made my feelings on the issue of the manager clear, but I deliberately try and make a point of not getting a debate on him in every thread. Equally, if I've not got anything positive to contribute to a discussion I tend to try and stay out of it. My post in the Real madrid thread was that I think we'll win both games 1-0. It was about 10 words, not one of them negative. It's not a competition I'm massively fired up about this season, but there seemed no point in damping down other peoples enthusiasm. Equally, I've never begrudged other people's right to hold an opinion which is radically different to my own, good luck to em, what the feck do I know anyway.
We've also had the spectre recently of GYBS's "others" poll, which I thought was turning into a great thread, closed. It was a great thread because it was funny, there was a bit of p1ss taking in there, but it was light hearted. I like GYBS, he says he "forgot" about putting some managers in, well in that case he deserves a bit of ribbing. There was no malice in it, I even didn't mention Mourinho's name while making it glaringly obvious I was talking about him, then started a thread about him in a section which nobody ever goes to, then made out I was doing it purely to satisfy GYBS's curiosity "I'll see what I can dig up for you mate". Can people not see that was a bit of fun and not take it too seriously? Am I going to ask for threads to be closed down each times someone points out my attempted stats are b0ll0cks?
So the choice for anyone who wants to debate the team, the squad, progress etc etc is what? I think it should be to do so in the appropriate threads, and to leave all others alone. I'm at the point realistically where I can't really post anywhere other than in the "my indictment" thread, and in "the squad" thread, the latter of which I started. Anywhere else, and you get jumped on or people complain the boards are full of negativity.
It does feel sometimes that you can't win. People say "how the feck can you be negative when we're top of the league" and you explain that these draws we've started to have, will cost us in the end. You're called allsorts of muppets, knee jerkers, negativos, plastics and the rest, then Man U overtake us and the draws did cost us. "But we're top of the league FFS" changes to "but we're 2nd in the league FFS". "how the feck can you be negative when we're 2nd in the league" you're asked. So you explain by looking at the squad as objectively as you possibly can that after five years of the Rafalution, things haven't really changed as much as they first appear. Once again, you come under fire.
I do hear people though when they say it's depressing, and I'll make a pledge here and now which I'm happy for people to quote back to me. I'll only post in threads from now on which I think it's appropriate to be negative in. There's no point me even going into positive threads and putting stuff up, because people take it the wrong way and we're off anyway. I think the sight of the monkey with the gun sets people off these days rightly or wrongly, so enough. I ask only one thing in return, that on the occasions we do win matches there isn't post after post asking where all the "fecking doom and gloomers are now, spouting their bile". I try and be the first on each and evry occasion we play well, particularly if I've slagged off the selection beforehand, precisely to give people the opportunity to tell me to st!ck it up my erse. I'll do that no more, because enough is enough.
No martyr's speech this, just a sad one. Depression works in both directions, and logging on this fine Sunday morning and realising quite how p!ssed off people that I like are becoming with my and similar peoples ramblings has put me on a downer.
No more, I'll only post in negative threads from now on, and sparingly at that I promise.
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bigmick on Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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